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Yes mate the £100 was probably spent stockpiling shit rolls etc shame they can't eat Andrex innit
The club is already having a cash flow problem so cant see any rebates any time soon.
Maybe the club will come up with some kind of deal for next season on season tickets.
I would assume though ! everything's up in the air till some kind of way forward to start playing again.
 

I think they will offer refunds to be honest. With people short of money at the moment, it’ll be the right PR move.
Then people should refuse it 75 quid etc is better in clubs hands and like someone said freeze tickets
 
Looks like I have ruffled a few feathers on this thread, all those moaning for refunds you might miss seeing 4 games (FOUR) and a reduced price cup game. Now let me get this right the vast majority of you will hold a season ticket which was budgeted for and paid for last season with hopefully what you call disposable income. Seems to me that now some are saying it was not so disposable ..................... well more fool you if you have over stretched your finances, you fault, your problem.
For those of you saying I must be able to afford the loss well yes I can, I budgeted my outgoings before spending on a season ticket, roof over your head and food on the table being top priority. Also it is prudent to save a bit for a rainy day to get you through the bad times, I learnt this the hard way when my ex left me with a load of debt.
I'm not actually well off I packed work in 3 years ago to care for a relative so I get by on my savings and £67 a week carers allowance as my pension doesn't start until mid 2021.
I do feel to the people just starting a business but not the ones who are established and have been tax dodging self employed for years a bit like my brother in law who won't be able to have his four jaunts to the Canaries on top of his main holiday this year. Maybe next year they will put more than £15k through the books and not trouser the other £30k just a thought?
The way I look at it I paid my money up front so its gone but I have still had my moneys worth from SUFC, if I have to watch the last few games on TV I ain't going to bleat about it and I will not lose my home or starve if I don't get a refund. Like I said if you are that desperate now for refunds then it is your own fault and you are arseholes.

We all might be arseholes but there’s only one person on this thread acting like a prick
 
I won’t be asking or accepting a refund. Each person is different but I buy my season ticket to help the club. I have enough spare income to allow the club to keep my money.

Understand others may be different and want a refund.
 
And who decides which 5000 of our 30k season ticket holders get to attend? -it would have to be the famous points system surely? Given that I have over 70,000 points I guess I would get allocated a seat?

I suspect that the folks with the most loyalty points are those that have been going longest and are therefore more likely to be in the "elderly" age bracket. I've got over 50,000 loyalty points and am in my early 60's. If you've got over 70,000 loyalty points, you'll have nothing to worry about. You'll be in the age bracket that the government stops from leaving the house in any case so tha'll be going nowhere! ;)
 
Any knowledge about refunds for Arsenal and Newcastle tickets?

I'm not one of those interested in season ticket refunds for the remaining missed matches whatsoever, but I shelled out well over a ton for mine and family tickets for these games and wouldn't expect to foot that cost when they clearly won't be played in front of sell out crowds.
 
Any knowledge about refunds for Arsenal and Newcastle tickets?

I'm not one of those interested in season ticket refunds for the remaining missed matches whatsoever, but I shelled out well over a ton for mine and family tickets for these games and wouldn't expect to foot that cost when they clearly won't be played in front of sell out crowds.

Until an official decision to restart don't expect any update. Even though it's blindingly obvious it will be behind closed doors.
 
Any knowledge about refunds for Arsenal and Newcastle tickets?

I'm not one of those interested in season ticket refunds for the remaining missed matches whatsoever, but I shelled out well over a ton for mine and family tickets for these games and wouldn't expect to foot that cost when they clearly won't be played in front of sell out crowds.

What's the difference between the Arsenal match and season tickets? Surely if you are happy for the club to keep your money for season tickets, then why not let them keep the Arsenal ticket money as well?
 
Until an official decision to restart don't expect any update. Even though it's blindingly obvious it will be behind closed doors.

Just my opinion but I don't think we'll see crowds at football at least until 2021. Large gatherings in crowded spaces like football, concerts etc will be the last thing that's allowed and only once we have nationwide testing or a vaccine.
 
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Some suggestion on the radio today that when crowds are allowed back at football grounds like ours may be limited to temporary capacity of around 5000 with fans spread out around the stadium.. may as well play behind closed doors as do that there would be no atmosphere to speak of. And who decides which 5000 of our 30k season ticket holders gets to attend.

