Disgusting behaviour from Blades fans tonight

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Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere. I did look & I couldn't find it. When Bogle scored at Reading, a smoke bomb was thrown from our fans into our disabled fans section. Causing some chaos & distress. I was on the same row, but across the aisle from where it landed. Story doing the rounds here....

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With all the modern surveillance technology at the grounds, it should be relatively simple to supply a picture of the culprit for the general population to identify.
 

Its definitely getting worse.....I hope the prat who recently threw a seat down from the back at Oakwell onto fellow blades feels really satisfied by his manly actions.
 
Hi Stegosaurus here

Think it's time fans were banned from the stadium for a few games. Teach them a lesson.

They'll soon stop misbehaving and throwing chairs and smoke grenades if the FA said right, "Blades are playing behind closed doors for 3 matches"
 
Hi Stegosaurus here

Think it's time fans were banned from the stadium for a few games. Teach them a lesson.

They'll soon stop misbehaving and throwing chairs and smoke grenades if the FA said right, "Blades are playing behind closed doors for 3 matches"

Isn't that punishing the many for the actions of the few?
 
Hi Stegosaurus here

Think it's time fans were banned from the stadium for a few games. Teach them a lesson.

They'll soon stop misbehaving and throwing chairs and smoke grenades if the FA said right, "Blades are playing behind closed doors for 3 matches"
From attendance figure in S6, I think they are trialling the idea.
 
"The reaction when we score a goal is getting beyond a joke"

It's a minority who cause problems but when a small minority are crowded together it's easy for them to appear anonymous. It's gone way beyond boisterous behaviour much of the time now. Hopefully CCTV can be put to good use. Did they not announce that all seats at Bramall Lane were covered by CCTV a few months ago? That doesn't help at away games of course.
 
Isn't that punishing the many for the actions of the few?
Hi Stegosaurus here

Yes, but it then encourages people behaving to give those misbehaving a clip round the ear to stop them.

Kinda like when at school, the whole class got detention for one person throwing a paper ball and the teacher would say "and you can all thank Julian while I nip to the staff room" and leave you to get a drubbing.
 
Hi Stegosaurus here

Yes, but it then encourages people behaving to give those misbehaving a clip round the ear to stop them.

Kinda like when at school, the whole class got detention for one person throwing a paper ball and the teacher would say "and you can all thank Julian while I nip to the staff room" and leave you to get a drubbing.

I think people who are that stupid to do such a thing are too stupid to learn any lessons.

CCTV is there, ban the ***** for life
 
Hi Stegosaurus here

Yes, but it then encourages people behaving to give those misbehaving a clip round the ear to stop them.

Kinda like when at school, the whole class got detention for one person throwing a paper ball and the teacher would say "and you can all thank Julian while I nip to the staff room" and leave you to get a drubbing.
What message does that send to the person hit by the smoke bomb ? Youre going to miss the next game for not moving your wheelchair quick enough and getting your head in the way of a smoke bomb. If it happens again you miss 2 games.
 
Of course. There are perfectly good & safe arrangements for fans to use pyro. Used extensively outside the UK. But, somehow football in England has decided to move past that. I was at a game in Italy on the Sunday before the Tuesday game at Reading. A flare & a smoke bomb used without real risk of endangering anyone. The way we allocate seats in England & criminalise the flarer means he/she has to get rid of the fucking thing, indiscriminately, asap. There could be a grown up approach to all this, but as I say, we've moved past that.
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Hi Stegosaurus here

Think it's time fans were banned from the stadium for a few games. Teach them a lesson.

They'll soon stop misbehaving and throwing chairs and smoke grenades if the FA said right, "Blades are playing behind closed doors for 3 matches"
So I assume you'd agree that a similar punishment should be handed out to your boys for fighting among themselves in the North stand last week?

Having said that, from what I hear about your crowds, it's very much like playing behind closed doors down at Hillsborough these days.
 
