Message to the Prince...

[BigBed]

Thankyou!

 

[8lade]

Andrew?

 

[TAMUS]

شكرا جزيلا
shukraan jazilaan

شكرا جزيلا


شكرا جزيلا
shukraan jazilaan



شكرا جزيلا
shukraan jazilaan

شكرا جزيلا

 

[184blade]

Certainly agree with you, cant argue with what the club has announced.
although it seems every time the prince makes a move these days McCabe try’s to undermine it by putting his spin on things so I’m looking forward to Seeing how he can portray this in a negative light.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Got to say, while HRH is holding the purse strings, I personally feel it's Stephen Bettis who is steering our ship and getting these decisions right.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

May be doing him a big mis service here, but can't help wondering if Mr McCabe was still in charge,, how many of the present day squad would have been sold by now ?

 

[madeinsheffield]

May be doing him a big mis service here, but can't help wondering if Mr McCabe was still in charge,, how many of the present day squad would have been sold by now ?

You can almost hear the words "we couldn't stand in his way", followed by "we already have his replacement at the club".

Shudder

 

[BigBed]

You can almost hear the words "we couldn't stand in his way", followed by "we already have his replacement at the club".

Shudder

Unless were talking about Ravel......

 

[s4-blade]

Got to say, while HRH is holding the purse strings, I personally feel it's Stephen Bettis who is steering our ship and getting these decisions right.

Best Chief Exec in football, can see why Wilder wanted him back so much. And the prince is letting him do his job, which would never have happened under McCabe.

 

[JohnDenver]

I’m still worried that we’re racking up debt, especially given the pandemic. But on the assumption that’s being done prudently, I can’t fault the club’s decision making at the moment.

 

[Worksop II]

Got to say, while HRH is holding the purse strings, I personally feel it's Stephen Bettis who is steering our ship and getting these decisions right.

Agree with that, and maybe the Prince has got the common sense not to stop his wages

unlike someone else .......

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I’m still worried that we’re racking up debt, especially given the pandemic. But on the assumption that’s being done prudently, I can’t fault the club’s decision making at the moment.

What are you thinking is driving that JD? General running costs plus the costs to extend the contracts without the crowd income being there to cover it?
I'd guess this is likely to be funded by reducing our transfer budget, and we're used to covering running costs for a couple of months normally during the close season, which is going to be significantly reduced this year. My personal view is that we should look to loan given the record low interest rates at the moment, coupled with the fact there is going to be more value in the market this summer than normal, so we could take advantage of that if our transfer budgets were unaffected.
It's also a good time to borrow to upgrade the ground but that's another topic, but given the announcement on prices keeping us cheaper than those others across the city there are strong opportunities to increase fan base and improve facilities further increasing matchday revenues once we reopen.

 

[PaulHalfway]

We will pick up another 110 million from sky next season, it may mean to cover these current losses a reduced transfer budget will have to be in place for next season, but still a substantial amount of money to keep the club in a fantastic position

 

[JohnDenver]

What are you thinking is driving that JD? General running costs plus the costs to extend the contracts without the crowd income being there to cover it?
I'd guess this is likely to be funded by reducing our transfer budget, and we're used to covering running costs for a couple of months normally during the close season, which is going to be significantly reduced this year. My personal view is that we should look to loan given the record low interest rates at the moment, coupled with the fact there is going to be more value in the market this summer than normal, so we could take advantage of that if our transfer budgets were unaffected.
It's also a good time to borrow to upgrade the ground but that's another topic, but given the announcement on prices keeping us cheaper than those others across the city there are strong opportunities to increase fan base and improve facilities further increasing matchday revenues once we reopen.

We know the Prince isn’t a sugar daddy. We know we invested fairly heavily in the last 2 windows. Then Covid arrived.

I’m not opposed to borrowing against future income at all (as you say, rates are low). Nor am I an accountant or businessman. But I know relegations end badly for heavily indebted clubs, and we were certainly stretching ourselves just before Covid.

