Time for the Poll: Wilder Out or In

[FMBlade1]

What then, is the point of 571 people voting, with a clear winning margin?

Never said there wasn't a point, and it's a clear majority that support Wilder staying as manager. It's interesting as the minority can often be the loudest and I'm interested in what all Blades think not just the loudest on the forum.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Never said there wasn't a point, OK

and it's a clear majority that support Wilder staying as manager. CORRECT

It's interesting as the minority can often be the loudest BUT NOT IN THIS CASE

and I'm interested in what all Blades think not just the loudest on the forum. YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER

 

[Rodley]

Always going to be landslide in favour of Wilder.

We go again next year under CW

UTB

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Shake it all about?

 

[Stegosaurus]

Its American shite. Just like you talk shite. Are you Yank in disguise ?

The English term is the Dressing Room. He hasnt lost the respect of the players he brought with him up through the leagues. Those players owe him everything There is no evidence of this happening. It only happens in your tiny little brain

Im well up on most matters of sport even the American stuff so crack on with the quiz

Hello, there, Stegosaurus here,

Part 1 - Fill in the missing word

Question 1 -- Stegosaurus is the _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ poster on this forum. He has a big _ _ _ _ too. I'd let him _ _ _ _ my sister any day.

Question 2 - Aaron Ramsdale is _ _ _ _.

Question 3 - Brewster is a _ _ _ _ _ of money.

Question 4 - Oliver Burke is actually _ _ _ _ _ good, even though he can't _ _ _ _ _.


Part 2 -- General sporting knowledge

Question 1 - Which Sheffield Wednesday player known for his dashing mullet scored in the FA Cup Semi-Final against Sheffield United?

Question 2 - Which Sheffield United player did Stegosaurus have a photo with when he was a mascot?

Question 3 - And which team did Sheffield United play when Stegosaurus was a mascot--clue, one of the players then joined the Blades?

Question 4 - Who won the 1932 YoYo World Championship?


I'll do a Rockbusters football edition for Part 3, when I can be arsed.

 

[Pedro Verde]

Hello, there, Stegosaurus here,

Part 1 - Fill in the missing word

Question 1 -- Stegosaurus is the most pointless poster on this forum. He has a big fat arse too. He shags his sister all day.

I cant be arsed with the rest of that bollocks

 

[benn5712]

I don't have millions and billions to buy the Mighty but infuriating Blades, but if I had I would do.
And if I was loaded, would no doubt be fairly smart to be so. But I'm neither and can't bankroll us although I wish more than owt I could.
Nah den, we've shot up the leagues and perhaps a bit too quickly, and that's a lot of CW/AKs doing along with some backing. We aren't down yet.
Remember the likes of Sid Cowans, Mortimer, Rioch, Saunders, Andy Reid? quality experienced pro's from top level football still with mileage in them. Two the likes of them
would have been good short term signings.
He stays for me. CW does tend to learn and this may be his biggest lesson yet.
And fellow Blades, stop chewing more than you can bite off. We've always been the same.

 

[SUFC Guy]

Perfect thread for the haters on this forum.

Question for all of the 'CW out' fans.....

How would you feel if we lost CW and next year he was sat in the auto places in the run in, while we are sat mid table at best?

Just have a serious think about that.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Never said there wasn't a point, and it's a clear majority that support Wilder staying as manager. It's interesting as the minority can often be the loudest and I'm interested in what all Blades think not just the loudest on the forum.

That was exactly my point. There have been lots of posters hysterically calling for his head recently. The poll is a good sample and proves that they are in a minority even though they are loud. Thanks for backing me up.

 

[dc_blade]

Over 500 votes cast, a good sized sample. And over 70% want him to stay. A very sizeable vote of confidence.

A casual observer of the vitriol on shoutbox or the number of anti wilder threads constantly appearing on the forum would be surprised at this. But as with most things, the rabid minority drown out the reasonable majority.