Of course. There are perfectly good & safe arrangements for fans to use pyro. Used extensively outside the UK. But, somehow football in England has decided to move past that. I was at a game in Italy on the Sunday before the Tuesday game at Reading. A flare & a smoke bomb used without real risk of endangering anyone. The way we allocate seats in England & criminalise the flarer means he/she has to get rid of the fucking thing, indiscriminately, asap. There could be a grown up approach to all this, but as I say, we've moved past that.
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Looks ideal if you suffer from Asthma
 
Looks ideal if you suffer from Asthma
In the scenario in the photo, everyone knows exactly which part of the ground the pyro is going to be let off. There's no doubt. If you're in the Curva, the pyro is going up, deffo. Asthma sufferers have plenty of options to avoid. Even if they get in the Curva by mistake. They can just move away, safe in the knowledge the pyro is going to stay put & not be fucking launched at them. There is a grown up way of approaching this, which we in England have decided to move past.
 
Hi Stegosaurus here

Yes, but it then encourages people behaving to give those misbehaving a clip round the ear to stop them.

Kinda like when at school, the whole class got detention for one person throwing a paper ball and the teacher would say "and you can all thank Julian while I nip to the staff room" and leave you to get a drubbing.
I trust Julian and you have made up now?

A dynamic combo of CCTV and eagle eyed stewards to hone in on the guilty is my preferred option.
 
Hi Stegosaurus here

Yes, but it then encourages people behaving to give those misbehaving a clip round the ear to stop them.

Kinda like when at school, the whole class got detention for one person throwing a paper ball and the teacher would say "and you can all thank Julian while I nip to the staff room" and leave you to get a drubbing.

c Tom Browns Schooldays…….
 

In the scenario in the photo, everyone knows exactly which part of the ground the pyro is going to be let off. There's no doubt. If you're in the Curva, the pyro is going up, deffo. Asthma sufferers have plenty of options to avoid. Even if they get in the Curva by mistake. They can just move away, safe in the knowledge the pyro is going to stay put & not be fucking launched at them. There is a grown up way of approaching this, which we in England have decided to move past.
How exactly do you move away in an all seater stadium which is full?
 
Look. I'm not advocating. I'm making the simple point that the problem with pyro in English grounds is the indiscriminate unpredictability. You don't know where & when it's going to be let off, nor by who & you can expect it to be launched in the air.

The success of pyro outside England is based on the sheer predictability. You generally know where & when & who - and you don't expect it to be thrown. It is therefore easier to be prepared, alert & aware. And it is consequently safer.

I first stood on the Shoreham in the 60s. Around early November, "bangers" were thrown around indiscriminately. It's the indiscriminate & unpredictable use of pyro that creates the problem.
 
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It's the indiscriminate & unpredictable use of pyro that creates the problem.

And it’s the presence of idiots in our support that produces indiscriminate and unpredictable use of pyro.

I agree, a considered approach to pyro in UK grounds would be preferable to prohibition. And flares add considerably to ‘atmosphere’.

But having stood adjacent to the chuckers in the past, I’d respectfully suggest that they’d be incapable of an ‘adult approach’ to anything more than tying their own shoelaces.
 
My take on it is if a knobhead throws one and you clock who he is , twat him .job done


Not sure what's going through their minds when they sling them .Was going to say brains but thought better of it .
 
My 2p-worth...there is absolutely ZERO justification in the modern game for behaviour like has been seen and reported on in recent weeks. It's not just our "fans"...clubs across the country report similar things.

It's one thing to get a bit "boisterous" at a game, home or away. It's quite another thing to attack your so-called "fellow blades" and actively ruin the match experience for fans that just want to go and watch a game of football.

I appreciate and accept that there are a number of posters on here who were willingly involved in "shenanigans" back in the dark days of the 70's/80's. The rights and wrongs of that are not up for debate on this thread. It was a different era, with different standards and different behaviour.

Comparing that era to the current one in an attempt to justify innocent fans being punched, drenched in cheap, warm lager, threatened etc is wrong.