So it’s just an awareness of how reliant we are on Wilder to keep the club thriving. And I’m heavily predisposed to anxiety.

 

[Carlton Blade]

We know the Prince isn’t a sugar daddy. We know we invested fairly heavily in the last 2 windows. Then Covid arrived.

I’m not opposed to borrowing against future income at all (as you say, rates are low). Nor am I an accountant or businessman. But I know relegations end badly for heavily indebted clubs, and we were certainly stretching ourselves just before Covid.

So it’s just an awareness of how reliant we are on Wilder to keep the club thriving. And I’m heavily predisposed to anxiety.

If we were to just keep all the players we want this summer (including Retsos), potentially have 1 academy graduate make the squad and spend no more than £10m total (outside the Retsos fee) on new players I'd be more than happy

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

We know the Prince isn’t a sugar daddy. We know we invested fairly heavily in the last 2 windows. Then Covid arrived.

I’m not opposed to borrowing against future income at all (as you say, rates are low). Nor am I an accountant or businessman. But I know relegations end badly for heavily indebted clubs, and we were certainly stretching ourselves just before Covid.

So it’s just an awareness of how reliant we are on Wilder to keep the club thriving. And I’m heavily predisposed to anxiety.

Agree with all that. What you need is a steady hand on the tiller, and I would dearly hope we would look to retain Bettis for the long term, and if we are relegated at some point we plan sensibly rather than looking to blow a 3 year budget on an instantly return. Using his management of the club so far, I'm hopeful that this wouldn't be the case.

 

[skyjam]

with Chris Wilder at the helm I'm excited to see HIM pushing us forward to things we never thought was possible !
and i am a pessimist!!!!!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

If we were to just keep all the players we want this summer (including Retsos), potentially have 1 academy graduate make the squad and spend no more than £10m total (outside the Retsos fee) on new players I'd be more than happy

I just think the squad needs filling out, especially if we're competing on more fronts, coupled with the fact that I think we've been rather fortunate on injuries this year.
When you look at the financial state of the Championship and some of the other European leagues, I genuinely believe there will be a one off opportunity to recruit from these areas in a significantly suppressed market which is what we've done under Wilder, so it should keep the squad harmony and balance.
I am fully aware "genuine, one off opportunities" are normally what mot people say before losing their shirt on a gamble.

 

[bladesince64]

Absolutely agree with all the plaudits for the Prince as he has the final say on all things financial. Nobody can ever say he hasn't backed the manager. Did any of us honestly think we'd spend £20+ in multiple players. I certainly didn't. McCabe always seemed to favour tighter budget controls and short termism.
I get the impression that Wilder and Bettis will never over pay and would nail a good deal or just walk. Nice feeling to know the club is in such safe hands.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Absolutely agree with all the plaudits for the Prince as he has the final say on all things financial. Nobody can ever say he hasn't backed the manager. Did any of us honestly think we'd spend £20+ in multiple players. I certainly didn't. McCabe always seemed to favour tighter budget controls and short termism.
I get the impression that Wilder and Bettis will never over pay and would nail a good deal or just walk. Nice feeling to know the club is in such safe hands.

Was McCabe here when Clough was building an American Football sized squad mainly consisting of midgets?

 

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[bromtom]

I just think the squad needs filling out, especially if we're competing on more fronts, coupled with the fact that I think we've been rather fortunate on injuries this year.
When you look at the financial state of the Championship and some of the other European leagues, I genuinely believe there will be a one off opportunity to recruit from these areas in a significantly suppressed market which is what we've done under Wilder, so it should keep the squad harmony and balance.
I am fully aware "genuine, one off opportunities" are normally what mot people say before losing their shirt on a gamble.