(TBH I’m getting more and more certain that it will be next year 2021 before crowds are allowed back)

The question is, at what point do we take the brakes off completely and allow total relaxation of social distancing rules? If the answer to that is, when we have a vaccine, then that is potentially years away, because it's not just finding an effective vaccine, it's then putting a national programme of immunisation in place. I missed a bit out, it's also about having a "safe" vaccine. We won't know that until hundreds of thousands of people have been immunised. So, there's a risk, but for those most at risk from coronavirus it's probably a risk worth taking.

I doubt we will see a complete "brakes off" approach to social distancing for a long, long time. I think we will see a gradual easing of restrictions, for some, starting next month. I think there are 3 things that will drive this:

  • Reduction in the infection rate
  • Availability of effective tests to detect who has got it or had it
  • NHS resources
The number of new reported cases of infection are falling, which is a good sign, but the key statistic is how transmissible the infection remains? This is something that we've been hearing a lot more about of late, expressed as the R value. If the R value is 1, it means that for every person infected they will pass it on to at least 1 more person. If it is more than 1 then you have a likelihood of exponential spread of the infection, if it's below 1 then you don't. It's currently trending below 1 in the UK, which is also good news, although we have to remember that this doesn't tell us the consequences, e.g. mortality, from it being spread further, it's just about the how likely it is for others to get it from another person. There will be no relaxation of social distancing rules unless the R value remains below 1 for a sustained period of time. What is a sustained period of time? I don't think anyone would stick their neck out on that one - but I do think that if the R value remains below 1 over the next 3 weeks this will be a big factor in considering easing social distancing rules.

The availability of effective tests could make a huge difference to social distancing policy. At present we've only tested a fraction of the population and prioritised this for NHS key workers, which I think is right. But it's a bit of a shambles that we haven't been capable of testing far more widely. I know there are issues with tests and they are in short supply etc., but frankly, we just weren't prepared. The reason why Germany has fared better than other European countries in handling COVID-19 is because they have mass tested the population and this is so important because it allows those who have it, to be kept away from those who haven't, and it allows those who have had it and built up immunity, to be free to socialise, return to work, etc. I hear we are working hard to increase the testing in the UK but we are still way behind where we wanted to be and I don't think we'll be in a position to know who's got it or had it, on a big enough scale, to inform a decision on complete relaxation of social distancing for many months to come yet.

So then it comes down to the NHS resources, put another way, the ability of the NHS to cope. And that's the main reason why the lock down was enforced in the first place, because without it, the NHS would have been overwhelmed, in London particularly. What we've seen over the past few weeks are great improvements in terms of the number of available ICU beds and staffing levels. At the moment it looks like we do have some spare capacity to deal with the current rate of infections, providing they don't shoot up again (which is why the R value is so important). But it's disturbing that those who are risking their lives to help others don't have enough protective equipment! This in particular has to be fixed over the coming weeks and I think it will personally, and I think once we reach the point where we have both capacity in terms of beds and staff and protective equipment, this will lead to some relaxation of social distancing rules, for some.

I think it's highly likely that those most at risk will remain under some restrictions and, because we won't know for definite who these people are, because we won't have tested enough people, the policy will be to put a blanket restriction by age group primarily and that age group is likely to be over 70's. Which is pretty unfair if you're a fit and sprightly 70 year old with no serious underlying health problems, but in the absence of a safe, effective vaccine and widespread testing, that's about the only rational solution, in the short term, to allow a relaxation of social distancing whilst protecting those thought to be most vulnerable.

I can see shops, businesses, being opened from next month. Maybe pubs being opened from June onwards and possibly relaxation on foreign travel to and from some parts of the world. But what does it mean for football?

I don't see how it is going to work, opening up football stadia but only letting 10% or less of the capacity to attend. There's still a risk with that in any case, people mingle going to and from the game and inside the stadia. Personally I think they will not relax social distancing rules for large events until after the end of summer. And then, depending on the 3 factors mentioned above, if the stats are looking healthy from that, we might be allowed to have large scale gatherings again.
 
What's the difference between the Arsenal match and season tickets? Surely if you are happy for the club to keep your money for season tickets, then why not let them keep the Arsenal ticket money as well?