Personally, and based on my own experience, I think there is a huge problem with cocaine in football at the moment. It's rife, it's everywhere, and you've only got to go for a piss at a football ground currently to see queues of "lads" who obviously aren't desperate for a shit, waiting to use the cubicles.

I'm no angel in my past. I've done my fair share of powder (though never at football strangely) and I can see the appeal. But problems arise when people off their tits suddenly think they are the "best" fans, and that their aggressive, scummy behaviour is somehow justified as "this is what happens at football." No, it isn't. It shouldn't be. People should be able to support their team, home and away, without fear of getting smacked for sitting in the seats they paid for.

Honestly, I have fuck all clue how to sort it all out. But something needs to change. When I was about 12, I begged my dad to let us move from the family stand to the Kop "for the atmosphere." That same atmosphere is now, in my opinion, polluted to a degree for the reasons I mentioned above. For some weird reason, it seems like vociferously supporting your team isn't enough any more. For a large element, you're only having the full "match experience" if you're coked off your nut, picking fights with fellow fans.

It's sad.
 
My take on it is if a knobhead throws one and you clock who he is , twat him .job done


Not sure what's going through their minds when they sling them .Was going to say brains but thought better of it .
What about for those of us that are adults?
 
My 2p-worth...there is absolutely ZERO justification in the modern game for behaviour like has been seen and reported on in recent weeks. It's not just our "fans"...clubs across the country report similar things.

It's one thing to get a bit "boisterous" at a game, home or away. It's quite another thing to attack your so-called "fellow blades" and actively ruin the match experience for fans that just want to go and watch a game of football.

I appreciate and accept that there are a number of posters on here who were willingly involved in "shenanigans" back in the dark days of the 70's/80's. The rights and wrongs of that are not up for debate on this thread. It was a different era, with different standards and different behaviour.

Comparing that era to the current one in an attempt to justify innocent fans being punched, drenched in cheap, warm lager, threatened etc is wrong.

Personally, and based on my own experience, I think there is a huge problem with cocaine in football at the moment. It's rife, it's everywhere, and you've only got to go for a piss at a football ground currently to see queues of "lads" who obviously aren't desperate for a shit, waiting to use the cubicles.

I'm no angel in my past. I've done my fair share of powder (though never at football strangely) and I can see the appeal. But problems arise when people off their tits suddenly think they are the "best" fans, and that their aggressive, scummy behaviour is somehow justified as "this is what happens at football." No, it isn't. It shouldn't be. People should be able to support their team, home and away, without fear of getting smacked for sitting in the seats they paid for.

Honestly, I have fuck all clue how to sort it all out. But something needs to change. When I was about 12, I begged my dad to let us move from the family stand to the Kop "for the atmosphere." That same atmosphere is now, in my opinion, polluted to a degree for the reasons I mentioned above. For some weird reason, it seems like vociferously supporting your team isn't enough any more. For a large element, you're only having the full "match experience" if you're coked off your nut, picking fights with fellow fans.

It's sad.
The inconvenient truth for quite a few people on here is that the behaviour of football fans in 2021 has been handed down from those generations in the 70/80’s.
 
Hi Stegosaurus here

I personally wouldnt attend a game today because of all the uncouth behaviour
 

I've only done a handful of away games this season but it really is like playing the d1ckhead lottery when buying away tickets, at least at home you can avoid them. Sometimes it's a cracking day out surrounded by great people, but more recently I seem to be dealt the d1ckhead hand. Had the pleasure of sitting next to a vile bunch of coked-up scallies at the front yesterday who spent the whole game trying to arrange a scrap with another vile bunch of coked up scallies near the back. Middle-aged ones in the group just as bad.

None of them really watched the game, can't keep still, always in the way, zero regard for any other fans near them. Is there more of them these days or are they just more d1ckhead-ish? It really is a small minority but they don't half ruin your day out. No point asking them to move as they're looking for any excuse to get aggressive at any one.

Not a chance any of these creatures have the ability to read or write, so appreciate I'm talking about no one on here, but needed to vent!
 

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