If we keep the loanees, we need a RWB to actually compete with Baldock (K.Freeman is just an understudy nowadays, plays in the cup but hasn't been close to the Prem), a CB to cover/compete with Egan, a young striker to develop (if we get a good offer from WBA for Robinson), and we need to invest in the GK department, if we can't loan or buy Henderson, a mid 20s first choice, and if Verrips isn't up to much, an older back up in the realms of Ben Foster (not Joe Hart please for God's sake)

 

[BigBed]

If we were to just keep all the players we want this summer (including Retsos), potentially have 1 academy graduate make the squad and spend no more than £10m total (outside the Retsos fee) on new players I'd be more than happy

Is that dependent on Henderson Staying or not??

 

[finlaytheblade]

I think we are in decent financial position and didnt overspend in the window.That would have been foolish as we could still have been relegated at that point wilder has always said he wouldnt put the clubs future in jeapody.
Covid brings a new ball game and budgets will be smaller which means we cut our cloth accordingly.Cant see no financial risk taken but european football will put more pressure on having a bigger pool of 1st team players.I'm sure decisions will be taken within safe financial parameters
,cant see Wilder changing his views on that I imagine the owners feel the same way.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

We will pick up another 110 million from sky next season, it may mean to cover these current losses a reduced transfer budget will have to be in place for next season, but still a substantial amount of money to keep the club in a fantastic position

Don’t forget Champions League money

 

[Carlton Blade]

Is that dependent on Henderson Staying or not??

Completely forgot about that! Yes it is

 

[LoughboroBlade]

If we keep the loanees, we need a RWB to actually compete with Baldock (K.Freeman is just an understudy nowadays, plays in the cup but hasn't been close to the Prem), a CB to cover/compete with Egan, a young striker to develop (if we get a good offer from WBA for Robinson), and we need to invest in the GK department, if we can't loan or buy Henderson, a mid 20s first choice, and if Verrips isn't up to much, an older back up in the realms of Ben Foster (not Joe Hart please for God's sake)

Agreed. If either Bournemouth or Watford go down I’d be more than happy with us picking up Foster as a low risk and cheap option, or better still trying to coax Bournemouth into parting with Ramsdale.

 

[Sean Thornton]

May be doing him a big mis service here, but can't help wondering if Mr McCabe was still in charge,, how many of the present day squad would have been sold by now ?

If that’s all you have to worry about.....

 

[s4-blade]

If we keep the loanees, we need a RWB to actually compete with Baldock (K.Freeman is just an understudy nowadays, plays in the cup but hasn't been close to the Prem), a CB to cover/compete with Egan, a young striker to develop (if we get a good offer from WBA for Robinson), and we need to invest in the GK department, if we can't loan or buy Henderson, a mid 20s first choice, and if Verrips isn't up to much, an older back up in the realms of Ben Foster (not Joe Hart please for God's sake)

Keeper (preference Henderson)
RWB to replace Freeman
Panos Retsos
Jagielka another year
Midfielder to replace Besic
Striker to replace Leon Clarke and maybe another to replace Zivkovic (if we don’t keep Robinson)
Possibly an attacking midfielder

The championship (and european leagues) will be full of value this window this window so we could probably do all that for under £30m.

 

[bromtom]

Keeper (preference Henderson)
RWB to replace Freeman
Panos Retsos
Jagielka another year
Midfielder to replace Besic
Striker to replace Leon Clarke and maybe another to replace Zivkovic (if we don’t keep Robinson)
Possibly an attacking midfielder

The championship (and european leagues) will be full of value this window this window so we could probably do all that for under £30m.

Yeah, I forgot about Leon going, if Robinson comes back in good form then we're OK there probably or we could sell for good money and reinvest, I'd like us to find a "Young Bill" style poacher striker to develop.

Jags I don't know, I'd still like another CB, if Egan is unavailable for a length of time, we'd need more cover than just Jags.

I agree that we can probably get what we need at a good price though, especially from Championship teams that have overreached, QPR always have to sell for example because they're always on a knife's edge financially.