What a refreshing change to have a honest forward looking owner.

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Dare I say it but this is like watching an estate agent and car salesman arguing...

Sods law it's an international break...

Tempted to start a thread about Billy Hart's legs going just to get back to some sort of normality.
 
I'm not a religious man, but I say a little prayer every day for Mike Mcdonald, Charles Green and Terry Robinson to step on an upturned plug or fall down the stairs.
Kevin McCabe has been added to that particular twat list in my house, can't stand the bloke.

The mark of his character was when he had a banner made thanking himself, which he then hung on the side of the hotel.

The same hotel he made the club pay for and then eventually buy back from him after closing it and making all the staff redundant.

But ya know, there's no bigger blade than him Seth.
 
Kevin McCabe has been added to that particular twat list in my house, can't stand the bloke.

The mark of his character was when he had a banner made thanking himself, which he then hung on the side of the hotel.

The same hotel he made the club pay for and then eventually buy back from him after closing it and making all the staff redundant.

But ya know, there's no bigger blade than him Seth.

Kevin McCabe was an owner of two halves for me.

When he first came in, he was a vast improvement on Fat Mike who was a massive asset-stripping twat, and initially stabilised the ship after the absolute boardroom circus of the 1990's.
But like you say, his ego was off the charts and he was as slippery as any politician in Westminster when pushed for answers. The period from 2007 onward was defined by stupid ventures and damaging decisions and he was acting like a complete arsehole by the end.
I think the only reason I've not criticised him as much as he deserves is because I once had a nice chat with him and Wilder in the Copthorne after we beat Wednesday 4-2 at the Rustbucket. We had a fun 5 minutes taking the piss out of the Grunters, which is always 5 minutes well spent.
 



Kevin McCabe has been added to that particular twat list in my house, can't stand the bloke.

The mark of his character was when he had a banner made thanking himself, which he then hung on the side of the hotel.

The same hotel he made the club pay for and then eventually buy back from him after closing it and making all the staff redundant.

But ya know, there's no bigger blade than him Seth.

The hotel comments are nonsense.
 
I'm not a religious man, but I say a little prayer every day for Mike Mcdonald, Charles Green and Terry Robinson to step on an upturned plug or fall down the stairs.
I wonder how well the Prince knows the history of the club and whether he realises he has a great opportunity to cement himself as the club's best ever owner. Who does he have to beat? Is there another club with such a poor record of owners?
His next move is an important one. If he has McCabitus we'll go through 10 crap managers, but we desperately need him to be lucky first time. I say lucky because I'm under no illusion how difficult it is to find the right manager. Jokanovic is the only name suggested so far that excites me - is that realistic? It would at least back up the ambitious talk.
 
I wonder how well the Prince knows the history of the club and whether he realises he has a great opportunity to cement himself as the club's best ever owner. Who does he have to beat? Is there another club with such a poor record of owners?
His next move is an important one. If he has McCabitus we'll go through 10 crap managers, but we desperately need him to be lucky first time. I say lucky because I'm under no illusion how difficult it is to find the right manager. Jokanovic is the only name suggested so far that excites me - is that realistic? It would at least back up the ambitious talk.

It's a compelling question isn't it? Prince Abdullah's background in the game apparently goes back 35 years, and I do get the impression that where he might have blindspots with regard to matters on the field, then he's more willing to surround himself with people who know the game. McCabe never really did that and what his cronies knew about football could be written on a postage stamp.

I think that at this time it's probably Jokanovic or bust, because like you, I just don't see another stand-out name filling that role.

I've said plenty on here about how gut-wrenching it is for me not having Wilder at the helm anymore but at the same time, I really see no reason to doubt Prince Abdullah either. He's tried to provide the resources to make us competitive at least, it's just not worked out as hoped. He was also well within his rights to raise concerns around recruitment and his critique of how Wilder conducted himself in the media at times was fair.

All in all, the owner has given a fairly good account of himself thus far, it's just a case of waiting to see if his plans bear fruit.
 
It's a compelling question isn't it? Prince Abdullah's background in the game apparently goes back 35 years, and I do get the impression that where he might have blindspots with regard to matters on the field, then he's more willing to surround himself with people who know the game. McCabe never really did that and what his cronies knew about football could be written on a postage stamp.

I think that at this time it's probably Jokanovic or bust, because like you, I just don't see another stand-out name filling that role.

