COVID Season Ticket

[sitwell]

In terms of killing people - there’s an unspoken reality that a death of someone who was going to die within a year is nothing like as serious as the death of someone in their prime.

The average age of a COVID death is 84.

Unless you are that 84 year old ,its pretty serious then .

 

[alcoblade]

Unless you are that 84 year old ,its pretty serious then .

It is. But for the wider population, making sensible decisions about prioritisation, it’s simply (but not emotionally) nothing like as serious.

The elderly people I’ve discussed this with think exactly the same. It’s pure common sense.

 

[Freethinker]

Unless you are that 84 year old ,its pretty serious then .

No it's pretty serious if you are that 84 years old otherwise 1 in 300.000 chance of dying below the age of 65 ish

 

[alcoblade]

No it's pretty serious if you are that 84 years old otherwise 1 in 300.000 chance of dying below the age of 65 ish

It’s also really serious for the billions of people who had significant parts of their life ruined as a result of lockdown, and the millions who will die in future as a result of the world debt we’ve created.

 

[Blade.com]

Same to you

.I'll send you a postcard from Skiathos. Where do you want it posting, Filey or Skeg Vegas.

 

[knowsnowt]

Given I'm iin a high risk group and that it cost me my job too, I'd just like to add that I wouldn't back mandatory vaccinations or even a covid vaccine "passport" to change either of those circumstances.

 

[Freethinker]

.I'll send you a postcard from Skiathos. Where do you want it posting, Filey or Skeg Vegas.

South west coast of italy where I shall be retiring to without the vaccine

 

[Blade.com]

In terms of killing people - there’s an unspoken reality that a death of someone who was going to die within a year is nothing like as serious as the death of someone in their prime.

The average age of a COVID death is 84.

Lets hope you make it to 84. Just to test your theory

 

[Freethinker]

Given I'm iin a high risk group and that it cost me my job too, I'd just like to add that I wouldn't back mandatory vaccinations or even a covid vaccine "passport" to change either of those circumstances.

Well done to you for having some principles although in your situation am not sure a lot of people would agree with you

 

[Blade.com]

South west coast of italy where I shall be retiring to without the vaccine

All I can say to that is Good Luck and enjoy.

 

[knowsnowt]

Lets hope you make it to 84. Just to test your theory

He'll be fine once you lot have had the vaccine creating herd immunity.

 

[sitwell]

South west coast of italy where I shall be retiring to without the vaccine

How you getting there

 

[knowsnowt]

Well done to you for having some principles although in your situation am not sure a lot of people would agree with you

FACT of the matter is most people are speaking as they've a wish to protect the many, when in reality its about protecting themselves and those close to them.

 

[Freethinker]

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How you getting there

You don't honestly think every form of travel or companies are going to insist on vaccine only it would be nigh on impossible to implement also there are too many people against it for it to become statuary[/QUOTE]

 

[sitwell]

Scenic route then

 

[Freethinker]

Scenic route then

Whatever

 

[Silent Blade]

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The average age of a COVID death is 84.

That is because so many care homes have been death traps

 

[alcoblade]

That is because so many care homes have been death traps

Well yes. And because it almost exclusively kills old people, all over the entire world.

So much so that the case for lockdown is going to be really difficult after vaccines are administered to the old in December.

I’m surprised this isn’t being challenged yet.

 

[Freethinker]

Well yes. And because it almost exclusively kills old people, all over the entire world.

So much so that the case for lockdown is going to be really difficult after vaccines are administered to the old in December.

I’m surprised this isn’t being challenged yet.

Because they've frightened everyone to death they do whatever the authorities tell them

 

[alcoblade]

Because they've frightened everyone to death they do whatever the authorities tell them

To some degree yes. And that arguably has a purpose right now.

What’s the purpose when the people it can kill have been vaccinated?

 

[Freethinker]

To some degree yes. And that arguably has a purpose right now.

What’s the purpose when the people it can kill have been vaccinated?

None except control over people

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

The technology for requiring a Covid Season Ticket to enter a ground would actually be very straightforward. I've been to 17 games with fans this season. The vast majority of those have been.... Point your NHS App at a QR code at the turnstile, it pings & puts a check in certificate on your screen, the steward checks that by eye & lets you pass to the turnstile. My Covid test results are already on that same App. That's all the same App. The only "technology" the host club needs is an A4 printout of the QR code. (I've also been at UEFA Tournaments where all entry is via Smartphones). Here's how it plays out.....