It would be nice if all the arm chair managers who know how to manage the club so much better than wilder can piped down for a bit now. But they won’t.

So next time you see one of the usual suspects posting some ill informed crap about our manager, just remember that it comes from a small minority and that most of us don’t agree.

And yet there's been a big increase in the percentage of people who want him gone since the poll at the beginning of the month...

 

[dc_blade]

This. The turgid, defensive setup, the boring walking football, the hoofball whenever anyone over 5’9 plays upfront. I’d be nowhere near out if we were still playing like us, but we’re producing utter dross, barely laying a glove on anyone. To add insult to injury, in his interviews it’s clear that this is absolutely deliberate as he seems to have lost his nerve.
I don’t know how anyone could have watched the football we’ve played for well over a year now, and have the audacity to scoff at so-called dinosaur managers.

To be fair, it's not "well over a year." Last week I rewatched the highlights of Brighton away from December last year--it was far from our best performance during that spell but we played some really nice stuff and had the ball in the net three or four times (with VAR ruling the goals out).

A couple of weeks after that, we were very unlucky not to get something from a brave and clever performance away at Man City. I wonder if being cheated by the ref and VAR in that game then getting taken to school at Anfield shortly thereafter is what broke our confidence?

 

[vas borbokis]

I'm definitely in the Wilder in camp.
A few months where he has had rotten luck doesn't mean he can't do well again in more favourable circumstances.
We're all very frustrated at the downturn but the margins are fine.
Last season we clearly overachieved. Many many one goal wins and many draws put us on top of the "also-ran"s last season. We had a limited squad but... few injuries, a settled side, a world class keeper, a "novel" system which surprised many. These things were also a reason we were promoted.
This time out we have had major injuries to JOC Moose Fleck now Berge. Lunny with ideas above his station wants away, new Keeper is decent but not world class, the system has been somewhat worked out but is also faltering without JOC with Norwood, Enda and Fleck's form all missing too.
The upshot is instead of picking points up we are losing by the odd goal every week and confidence is draining away.
Nobody can name a manager that would guarantee to keep us up. Nobody can name one that could guarantee a swift promotion from the Championship either with these players.
We will have some money going forward due to Wilder and Knilly's achievements. No-one else has brought money into the club like they have with their magnificent achievements hitherto, yet many want to chuck them under a bus because they've hit a glass ceiling. They will bring us back stronger if we stand by them and thats where I'm going to be standing.
COYRAWW & FTP

 

[ancientblade]

I'm definitely in the Wilder in camp.
A few months where he has had rotten luck doesn't mean he can't do well again in more favourable circumstances.
We're all very frustrated at the downturn but the margins are fine.
Last season we clearly overachieved. Many many one goal wins and many draws put us on top of the "also-ran"s last season. We had a limited squad but... few injuries, a settled side, a world class keeper, a "novel" system which surprised many. These things were also a reason we were promoted.
This time out we have had major injuries to JOC Moose Fleck now Berge. Lunny with ideas above his station wants away, new Keeper is decent but not world class, the system has been somewhat worked out but is also faltering without JOC with Norwood, Enda and Fleck's form all missing too.
The upshot is instead of picking points up we are losing by the odd goal every week and confidence is draining away.
Nobody can name a manager that would guarantee to keep us up. Nobody can name one that could guarantee a swift promotion from the Championship either with these players.
We will have some money going forward due to Wilder and Knilly's achievements. No-one else has brought money into the club like they have with their magnificent achievements hitherto, yet many want to chuck them under a bus because they've hit a glass ceiling. They will bring us back stronger if we stand by them and thats where I'm going to be standing.
COYRAWW & FTP

good post agree on all points nobody is gonna get us out of this mess now might as well stick with the management team and give em a crack at the championship weve a good enough squad to do very well imo even if 2 or 3 will move on we go again utb fto

 

[Robboblade1889]

Never said there wasn't a point, and it's a clear majority that support Wilder staying as manager. It's interesting as the minority can often be the loudest and I'm interested in what all Blades think not just the loudest on the forum.

