Gone Elsewhere Antonee Robinson

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In spunking money away like this, Fulham have clearly learnt nothing from their last time in PL. And I agree, I think Scott Parker wont last five minutes in the job next season - especially if wages like this have been handed out.

We can't go on forever paying below the going rates for PL players. The board need to step up an support CW in this process (however gradual it may be).
 

Nah den said:
Sigh. At the risk of going round in circles...we are missing out on him because we wanted him, had a bid accepted for him. The reason we're missing out on him is because Fulham are willing to pay a lot of money to an unproven kid and quite rightly we are not. But missing out on him we are.

I'm less bothered about this than someone like Cash, if he goes elsewhere or if a striker we've decided to go all in for goes to Villa, or Leeds for example.

It's just a function of where we are, but as a result we'll lose out on a lot of our top targets. And therefore progress may be slow. But if we can maintain our PL status whilst not spending much on wages (relatively) then great, just hope it doesn't catch up on us.
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I want a PS5

I'm prepared to pay £450 for a PS5

If they charge £600 for a PS5 then I am not buying one. I can afford to buy one but I'd rather spend my money somewhere else.

I am not missing out on a PS5 I'm making the reasoned decision that it simply isn't worth the money.
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
Teams who spend the most money, most of the time have better players and finish higher up

Teams who spend less money have poorer players than those who spend more

It Obviously isn't a fact but there is a direct correlation
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SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY
WEST HAM

Man City spend enough money to win the league but their defensive recruitment was not good enough. Money is irrelevant if you spent it unwisely.

Yes, we need to spend more. Everyone knows that. We've given our players new contracts since we've gone up. They will be improved year on year if we stay up. This is the sensible way to run a football club.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Compare their spend to the others they’re competing with over a couple of year period. Man City and Man Utd spent more so its not a certainty, you need to spent it wisely and have some talent.
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So do the
Nah den said:
Sigh. At the risk of going round in circles...we are missing out on him because we wanted him, had a bid accepted for him. The reason we're missing out on him is because Fulham are willing to pay a lot of money to an unproven kid and quite rightly we are not. But missing out on him we are.

I'm less bothered about this than someone like Cash, if he goes elsewhere or if a striker we've decided to go all in for goes to Villa, or Leeds for example.

It's just a function of where we are, but as a result we'll lose out on a lot of our top targets. And therefore progress may be slow. But if we can maintain our PL status whilst not spending much on wages (relatively) then great, just hope it doesn't catch up on us.
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Repeat with Ramsdale i can see on the horizon if Villa really do want him
 
robbiez666 said:
I want a PS5

I'm prepared to pay £450 for a PS5

If they charge £600 for a PS5 then I am not buying one. I can afford to buy one but I'd rather spend my money somewhere else.

I am not missing out on a PS5 I'm making the reasoned decision that it simply isn't worth the money.
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I get it, I do. But you haven't got a PS5 now and any enjoyment you would have got from owning one is lost.

You decide to go for a PS4 instead, for £300, but low and behold someone from Birmingham has bought them all for £450. You had an opportunity to buy one for that but didn't want to spend more than £300.

And so on, and so on. You end up with a gameboy. Enjoy your gameboy.
 
Kevincarterversion2.0 said:
In spunking money away like this, Fulham have clearly learnt nothing from their last time in PL. And I agree, I think Scott Parker wont last five minutes in the job next season - especially if wages like this have been handed out.

We can't go on forever paying below the going rates for PL players. The board need to step up an support CW in this process (however gradual it may be).
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The overall deal for robinson is still a bargain , fulham have a much higher wage structure than us so its easier to sign players on higher wages



Signing one of the best full back prospects for pittance is not spunking money is it ?
 
robbiez666 said:
SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY
WEST HAM

Man City spend enough money to win the league but their defensive recruitment was not good enough. Money is irrelevant if you spent it unwisely.

Yes, we need to spend more. Everyone knows that. We've given our players new contracts since we've gone up. They will be improved year on year if we stay up. This is the sensible way to run a football club.
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Again im not saying every team who spends money will have sucess , Wednesday initially had sucess.

And they werent spending the most in the league plenty of other clubs have spent similar
 
Roygbiv said:
The idea that we should bring this guy in on double the wages of everyone else is madness however you look at it. We've always said we build slowly and that's what we will do. Bringing in Antonee Robinson on £50,000 a week is totally illogical for us as a club right now. All the players other than Egan and Lunny have happily signed a new contract in the past 12 months or so. Bringing in someone on double what they signed for would completely destroy the harmony of the club and morale of the players.
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I heard about Egan,but Lundstram thought he was a contract rebel ?
 
Mouth of the South said:
Well I'm just glad you're not holding the purse strings at Utd. Paying players unproven above Champ level who will start the season as understudies, even if they do have potential, £45k/week is wholly unreasonable IMHO. If Fulham want to blow huge amounts of money again then let them but I wouldn't want Utd to use this tactic which at best would be described as carefree and at worst, reckless
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Cavalier?
 
Kevincarterversion2.0 said:
In spunking money away like this, Fulham have clearly learnt nothing from their last time in PL. And I agree, I think Scott Parker wont last five minutes in the job next season - especially if wages like this have been handed out.

We can't go on forever paying below the going rates for PL players. The board need to step up an support CW in this process (however gradual it may be).
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What is wrong with spending money if it is there on the right players?

Where Fulham went wrong last time is spending it on foreign mercenaries that didn't have it in them for a relegation scrap.

They have Scott Parker who is a good young English manager in charge that will identify the players that he wants that he thinks can improve the squad.