The Premier League as an international multi dollar business are, as always, image conscious, they actively want to be seen as exemplar, to be free from controversy. They decide, for their business, they want Covid Season Tickets. It's not like Utd fans can just decide to "use another pub" or "fly with another airline". The NHS App, QR code, linked to your test results & Vaccine status already exists. And it is already proving to be spectacularly easy to use entering football grounds, requiring one steward per turnstile as the PL already have.
I can choose to have the Vaccine
I can choose to use a smartphone
The Premier League & Sheffield United Saudi World Of Adventure FC (or whatever we're called now) can choose to require a Vaccine Season Ticket by amending four fucking sentences in the T&C's
Choose
Then, those who choose not to have e Vaccine or choose not to use a smartphone are choosing to not go.
Choose.

Pick Dem Bones

 

[alcoblade]

None except control over people

But that’s the means of it, right now. You don’t seriously suggest that’s the end game?

And if so, why on earth would it be the case?

 

[Freethinker]

The technology for requiring a Covid Season Ticket to enter a ground would actually be very straightforward. I've been to 17 games with fans this season. The vast majority of those have been.... Point your NHS App at a QR code at the turnstile, it pings & puts a check in certificate on your screen, the steward checks that by eye & lets you pass to the turnstile. My Covid test results are already on that same App. That's all the same App. The only "technology" the host club needs is an A4 printout of the QR code. (I've also been at UEFA Tournaments where all entry is via Smartphones). Here's how it plays out.....

The Premier League as an international multi dollar business are, as always, image conscious, they actively want to be seen as exemplar, to be free from controversy. They decide, for their business, they want Covid Season Tickets. It's not like Utd fans can just decide to "use another pub" or "fly with another airline". The NHS App, QR code, linked to your test results & Vaccine status already exists. And it is already proving to be spectacularly easy to use entering football grounds, requiring one steward per turnstile as the PL already have.
I can choose to have the Vaccine
I can choose to use a smartphone
The Premier League & Sheffield United Saudi World Of Adventure FC (or whatever we're called now) can choose to require a Vaccine Season Ticket by amending four fucking sentences in the T&C's
Choose
Then, those who choose not to have e Vaccine or choose not to use a smartphone are choosing to not go.
Choose.

Pick Dem Bones
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But that’s the means of it, right now. You don’t seriously suggest that’s the end game?

And if so, why on earth would it be the case?

Perhaps they want to change society to have more control of people's behavior

 

[alcoblade]

I think we’re entering the realms of the crackpot here fella.

It kills old people, and we can debate the extents to which we should go to prevent that.

This big brother nonsense is....just that.

 

[Freethinker]

I think we’re entering the realms of the crackpot here fella.

It kills old people, and we can debate the extents to which we should go to prevent that.

This big brother nonsense is....just that.

Perhaps perhaps not I have an open mind till proven one way or another

 

[Freethinker]

I think we’re entering the realms of the crackpot here fella.

It kills old people, and we can debate the extents to which we should go to prevent that.

This big brother nonsense is....just that.

Have you seen the footage of lockdown protests six police bundling older persons into back of police vans why aren't these protests shown on news programs do you think

 

[alcoblade]

Perhaps perhaps not I have an open mind till proven one way or another

It should be the other way around.

There’s simply very few reasons to destroy the fun, livelihoods and prospects of billions of people.

Controlling a pandemic is one argument.

Big brother is in the nonsense bin, and it’s up to the crackpots to argue away from that position.

 

[alcoblade]

Have you seen the footage of lockdown protests six police bundling older persons into back of police vans why aren't these protests shown on news programs do you think

Because there’s more newsworthy stuff on the day?

I have seen that news by the way, and freely available on mainstream media, not the David Icke channel.

 

[Freethinker]

Because there’s more newsworthy stuff on the day?

I have seen that news by the way, and freely available on mainstream media, not the David Icke channel.

I am no crackpot and don't watch David Icke like I said I am open minded not blinded by the media's agendas