The Wilder out camp which is plainly in the minority but very much the loudest have gone from “you can’t say you want wilder out without getting abuse” to “anyone who thinks he should stay is an effing idiot”.
It makes me all warm and fuzzy that it’s small minority saying the same stuff over and over again not to mention the shoutbox mafia!

 

[Blade in Cordoba]

'the rabid minority drown out the reasonable majority'

'piped down'

'the 'usual suspects'

Yeah. That all sounds perfectly reasonable.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Yeah. That all sounds perfectly reasonable.

I've included no swearing or personal abuse. For a forum, where people exchange views, and often resorting to both, I think what I have said is very reasonable.
Perhaps you don't like it because you disagree?

 

[Blade in Cordoba]

I've included no swearing or personal abuse. For a forum, where people exchange views, and often resorting to both, I think what I have said is very reasonable.
Perhaps you don't like it because you disagree?

Ironic isn't it? A forum exists for people to exchange views yet you categorically label people (the minority) holding a different viewpoint to yours as 'rabid'. You tell them, in effect that they should 'pipe down'.
You call them 'usual suspects'. All in all, I would say your use of language isn't reasonable in that you are seeking to suppress the opinions of people you don't agree with .
As for me - I expressed my opinion on the poll that CW should not be our manager and gave my reasons, and many more have argued eloquently against. Most didn't make it personal though.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Ironic isn't it? A forum exists for people to exchange views yet you categorically label people (the minority) holding a different viewpoint to yours as 'rabid'. You tell them, in effect that they should 'pipe down'.
You call them 'usual suspects'. All in all, I would say your use of language isn't reasonable in that you are seeking to suppress the opinions of people you don't agree with .
As for me - I expressed my opinion on the poll that CW should not be our manager and gave my reasons, and many more have argued eloquently against. Most didn't make it personal though.

There are about 10 people who post very frequently, start new threads after every game and seem to spend all day whipping each other up into a frenzy on Shoutbox (when ever I look in they are there and put me off contributing), who have been slagging Wilder off for quite some time and have increased the levels of abuse with each passing week.

I am referring to them as 'rabid' and 'usual suspects' not the vast majority of the Wilder out voters. I understand that viewpoint, but do not agree with it. I would certainly not tar all of them with the same brush.

 

[Silent Blade]

I remember before watching the Blades at Old Trafford in Boxing Day 1973, my dad said to me "Tommy Docherty will get the sack if we win today". We won 2-1 but Docherty didnt get the sack and when Man U got relegation 4 months later, they still didnt sack Docherty and it was a wise decision!

 

[BladeByChoice]

I’ve waited until now to vote because I didn’t want any decision to be knee-jerk, and its with a heavy heart that I’ve moved into the Wilder out camp.

I spent a few hours yesterday watching highlights on You Tube from our 1-0 wins last season and our 1-0 losses this season and I can honestly say that we are 98% of what we were last year, but it’s the 2% that makes all the difference, in the same way that a human is 98% chimpanzee.

We haven’t lost our skill or work rate, our heads haven’t dropped, but what we have lost is our panache and flare, our fearlessness and confidence. And the only way to fix that is motivation.

We all know what Chris said about motivating the team and IMO he’s 100% wrong. Any manager who thinks he doesn’t need to motivate his team should be demoted, and any manager who thinks its not their job to motivate their team should not be managing a team of shelf stackers at Lidl, never mind a Premier League football club.

Its human nature to start analysing deeper when a negative is found, and now I’m wondering about the pointless substitutions. Last season we were proactively changing to protect a lead and reactively changing to chase a draw if we went behind. This season we seen to be changing like for like in formations that it looks like we have spent 10 minutes training on, in the hope that some combination will click.

I’m sorry Chris, but you’ve spent years building a successful team around a unique system and then spent millions on players who don’t fit, and then refuse to play anything else.

