What a refreshing change to have a honest forward looking owner.

[petcharlie]

Wilder is history, I don't really care what he has to say tbh.

Well you might not most of us do.Thats why we are on here so why are you?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

What makes you think Wilder passed on him ?how do you come to that conclusion ?Wilder Stated he wanted Watkins ,Lingard,Cash,Robinson.Davis.he got none of them. Now why is that?Was it the wages thing? or was it a way to get at Wilder so he walks?Was it because Prince got now't is skint?Was it because Wilder failed with is second and third choice signings in the past?To really find the answers we need to know the other side of the argument i think and not to jump to conclusions.Wilder did try to sign some of them before the rest were showing any interest in them .In fact it looked like Villa were waiting for Wilder to show any interest in players before they trump the blades in any deal.

I didn't say he had, I said maybe based on what was said, so I didn't form a conclusion.
The answer to the rest of your list is easy, we don't pay enough to secure them and they all went to clubs who pay considerably more than we do.

You really are disappearing down the rabbit hole if you think the board deliberately bombed the transfer window with players who would sign for us with less money.
Why would they do that? Losing Premier League status costs a hell of a lot more than a few million to pay Wilder off, plus if we had another season Wilder would have had interest from others and he would have gone anyway. What you are proposed is totally illogical.

Final point, Wilder very much put forward the fact that we have what we think is a fair price and we won't go above that. That was his position and he was quite open about it. I think that brinkmanship pulled the rug out from under us when suddenly other PL clubs were looking to the Championship for a change, rather than only looking abroad. They didn't bat an eye lid at paying over the odds on fees or wages, but that wasn't something neither Wilder nor the club wanted to do.

 

[Maidenhead]

Well petcharlie I get the distinct impression that you're Wilder's pet.

Of course I'd be interested to hear Wilder's opinions but whatever he says is unlikely to change my mind and accept that he was constructively dismissed.

IF it took Chris three attempts to get his resignation accepted then he must have been pretty desperate to leave (notice the BIG IF).

On the two occasions in my working life that I found my position untenable my resignation was accepted without hesitation and I got nowhere near a pay off from either, neither did I even consider that I had been constructively dismissed, I just didn't like the way the business was moving and on both occasions I had issues with my senior line management. Sound familiar?

It's the way of the world.

 

[knowsnowt]

Well you might not most of us do.Thats why we are on here so why are you?

"Most do". I'm seeing the opposite with most people wishing just to get on with thiibgs realising Chris's days are over, and going on available evidence that's a positive thing.

As for why I'm here. Boredom really.. And an arthritic hand that's affected my daily wank quota.

 

[diode_blade]

If only that cargo ship in the Suez could turn a fast as some as our fans.

Our midfield and defence has about the same turning speed at the mo.....

 

[Eza Blade]

Kevin McCabe always struck me as a slimy used car salesman. Always talking himself up. Always looking to take advantage. I never trusted anything he said.

100% had the look of a guy you wouldn’t want talking to your missus.........but then again so do I

 

[JOEYDEE]

So do I mate . I do hope some day we get one. I see two players Wilder asked the board to get turned out for England last night . I think it is called constructive dismissal and that nice prince got now't is doing the same to Wilders right hand man also.He is telling the truth when he says he did not want to sack him mainly because of the hefty fee it would cost him not because he liked him to continue .

Also one more turned out for England who Wilder let go for peanuts..

 

[petcharlie]

I didn't say he had, I said maybe based on what was said, so I didn't form a conclusion.
The answer to the rest of your list is easy, we don't pay enough to secure them and they all went to clubs who pay considerably more than we do.

You really are disappearing down the rabbit hole if you think the board deliberately bombed the transfer window with players who would sign for us with less money.
Why would they do that? Losing Premier League status costs a hell of a lot more than a few million to pay Wilder off, plus if we had another season Wilder would have had interest from others and he would have gone anyway. What you are proposed is totally illogical.