Robinson has a lot of potential and could go far and if Fulham are paying 45k I would think they are looking at putting him at LB and pushing Bryan further forward.

But even so they will have got a bargain for 1.9m and low wages in Premier league terms.
 
Not been the best of days today transfer wise, missing out on Robinson and Swift staying!

As for Robinson, he's undoubtedly a good player and one that would have given genuine competition for Enda and more attacking threat. But, it seems he's gone for more money at Fulham and I didn't sit that well with the fact he had a relegation release clause of just £2m in the first place, but that's probably more common these days than ever these days. Also his interview which came out last week, if it was actually taken from last week, spoke volumes that his agent does the talking/makes the decision that's best for his client, (yes that's an agents job) but I would rather a player dictate to the agent what club he wants from the options he has and then get the agent to negotiate the best deal. Maybe that' what's happened for all I know but it sounded from the interview that essentially it was a case of him leaving it to his agent to get the best possible wage for him and that's where he'll go. From a football perspective I can't see how joining Fulham is likely to be a better place for his development than us. He's likely to be back up to Byran as others have said, I think he may well have been first choice for us as the season goes on, with Enda now 30. It seemed we were his preferred choice until Fulham's £45,000 came up.

We move on and Wilder will have another player up his sleeve of course, or maybe Norrington-Davies will get an opportunity now - at least in the pre-season to impress.
 

As I already posted (many posts above) - with his buyout, Robinson is almost a free agent. His real value is probably £8-10m, but Wigan will only get about £2m.

If we gave him £5m sign on and £20K a week for 3 years he would get £8.1m over that period. We would be paying a total of £7m up front and £20K a week.

To me, paying him the extra up front because he has got a very low buyout clause is not violating our wage structure and his £8.1m over 3 years would match Fulham’s £50K a week.

Of course, Chris may not think that he is worth £7m plus £20K a week and may only have been after him because he was a bargain at £2m.
 
OrderOfStGeorge said:
What is wrong with spending money if it is there on the right players?

Where Fulham went wrong last time is spending it on foreign mercenaries that didn't have it in them for a relegation scrap.

They have Scott Parker who is a good young English manager in charge that will identify the players that he wants that he thinks can improve the squad.

Robinson has a lot of potential and could go far and if Fulham are paying 45k I would think they are looking at putting him at LB and pushing Bryan further forward.

But even so they will have got a bargain for 1.9m and low wages in Premier league terms.
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Not sure where you get Parker is a good English manager from. Should have cruised the league with that squad.

Also since when did the US become non-foreign?
 
Upton_Blade said:
Not sure where you get Parker is a good English manager from. Should have cruised the league with that squad.

Also since when did the US become non-foreign?
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Having money does not necessarily guarantee you promotion as several clubs have found that out to their cost over the years.

As far as i can see I never said that Robinson was English so I don't get your point.

If you are referring to my mercenaries comment I am talking about the older foreign players that are coming towards the end of their careers in the top leagues.
 
Upton_Blade said:
Not sure where you get Parker is a good English manager from. Should have cruised the league with that squad.

Also since when did the US become non-foreign?
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Promotion from the champ in your first season is not to but sniffed at
 
ucandomagic said:
As I already posted (many posts above) - with his buyout, Robinson is almost a free agent. His real value is probably £8-10m, but Wigan will only get about £2m.

If we gave him £5m sign on and £20K a week for 3 years he would get £8.1m over that period. We would be paying a total of £7m up front and £20K a week.

To me, paying him the extra up front because he has got a very low buyout clause is not violating our wage structure and his £8.1m over 3 years would match Fulham’s £50K a week.

Of course, Chris may not think that he is worth £7m plus £20K a week and may only have been after him because he was a bargain at £2m.
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Why would you give the new kid more money in one day than what the majority of our players have earned in their careers so far? Its bonkers and makes no sense. How is that going to make the rest of the squad feel? Make him an offer, if he and his agent want to line their pockets elsewhere then so be it, but giving someone a £5m payday just for signing is barking mad. What if he turns out to be shite? Make him pay it back?
 
Chabuddy G said:
They aren’t though
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The majority of teams have players on 20k a week in the championship you even have some on much larger wages than that.

I mean i saw a post saying Sam Winnall was given a 28k a week contract at the pigs that says it all a bang average player like that on top money for the league.
 
OrderOfStGeorge said:
The majority of teams have players on 20k a week in the championship you even have some on much larger wages than that.

I mean i saw a post saying Sam Winnall was given a 28k a week contract at the pigs that says it all a bang average player like that on top money for the league.
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You said most championship players are on 20k, they aren’t
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
The overall deal for robinson is still a bargain , fulham have a much higher wage structure than us so its easier to sign players on higher wages



Signing one of the best full back prospects for pittance is not spunking money is it ?
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I’m frustrated to miss out as he looks a decent prospect. Good luck to Fulham, they have a multi-billionaire owner and can afford to take a punt on a signing like this due to the low transfer fee. We have to run our club in a more sustainable manner. We sign Robinson on £50k per week, who isn’t even guaranteed to start for us remember, and overnight we have 10-15 first team players wanting to double their wages. It’s an insane way to try and run a club unless you have a sugar daddy prepared to write endless cheques.
 
I'll be gutted if we miss out on him, he's exactly the sort of exciting potential we should be bidding for.
 
Upton_Blade said:
Not sure where you get Parker is a good English manager from. Should have cruised the league with that squad.

Also since when did the US become non-foreign?
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Robinson is from Buckinghamshire, like our Greek RWB.
 

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