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Would rather knock it down entirely and start from scratch but I don't know how far HRH is prepared to go regarding stadium redevelopments as it would be more expensive this way. But if so it would probably have to come out of the PL revenue as I don't think he can or will out of his own money.

This is all if HRH is still the owner by the time we do redevelop that is.
 
I understand the reservations what with the poor leg room and too gentle a slope, but this really is the best we're going to get. It must be a cost effective development and knocking down the whole kop to build a steeper structure on the same footprint won't increase capacity.

Get it built
 
Danny_Blade said:
Would rather knock it down entirely and start from scratch but I don't know how far HRH is prepared to go regarding stadium redevelopments as it would be more expensive this way. But if so it would probably have to come out of the PL revenue as I don't think he can or will out of his own money.

This is all if HRH is still the owner by the time we do redevelop that is.
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Why ?
 
bladesmanluke said:
I understand the reservations what with the poor leg room and too gentle a slope, but this really is the best we're going to get. It must be a cost effective development and knocking down the whole kop to build a steeper structure on the same footprint won't increase capacity.

Get it built
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Don't need legroom for safe standing...

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Danny_Blade said:
I meant nothing by it in particular.

Just saying that we don't know HRH's long term intentions etc. We don't really know if he wants to sell us on or not now that he's got sole control and the ownership of the assets have been resolved?
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He's already said he has no plans to sell
 
Booker4 said:
I think this has been debated before and, regardless, nothing is gonna happen until the Prince and McCabe sort out the assets, and what with corona, this may not be a quick solution sadly! I have no idea on the latter bit though, just guessing.
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Err, I think there’s some catching up for you to do ;)
 
Booker4 said:
Lets build the new red wall! ;)
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I'm 6' 1" and stand at the back of the Kop due to the legroom, and i struggle to see if there a goalmouth scramble at the kop end.
If theres a steeper rake towards the rear in the new section I'd definitely like a move there.

Edit: this was in reference to your last paragraph before you edited.
 
This should be a priority. Facilities are desperately outdated and we should be looking to grow attendences with a sensible ticketing policy while ever we're in the premier league.

If they're going to just build on the back of the stand it should be a two tier structure (similar to villa's holte end). It would look a lot better and allow for proper sight lines from the top.

But I do think consideration should be given to a full stand replacement, with safe standing included.
 
s4-blade said:
Err, I think there’s some catching up for you to do ;)
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Just realised! Great news!

"When I assumed sole ownership of the Club nine months ago, I committed myself to preserving the Club's heritage, upgrading the Club's physical assets and improving the fan experience. The Covid-19 pandemic has certainly brought unexpected challenges but we remain dedicated to our original strategy and bringing the stadium and other properties under the ownership of the Club is an important step in executing on this strategy. We now look forward to capitalising on this important step as we establish the Blades in the Premier League. We'll have more good news soon."

I wonder if the last bit in the statement where he says we'll have more good news soon maybe the Kop extension!?
 
Booker4 said:
Just realised! Great news!

"When I assumed sole ownership of the Club nine months ago, I committed myself to preserving the Club's heritage, upgrading the Club's physical assets and improving the fan experience. The Covid-19 pandemic has certainly brought unexpected challenges but we remain dedicated to our original strategy and bringing the stadium and other properties under the ownership of the Club is an important step in executing on this strategy. We now look forward to capitalising on this important step as we establish the Blades in the Premier League. We'll have more good news soon."

I wonder if the last bit in the statement where he says we'll have more good news soon maybe the Kop extension!?
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Pretty sure that’ll be part of it. The chairman Mu’saud has said that a modest expansion of about 5000 and the removal of the pillars is in the short to medium term plans. Think the new training ground at norton (unless they’ve found somewhere else since) will be first though.
 
Tracey Kelly said:
This should be a priority. Facilities are desperately outdated and we should be looking to grow attendences with a sensible ticketing policy while ever we're in the premier league.

If they're going to just build on the back of the stand it should be a two tier structure (similar to villa's holte end). It would look a lot better and allow for proper sight lines from the top.