Final point, Wilder very much put forward the fact that we have what we think is a fair price and we won't go above that. That was his position and he was quite open about it. I think that brinkmanship pulled the rug out from under us when suddenly other PL clubs were looking to the Championship for a change, rather than only looking abroad. They didn't bat an eye lid at paying over the odds on fees or wages, but that wasn't something neither Wilder nor the club wanted to do.

You are correct when you say we did not pay enough on the wages front which of course had a big influence on the players not signing.That in it's self must have been frustrating for Wilder and could have brought about thoughts of hitting a brick wall as for thoughts of moving the club forward.As for Wilder moving on if we secured a third season in the prem we just do not know that pure speculation .The big mistake the club made in my opinion and it is my thoughts is we tried to get the quality needed but not prepared to pay the going rate for these guys wages , Now is that Wilders doing or the owners doing ?We do not know but who ever it was has cost the club millions in revenue . I think we have an owner who is feeling the pinch in the pocket which is not good news for the club.We gambled to get another season at the top without investing in the quality needed and we lost.

 

[petcharlie]

Also one more turned out for England who Wilder let go for peanuts..

I think you will find the club let him go as they have done well before Wilder walked through the door with many many more before him.I can go back 50 years watching the club sell our talent for peanuts and will do so again even AFTER Wilder.

 

[blades95]

Well you might not most of us do.Thats why we are on here so why are you?

Tbf last time I checked this was a Sheffield United forum not a Chris Wilder forum

 

[petcharlie]

Well petcharlie I get the distinct impression that you're Wilder's pet.

Of course I'd be interested to hear Wilder's opinions but whatever he says is unlikely to change my mind and accept that he was constructively dismissed.

IF it took Chris three attempts to get his resignation accepted then he must have been pretty desperate to leave (notice the BIG IF).

On the two occasions in my working life that I found my position untenable my resignation was accepted without hesitation and I got nowhere near a pay off from either, neither did I even consider that I had been constructively dismissed, I just didn't like the way the business was moving and on both occasions I had issues with my senior line management. Sound familiar?

It's the way of the world.

Have you ever done jury service mate?So you have found Wilder guilty before he has said a word in his defence . Well i am old enough to know you must hear both sides of any argument before coming to a verdict or a conclusion but you admit no matter what he might say you are sticking to your preset thoughts. Really comparing your experiences in your life has not got nothing at all to do with what we have here.Just because you have never experienced constructive dismissal means nothing as far as i can see .Did you really think because you did not get a pay off Wilder should not have one. Football management is a career which has it's own set of rules regarding a guy leaving his post in fact they could sack me every week with the huge payouts they get. It is the way it is and has been for decades .they all end up with huge payouts so why should he be different.Another example of the Prince trying not to pay the going rate? Maybe . Compared to other managers golden hand shakes Wilder has walk away with peanuts.

 

[JOEYDEE]

I think you will find the club let him go as they have done well before Wilder walked through the door with many many more before him.I can go back 50 years watching the club sell our talent for peanuts and will do so again even AFTER Wilder.

He was sold to Everton by Chris to buy a couple of players for lge one promotion push.

 

[petcharlie]

He was sold to Everton by Chris to buy a couple of players for lge one promotion push.

Well it worked then

 

[petcharlie]

It' a good tactic to have when having a disagreement .Get the other side to sign a non disclosure form and then tell everyone your side of the story by disclosing the parts you want others to know . Might try this tactic with the wife.Must say can not recall other owners slag an ex manager who has done so much for a club like he is doing to Wilder . Why ?What is he trying to prove also unprofessional and void of class.

 

[ilovesufc]

It' a good tactic to have when having a disagreement .Get the other side to sign a non disclosure form and then tell everyone your side of the story by disclosing the parts you want others to know . Might try this tactic with the wife.Must say can not recall other owners slag an ex manager who has done so much for a club like he is doing to Wilder . Why ?What is he trying to prove also unprofessional and void of class.

