#LetFansIn

[TomHeffernan]

Everyone not at risk goes in. Full capacity. As with life. Everyone at risk isolates. Worked in Sweden. Why the fuck we're not copying them is beyond me.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Must admit, until we're allowed back to full capacity, then I'm not interested in going. I don't want to be one of the lucky few that are allowed in the ground, I want all of us to be there.

Sounds a good scenario - but, realistically for that to happen we need to reach a situation that you can catch covid and know 100% that you can find out quickly and then go to the chemist and buy a cure - bit like an aspirin for a headache. We're years off that solution, if ever there is a solution like that.

UTB

 

[WhiteHawk]

Sounds a good scenario - but, realistically for that to happen we need to reach a situation that you can catch covid and know 100% that you can find out quickly and then go to the chemist and buy a cure - bit like an aspirin for a headache. We're years off that solution, if ever there is a solution like that.

UTB

We're never going to get to that point.

 

[Bladesman]

Sounds a good scenario - but, realistically for that to happen we need to reach a situation that you can catch covid and know 100% that you can find out quickly and then go to the chemist and buy a cure - bit like an aspirin for a headache. We're years off that solution, if ever there is a solution like that.

UTB

There won't be a cure of it, there will be a jab that reduces the risk.

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

Sounds a good scenario - but, realistically for that to happen we need to reach a situation that you can catch covid and know 100% that you can find out quickly and then go to the chemist and buy a cure - bit like an aspirin for a headache. We're years off that solution, if ever there is a solution like that.

UTB

In an ideal world, this would be the way - however there is a major issue. COVID is a virus. There is no cure for a virus & there has never been a point in human history where a virus has been ‘stopped’.

If at some point in the next decade, we managed to craft a vaccine 100% as effective as the Flu vaccine (also a virus), then we will still have COVID.

It’s here to stay, whether we like it or not. The ultimate question is, how long are we expected to be cooped up away from each other & not being able to go about our lives in a ‘normal’ way? This winter? Next year? 2030?

Edit - apparently Smallpox was a virus that has successfully been eliminated... so hopefully in the next 100 years we can go back to normal!

 

[Berkshire Blade]

As Boris himself has said you can't isolate the people likely to get it and let everyone carry on as normal so anyone suggesting that is in the wrong.

Most hospitalisations since June nearly 500 admitted yesterday. Just because we are fed up doesn't mean it's gone away.

 

[SB_90]

it needed especially down the bottom in conference. where its common sense. i looked at the conference average attendances. most only get 1500/2000 on a pre pandemic Matchday. which would be easy to do distanced

 

[knowsnowt]

Personally I'm done being locked down, it's already cost me my job, and I may be in the highest risk group but I need to put food on the table now.
Had to knock a little lad off his bmx earlier and sell it on facey market place to afford a few potatoes and some Branston beans.
It's getting desperate now.

 

[SuperSonicBlade89]

I'm happy Sheff United have jumped on the #LetFansIn bandwagon.
I am generally healthy, however I am also in the "at risk" category. However I've maintained all along that it should be up to the people NOT government to self determination.

Remember that saying "its a free country"? Well we all knew it was bollocks back then and even more so now.

If this is serious as the government wants us to beleive, then why are there no bio-bins ANYWHERE? (for disposal of disposable masks, tissue etc). Why havn't they distributed a hazmat suit for everyone. Even the NHS has inappropriate PPE. Speaking of PPE, these disposable masks aren't even PPE! Conflicting information. When they initially said we are going into lockdown, I assumed the worst... zombie apocalypse, peeling skin, gushing up blood, people keeling over dieing in the streets... no... it's flu... not a nice flu and you could die... But you can die from many types of flu. I could walk in front of a bus tomorrow. I was in Infections Diseases Ward for a week in 2015 after I caught 2 strains of flu that had mutated. I luckily got better, however my point is, viruses mutate and evolve. It's a constant risk. Do we all hide away every time from now on?

I would find it hilarious if every venue of every sport just defied the government and opened with limited capacity anyway. What would the government do? Take all these authorities to court? Risk alienating sports fans/authorities which equals votes. Hey it is a democracy!