As far as I’m concerned, Chris Wilder is a 100% Blades legend, you can put the statue in the car park this week, he deserves it, he also deserves every ounce of respect and hero worship I, and thousands of others have given him.

But its over, he’s just not dynamic enough for the Premier League, his ambition and commitment aren’t in question, nether is his passion, but he’s run of talent and IMO would be too stubborn to accept an assistant manager coming in to give us some fresh ideas.

 

[Lane Ender]

And yet I seem to remember that when Wilder arrived the very first thing he did was to ship out over half the team

I reckon this what he’ll do with most of this squad they are past their sell by date.
He’s trying to compete in a Gran Prix with a Ford Fiesta

 

[SUFC Guy]

I honestly believe that letting CWAK go will turn out to be the biggest mistake this club has EVER made.

The only way we would get a better manager would be for a heavy investor to come into the club with the financial clout that would attract a big name and big name players.

I've, got news for you though, it ain't gunna happen my friends.

Until that happens then its CWAK all the way for me - even if we don't get another point all season.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

As usual - noisy minority



Thank goodness 2020, annus horribilis is ending for numerous reasons.

For ever the optimist - lets start 2021 by beating Palace and finally kick our season off.

happy new year everyone

UTB

 

[Bladeloyal]

Barney out

 

[FMBlade1]

As usual - noisy minority

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Thank goodness 2020, annus horribilis is ending for numerous reasons.

For ever the optimist - lets start 2021 by beating Palace and finally kick our season off.

happy new year everyone

UTB

That said, it can't be denied that if this poll was taken at the start of December it would be at most around 10% I would guess so quite an increase in the space of some weeks

This isn't a campaign of course, and hope the 27% get ever smaller courtesy of a win against Crystal Palace

 

[BladesOnToast]

hope the 27% get ever smaller courtesy of a win against Crystal Palace

could you stop it please? After Burnley i had fully and totally dispensed with any optimism and was fully accepting of the inevitable defeat that's coming. Now the likes of you have me wondering if maybe, just maybe, Saturday's game will be This Season's Nottingham Forest. I mean we did the double over Palace just last season. And so returns the optimism and then the crushing disappointment for the seventeenth time this season!

 

[A Storm of Blades]

To be fair, it's not "well over a year." Last week I rewatched the highlights of Brighton away from December last year--it was far from our best performance during that spell but we played some really nice stuff and had the ball in the net three or four times (with VAR ruling the goals out).

A couple of weeks after that, we were very unlucky not to get something from a brave and clever performance away at Man City. I wonder if being cheated by the ref and VAR in that game then getting taken to school at Anfield shortly thereafter is what broke our confidence?

I count COVID years like dog years

 

[ancientblade]

I honestly believe that letting CWAK go will turn out to be the biggest mistake this club has EVER made.

The only way we would get a better manager would be for a heavy investor to come into the club with the financial clout that would attract a big name and big name players.

I've, got news for you though, it ain't gunna happen my friends.

Until that happens then its CWAK all the way for me - even if we don't get another point all season.

agree bring another manager in and we could do a sunderland but im confident if we stick with cw/ak we will finish in the top 6 eleven 1 - 0 defeats however dissapointing suggests this squad could come straight back up huge gap between premier league and championship thesedays even our inept strikers will score plenty in la liga utb fto

 

[jezw2014]

Neil Warnock, Nigel Adkins, Phil Brown, Alan Pardew, Alan Curbishley. They’ve all got promotion from the Championship to the top flight. Would you want any of those at the helm?

None of them would come cos of you and your 27% in the Wilder in or out vote kidda!!

 

[Swinton Blade]

Neil Warnock, Nigel Adkins, Phil Brown, Alan Pardew, Alan Curbishley. They’ve all got promotion from the Championship to the top flight. Would you want any of those at the helm?

I'd take Rafa Benitez who got promoted from Championship.