Get a bloody grip. Fans wants PA to come out and say what's happened. Now he gets slagged for doing exactly that. It obvious to any sane Blade Wilder wanted to go. Sick of hearing this shit. He's gone. Get over it! Are we going to move forward divided or united? If you're a true fan it's United. That's what the clubs needs now. UTB.

 

[knowsnowt]

It' a good tactic to have when having a disagreement .Get the other side to sign a non disclosure form and then tell everyone your side of the story by disclosing the parts you want others to know . Might try this tactic with the wife.Must say can not recall other owners slag an ex manager who has done so much for a club like he is doing to Wilder . Why ?What is he trying to prove also unprofessional and void of class.

Hi. Proof of this NDF you speak of please. And then post the text of the Prince slagging Chris off, because I've watched the full interview and it wasn't in there.
Tbh I think you're talking utter poo.. But I'm. open to you providing the above and making me look a silly sausage.

 

[Nagima]

It' a good tactic to have when having a disagreement .Get the other side to sign a non disclosure form and then tell everyone your side of the story by disclosing the parts you want others to know . Might try this tactic with the wife.Must say can not recall other owners slag an ex manager who has done so much for a club like he is doing to Wilder . Why ?What is he trying to prove also unprofessional and void of class.

There are two sides to every story. But wasn't it also upnprofressional by Wilder in his interviees. Praising the opposition and saying we can't compete. Saying he hasn't got the quality of players needed.
I appreciate what he has done for us. But this problem between manager and owner has been there since last summer.
It seems to have affected Wilders attitude. We are less positive on the pitch in how we play. Too slow to make changes. One area that stands out from the games is our woeful attempts at set pieces. It's like there has been no coaching and no plan.
Whatever silly buggers went on all season between Wilder and the prince should have been sorted sooner. But it seems one or both were too stubborn and it escalated to where we are now.

 

[knowsnowt]

Wilder cut his own throat calling the players that ran through walls for him and lead us to 9th in the Prem "championship players". That's demotivation right there for you. It's like telling your missus she's OK but not as fit as the lass next door. Fucking arsehole.

 

[PageHallBlade]

There are two sides to every story. But wasn't it also upnprofressional by Wilder in his interviees. Praising the opposition and saying we can't compete. Saying he hasn't got the quality of players needed.
I appreciate what he has done for us. But this problem between manager and owner has been there since last summer.
It seems to have affected Wilders attitude. We are less positive on the pitch in how we play. Too slow to make changes. One area that stands out from the games is our woeful attempts at set pieces. It's like there has been no coaching and no plan.
Whatever silly buggers went on all season between Wilder and the prince should have been sorted sooner. But it seems one or both were too stubborn and it escalated to where we are now.

i'll tell you what was unprofessional being bottom of the league and getting the press to ask about where he was with his contract (that still had 3 years to run) he fucked Duffy off for less

fucking brass neck

https://sportsalert.org/sheffield-united-chris-wilder-says-talks-over-his-future-not-happening/

 

[Sean Thornton]

Well petcharlie I get the distinct impression that you're Wilder's pet.

Of course I'd be interested to hear Wilder's opinions but whatever he says is unlikely to change my mind and accept that he was constructively dismissed.

IF it took Chris three attempts to get his resignation accepted then he must have been pretty desperate to leave (notice the BIG IF).

On the two occasions in my working life that I found my position untenable my resignation was accepted without hesitation and I got nowhere near a pay off from either, neither did I even consider that I had been constructively dismissed, I just didn't like the way the business was moving and on both occasions I had issues with my senior line management. Sound familiar?

It's the way of the world.

Untenable? While you were employed at the Happy Crab all you had to do was masturbate in Gary Megsons takeaway order each Friday. But no, that wasnt enough was it? Luckily The Crab had a soft spot for you as most staff who were let go were let go by Vern, from Norwich Row.

 

[Nagima]

i'll tell you what was unprofessional being bottom of the league and getting the press to ask about where he was with his contract (that still had 3 years to run) he fucked Duffy off for less

fucking brass neck

https://sportsalert.org/sheffield-united-chris-wilder-says-talks-over-his-future-not-happening/

Have to agree with you on that. What the fuck was he discussing his contract for.
It just seems like he wanted to cause disruption in public. And yes Duffy was shoved out the door.