But I do think consideration should be given to a full stand replacement, with safe standing included.
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With respect Tracey, the one thing we don't want is a two tired stand. Firstly, and mainly, because it no longer becomes a Kop if its double tiered, or if you are of the opinion that you'll still have a Kop, but with a further top tier, then to me that then detracts from the rest of the Kop, and also, we have a problem as it is with getting the whole Kop to sing as one, often with the same chant seconds behind each other, depending on what part of the Kop you're on, but with two tiers that would be even worse surely?
 



Tracey Kelly said:
This should be a priority. Facilities are desperately outdated and we should be looking to grow attendences with a sensible ticketing policy while ever we're in the premier league.

If they're going to just build on the back of the stand it should be a two tier structure (similar to villa's holte end). It would look a lot better and allow for proper sight lines from the top.

But I do think consideration should be given to a full stand replacement, with safe standing included.
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I believe there would be planning issues if the stand was double tier due to the height that it would be?
 
That's why the away fans are now only on the lower tier of the BLS 👍
 
Booker4 said:
With respect Tracey, the one thing we don't want is a two tired stand. Firstly, and mainly, because it no longer becomes a Kop if its double tiered, or if you are of the opinion that you'll still have a Kop, but with a further top tier, then to me that then detracts from the rest of the Kop, and also, we have a problem as it is with getting the whole Kop to sing as one, often with the same chant seconds behind each other, depending on what part of the Kop you're on, but with two tiers that would be even worse surely?
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It wouldn't be ideal, but if they are intent on doing it on the cheap (again) by just building behind it, a two-tiered stand would look a lot better aesthetically than the visuals put forward. And it would provide better views from the new seats.

Atmosphere is certainly another key consideration, and i take your point that having two tiers may not be the ideal solution from this perspective. But issues with singing as one surely just go with the territory for big stands. I'm not sure how tangible it'd be to say a two-tiered stand would worsen atmosphere, especially when full. And if it was half empty then atmosphere would suffer regardless of design.

Of course having two tiers wouldn't be a 'Kop', and if we're precious about this as a club then that is perhaps why it is proposed the way it is. These were McCabe's plans and maybe HRH would have a different vision.

The ideal would be to build an entire new stand, with a steep single tier and safe standing.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
And plan to fill the corner with seats/Corporate/TV rather than an office block with the South Stand improvement planned for next season should we stay up again.
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The TV studio is there now. Putting seats in there would actually reduce the capacity because the kop and south stand currently overlap. So to create a corner stand you’d have to lose a block off of both.
 
robbiez666 said:
I'd rather we prioritised getting a squad, development squad, improving the academy and training facilities and establishing a global scouting system to be honest. No point having a fancy stadium in the Championship.
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Apart from building the fan base for long term stability regardless of the league we’re in?
 
s4-blade said:
The TV studio is there now. Putting seats in there would actually reduce the capacity because the kop and south stand currently overlap. So to create a corner stand you’d have to lose a block off of both.
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I said to do it when the South Stand is developed so you wouldn’t need to reduce the block. It can also go back over the walkway to the Kop and south stand.
 
Booker4 said:
Just realised! Great news!

"When I assumed sole ownership of the Club nine months ago, I committed myself to preserving the Club's heritage, upgrading the Club's physical assets and improving the fan experience. The Covid-19 pandemic has certainly brought unexpected challenges but we remain dedicated to our original strategy and bringing the stadium and other properties under the ownership of the Club is an important step in executing on this strategy. We now look forward to capitalising on this important step as we establish the Blades in the Premier League. We'll have more good news soon."

I wonder if the last bit in the statement where he says we'll have more good news soon maybe the Kop extension!?
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Investment?
 



Flatulent_Bob said:
Apart from building the fan base for long term stability regardless of the league we’re in?
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Yes. Because there isn’t a huge financial advantage in having an extra £10k capacity. It’s only a small part of our income when we’re in the PL and we won’t fill it if we’re in the championship.

Do you honestly think that it’s more important than improving the first team and squad, sorting out the academy and developing our scouting network? Or do you think we’ve got the money to do all of these things?
 
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