Some fans is better than no fans.
So if you feel against it... hide away! You are not being forced to go... or we could just continue watching this tennis... no sorry snooker... no wait... lifeless boring football instead of moderately boring football with a limited crowd.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

except they will be drastic - the virus kills people.

Out of interest - are you in the "at risk category" ?

How about this as a drastic measure - any fan KNOWINGLY going into a ground with COVID or is supposed to be isolating as denoted by track and trace rules to face a criminal charge.

UTB

I'm in the 'at risk' category... I'll go to the Lane no problem.

Criminal charge? Behave. What if I'm back end of the flu? That kills more people. Or are we covid specific again?

 

[TomHeffernan]

No chance till this time next year I recon.

northwest going on full lockdown again shortly

 

[jt64]

There's too many people to reply to, so I'm not going to bother.

I'm just disappointed how little people seem to care for others, how little they value human life and how avoidable deaths just seem like a small price to pay to watch a bit of live football.

I guess you don't know any of the 3 million people that have missed a cancer screening as a result of shutting down the entire NHS for a disease that's killing people at the same rate as flu, which aims almost exclusively at the already seriously ill/elderly/obese? Or those that had already been diagnosed, but have had treatment postponed/cancelled and are now terminal as a result? I think that some of them would say that their deaths have been avoidable given the NHS was never in any danger of being overrun, and wards sat empty for months while nurses were making TikTok videos.

You're conflicting being able to look at things in proportion and being a heartless bastard, and I think you seriously underestimate quite how many people die each day, and what levels of death Covid has brought when compared to everything else. If you want to hide away for the rest of eternity from microscopic germs, that's your call, most of us have actually watched the last eight months, now realise that Covid is just another virus, and that the exact sort of thing that we need to do to get over the line towards herd immunity (which somewhere like London already has, and for which the North is getting very close) is to encourage large gatherings of the healthy. There's been 70,000 "cases of Covid" in universities in the US - three people were hospitalised. None of them are going to go back home at Christmas and kill their grandparents as a result.

Open up the Lane, trust the fans to think "hmm, I might be at risk or my old man might be, better wait to go back for a bit" for themselves, and, to reuse an old phrase, this will be over by Christmas

 

[nowintillxmas]

Continuation of these 'rules' will kill more people than covid1984 does. How many diagnosed and undiagnosed conditions are people going to die from due to not getting checked out by a doc etc? What about mental illness, what about job loss and therefore lost life opportunities? What about increased suicide rates? Risk vs reward has always been a balancing act, and every single living creature has a different view of what risk they are prepared to take.
FWIW, I won't be venturing back into a football ground until normality is returned, this is based on my experiences of social distancing in pubs etc, imo it's not worth the hassle sadly.

 

[Keef Chedwyn]

It wouldn't be so bad if people felt like they couldn't go to the match because were in the middle of a pandemic and life has to be different for a while.

It's pretty much the same but with masks and a bit shitter.

 

[PokerBlade]

I'm torn between wanting to go back to the ground and the fact that a number of football fans haven't yet figured out how to follow rules such as no standing and no smoking. My faith in them to wear a mask, keep a distance, and not have had a couple too many beers to care is rather low.

On the other hand, the sad reality is that in every decision we make about national policy there's an implicit decision about how many casualties are acceptable. When we build roads, let people use cars, there's a number of people about to be in car crashes that we're saying are an acceptable loss for the quality of life it gives the rest of us. Every decision from which roads should have a zebra crossing or what the speed limit should be has that risk/reward calculation in the background.

It shouldn't be that surprising that some people are getting to a point with Covid where they say they're willing to risk a little more in order to have a better quality of life. It's the kind of decision we make all the time. Some of us are going to have a different threshold for what an acceptable risk is. I don't know if I'm in favour of fans going back to games yet but I am sure that people advocating for it aren't just sociopaths wanting to watch the world go under. They're just drawing the line a little bit further up.

 

[Ted Danson]

As Boris himself has said you can't isolate the people likely to get it and let everyone carry on as normal so anyone suggesting that is in the wrong.

Most hospitalisations since June nearly 500 admitted yesterday. Just because we are fed up doesn't mean it's gone away.