 

[petcharlie]

Get a bloody grip. Fans wants PA to come out and say what's happened. Now he gets slagged for doing exactly that. It obvious to any sane Blade Wilder wanted to go. Sick of hearing this shit. He's gone. Get over it! Are we going to move forward divided or united? If you're a true fan it's United. That's what the clubs needs now. UTB.

Hardly a way to unite the club slagging a icon who has promoted the club from third league to knocking on the euro leagues door and making the club milloins and millions on the way. THE FANS WANT ALL THE NEWS TO COME OUT NOT JUST ONE SIDE OF IT. But having signed a non discloser agreement Wilder as all ways is a man of his word. Pity Prince got now't did not sign one . Doing the dirty washing in public come across as very crass in my opinion.Wilder on the other hand shows class

 

[petcharlie]

Hi. Proof of this NDF you speak of please. And then post the text of the Prince slagging Chris off, because I've watched the full interview and it wasn't in there.
Tbh I think you're talking utter poo.. But I'm. open to you providing the above and making me look a silly sausage.

I do not think you need my help mate in that department

 

[ComedyClub]

Hardly a way to unite the club slagging a icon who has promoted the club from third league to knocking on the euro leagues door and making the club milloins and millions on the way. THE FANS WANT ALL THE NEWS TO COME OUT NOT JUST ONE SIDE OF IT. But having signed a non discloser agreement Wilder as all ways is a man of his word. Pity Prince got now't did not sign one . Doing the dirty washing in public come across as very crass in my opinion.Wilder on the other hand shows class

He's done literally the exact same thing for about a month or two. Demands and expectations when you're on the worse run in league history, fuck off wilder "they know what I want" yeah, to carry on signing absolute dross with no input from the board. All about the wonga. Wake up and see it.

 

[petcharlie]

He's done literally the exact same thing for about a month or two. Demands and expectations when you're on the worse run in league history, fuck off wilder "they know what I want" yeah, to carry on signing absolute dross with no input from the board. All about the wonga. Wake up and see it.

When did Wilder slag Prince got now't off?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Hardly a way to unite the club slagging a icon who has promoted the club from third league to knocking on the euro leagues door and making the club milloins and millions on the way. THE FANS WANT ALL THE NEWS TO COME OUT NOT JUST ONE SIDE OF IT. But having signed a non discloser agreement Wilder as all ways is a man of his word. Pity Prince got now't did not sign one . Doing the dirty washing in public come across as very crass in my opinion.Wilder on the other hand shows class

Is leaking stories to the press and moaning about the board showing class?
Whereas giving an interview is washing your dirty laundry in public in your view.

You should give this arguement up, it’s about as strong as your understanding of DNAs and constructive dismissal.

 

[ComedyClub]

When did Wilder slag Prince got now't off?

Several times. In several papers. It's all out there for you to see buddy. Your amazing "prince got now't" I guarantee he's got a fuck tonne more than you and I, he'd have more too if he didn't allow wilder to spend 130m on absolute shit... But that's just my opinion.

 

[tyke1889]

When Danny Wilson is the 2nd best manager we've had for 10+ years you know we've made some poor choices. He was a Welshman's cock away from a very good season though.

If I recall the trial correctly it was his tongue, not his cock, wasn't it?

 

[petcharlie]

Is leaking stories to the press and moaning about the board showing class?
Whereas giving an interview is washing your dirty laundry in public.

You should give this arguement up, it’s about as strong as your understanding of DNAs and constructive dismissals.

What stories did he leak?The only leaks i can hear is from prince got now't

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

What stories did he leak?

Take your pick from all the ones saying he’s not happy, DoF is being in-forced on him, January transfer funds pulled, not being backed, being forced out. You think that was the board putting it out in the local press? The same local press moaning that our board don’t talk to them and only talk to nationals/TV?