I've said plenty on here about how gut-wrenching it is for me not having Wilder at the helm anymore but at the same time, I really see no reason to doubt Prince Abdullah either. He's tried to provide the resources to make us competitive at least, it's just not worked out as hoped. He was also well within his rights to raise concerns around recruitment and his critique of how Wilder conducted himself in the media at times was fair.

All in all, the owner has given a fairly good account of himself thus far, it's just a case of waiting to see if his plans bear fruit.
At the same time, criticism when it doesn't work out can be unfair. It's a bit of a standing joke that McCabe couldn't see a good manager if one punched him in the face, but Adkins looked good on paper, Clough was a gnat's away from working out, no one has a crystal ball. I would be delighted with Jakonovic, but trying not to get too set on it.
 
Bottom line he is basically skint. We have already borrowed against the parachute payments at 10% interest to fund the Prince buying out all McCabes interests in SUFC Ltd. That means players will be sold this summer so Egan, Berge and Brewster will all go leaving the new coach with a bunch of disaffected Wilder troops with no recollection of how to win football matches. League one beckons rather than a premium return mark my words, this is a gargantuan fluke up waiting to happen.
 
Bottom line he is basically skint. We have already borrowed against the parachute payments at 10% interest to fund the Prince buying out all McCabes interests in SUFC Ltd. That means players will be sold this summer so Egan, Berge and Brewster will all go leaving the new coach with a bunch of disaffected Wilder troops with no recollection of how to win football matches. League one beckons rather than a premium return mark my words, this is a gargantuan fluke up waiting to happen.
Did you get your crystal ball off Wish?
 
Bottom line he is basically skint. We have already borrowed against the parachute payments at 10% interest to fund the Prince buying out all McCabes interests in SUFC Ltd. That means players will be sold this summer so Egan, Berge and Brewster will all go leaving the new coach with a bunch of disaffected Wilder troops with no recollection of how to win football matches. League one beckons rather than a premium return mark my words, this is a gargantuan fluke up waiting to happen.
Have you got next week's euromillions numbers?
 
Bottom line he is basically skint. We have already borrowed against the parachute payments at 10% interest to fund the Prince buying out all McCabes interests in SUFC Ltd. That means players will be sold this summer so Egan, Berge and Brewster will all go leaving the new coach with a bunch of disaffected Wilder troops with no recollection of how to win football matches. League one beckons rather than a premium return mark my words, this is a gargantuan fluke up waiting to happen.

'Fluke up' - you can say the f word proper if you like, you're not on owlstalk now
 
At the same time, criticism when it doesn't work out can be unfair. It's a bit of a standing joke that McCabe couldn't see a good manager if one punched him in the face, but Adkins looked good on paper, Clough was a gnat's away from working out, no one has a crystal ball. I would be delighted with Jakonovic, but trying not to get too set on it.

It's a bit of a minefield really, I certainly thought Clough and Adkins were good choices initially, and of course the reverse of that was that nobody wanted Danny Wilson here and yet he did better than anybody until Wilder came along.

Everything has to align in order for a manager to make progress, from the relationship with the ownership to the chemistry with the squad he inherits, to acquiring the right players for the system and tactical approach to getting the fans on board. It's a tall order and there's no way of telling how it's going to go until at least 10 games into a season.

But as far as Jokanovic goes, if he can get us playing anything like his Fulham team then I'll certainly be happy with that.
 
Bottom line he is basically skint. We have already borrowed against the parachute payments at 10% interest to fund the Prince buying out all McCabes interests in SUFC Ltd. That means players will be sold this summer so Egan, Berge and Brewster will all go leaving the new coach with a bunch of disaffected Wilder troops with no recollection of how to win football matches. League one beckons rather than a premium return mark my words, this is a gargantuan fluke up waiting to happen.
Try not to change any timelines when you use the DeLorean please.
 



Bottom line he is basically skint. We have already borrowed against the parachute payments at 10% interest to fund the Prince buying out all McCabes interests in SUFC Ltd. That means players will be sold this summer so Egan, Berge and Brewster will all go leaving the new coach with a bunch of disaffected Wilder troops with no recollection of how to win football matches. League one beckons rather than a premium return mark my words, this is a gargantuan fluke up waiting to happen.
Does Brewster not have a Liverpool buy back clause for £40m which no one can ever see happening just now, I think you are living with the fairies at the bottom of the garden our kid.
 

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