How many were admitted at this time last year or the year before? Its coming into winter and hospital admissions go up naturally.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

How many were admitted at this time last year or the year before? Its coming into winter and hospital admissions go up naturally.

From covid? Not many.

ITV reporting pubs and restaurants in the north could be made to close from Monday.

 

[Ted Danson]

From covid? Not many.

ITV reporting pubs and restaurants in the north could be made to close from Monday.

No all together, how many of these admissions this year are due to symptoms of Covid or patients who've tested positive for Covid in the last 28 days?

My feeling is most of these people would have been admitted to hospital anyway, Covid or no Covid

 

[s4-blade]

What a club we are, fuck all the brainwashed dog molesters.

 

[Dean68]

Everyone not at risk goes in. Full capacity. As with life. Everyone at risk isolates. Worked in Sweden. Why the fuck we're not copying them is beyond me.

Sweden has a limit of 50 spectators per match

 

[TomHeffernan]

Sweden has a limit of 50 spectators per match

Yeah, yeah. I meant apart from that

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

How insensitive and thoughtless. Maybe if you knew someone who had died from the virus, you might be a bit more compassionate.

Do you know somebody who did?

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

There's too many people to reply to, so I'm not going to bother.

I'm just disappointed how little people seem to care for others, how little they value human life and how avoidable deaths just seem like a small price to pay to watch a bit of live football.

I'm beyond caring any more. I do not believe the risk is proportionate to the restrictions. The data and stats show that though cases are rising, deaths aren't. They're not rising in line with any proportionate statistic or percentage or anything.

Flu and pneumonia are killing more people. 10 times more people than covid, and for the last 10 weeks.

The fear factor has got to you big style.

 

[benn5712]

It was a good atmosphere at Hallam FC as well.

Vs Hull? Enjoyed it. Hull's dugout was worth the entrance fee for entertainment value.
Going again Saturday. May try to get to Sheffield FC soon.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Sounds a good scenario - but, realistically for that to happen we need to reach a situation that you can catch covid and know 100% that you can find out quickly and then go to the chemist and buy a cure - bit like an aspirin for a headache. We're years off that solution, if ever there is a solution like that.

UTB

We're years away from ever having something like that. I'm using the flu example again, but that has a jab and over the counter medicines and yet we still get the flu.

Is it beyond to say that we will never have a proper cure for this virus?

 

[Bladesman]

Vs Hull? Enjoyed it. Hull's dugout was worth the entrance fee for entertainment value.
Going again Saturday. May try to get to Sheffield FC soon.

Yeah their manager was going mental. Didn't he try to argue with one of the fans?

Eventually he went Marcelo Bielsa and sat on the wall disappointed.

 

[benn5712]

One was giving the ref and linesman stick, bit like us/VAR. Other bloke leaned over the wall reckoning £5 to see proper footy was a bargain.
All good humoured, end to end, goals, saves and a decent pint of Mansfield's.

 

[benn5712]

Yeah their manager was going mental. Didn't he try to argue with one of the fans?

Eventually he went Marcelo Bielsa and sat on the wall disappointed.

Yeah their manager was going mental. Didn't he try to argue with one of the fans?

Eventually he went Marcelo Bielsa and sat on the wall disappointed.

 

[benn5712]

Yeah their manager was going mental. Didn't he try to argue with one of the fans?

Eventually he went Marcelo Bielsa and sat on the wall disappointed.

One was giving the ref and linesman stick, bit like us/VAR. Other bloke leaned over the wall reckoning £5 to see proper footy was a bargain.
All good humoured, end to end, goals, saves and a decent pint of Mansfield's.

Supposed to reply #87 with #88.
God knows what # I'm at now.

 

[Bladesman]

One was giving the ref and linesman stick, bit like us/VAR. Other bloke leaned over the wall reckoning £5 to see proper footy was a bargain.
All good humoured, end to end, goals, saves and a decent pint of Mansfield's.

Seemed like they were not overly impressed with the ref. I thought the ref was alright for that level of football to be honest.

Last time I went I saw the most blatant Vinnie Jones style tackle go totally unpunished.