Seeing as I'm not furloughed I may as well offer a contribution towards Berge's wages as well seeing as though he probably only earns a week something similar to what I do a year.

When you buy a season ticket you do so well in advance of each game knowing that work and personal events could potentially crop up, and there will be no refund for missed games.

I would have had the option to return my Arsenal and Newcastle tickets 24-48 hours before the games.

FWIW I believe refunds will be offered on at least Newcastle because I know of two people connected to difference supporters clubs who are gathering the tickets they bought in bulk to return.
 
Looks like I have ruffled a few feathers on this thread, all those moaning for refunds you might miss seeing 4 games (FOUR) and a reduced price cup game. Now let me get this right the vast majority of you will hold a season ticket which was budgeted for and paid for last season with hopefully what you call disposable income. Seems to me that now some are saying it was not so disposable ..................... well more fool you if you have over stretched your finances, you fault, your problem.
For those of you saying I must be able to afford the loss well yes I can, I budgeted my outgoings before spending on a season ticket, roof over your head and food on the table being top priority. Also it is prudent to save a bit for a rainy day to get you through the bad times, I learnt this the hard way when my ex left me with a load of debt.
I'm not actually well off I packed work in 3 years ago to care for a relative so I get by on my savings and £67 a week carers allowance as my pension doesn't start until mid 2021.
I do feel to the people just starting a business but not the ones who are established and have been tax dodging self employed for years a bit like my brother in law who won't be able to have his four jaunts to the Canaries on top of his main holiday this year. Maybe next year they will put more than £15k through the books and not trouser the other £30k just a thought?
The way I look at it I paid my money up front so its gone but I have still had my moneys worth from SUFC, if I have to watch the last few games on TV I ain't going to bleat about it and I will not lose my home or starve if I don't get a refund. Like I said if you are that desperate now for refunds then it is your own fault and you are arseholes.
There’s no way that SUFC will not recompense supporters at some point through one means or another.
As for ’budgeting nonsense.... every purchase I ever made I ’budgeted’ for.
I budgeted for flights in July,do I want a refund if the flights are cancelled ?.... we’ll yeah.
I budget for several pints when I go out,if a pint is bad do I want it exchanged? of course,
What is conspicuous from my budget plan is not receiving goods or services for my money,it’s a principle and not a manifestation of wealth or lack of it or even love of a football club.
We will all receive something at some stage wether we like it or not, it’s just good practice.
If you are adverse to the idea and you want to give it back to SUFC because you think they deserve it then spend it in the club shop.
 
As I said not long after the match v Newcastle was postponed. I think a discount on next years season ticket would be the best solution to compensate fans and it wouldn't require the club dipping into their pockets for actual money for refunds.

If anyone is not renewing for next season then that discount should be given as credit or gift card instead that can be used on future match day tickets, hospitality or merchandise.

We maybe a PL club but we are not an uber rich PL club. If it is around £100 refund per season ticket to over 20,000 holders then that works out at over 2 million quid the club has to shell out while next to no money is coming in. It works out even more once you factor in a refund on the FA cup match tickets as well.

I'd feel happier with a future discount than taking my money back off the club.
 
I fail to understand why people want refunds from SUFC for tickets for a game at Newcastle which surely are bought from NUFC. I also fail to see the point in moaning and whining for a refund from SUFC until the Gov't or the PL make a decision on the way forward.
SUFC are (believe it or not) not a bank to bail people out of financial difficulties they will have enough of their own right now much the same as everyone else. Wilder and Bettis have deferred any wages for 6 month to help out and pay the low paid staff in full, what a refreshing attitude and top marks to them. What this Covid19 virus has shown up is the selfish me me me attitude prevailant in this country from some quarters and the I want it and I want it now thinking. We may all get a refund in some form be it a reduction or freezing of prices for our next season tickets, wanting cash back this minute is never going to happen nor is SUFC liable to refund train or travel tickets, I just wish people would stop fucking whinging all the time, I will not be pressing the club to pay money into my bank account they will have enough problems without me adding to them, any form of refund is something for the future if it happens it happens, if it doesn't it doesn't.
 
As I understand it nobody is working at the lane and certainly not in the ticket office to give refunds, when that Changes we’ll have more idea what is happening with the rest of the season and season tickets for next year.
When the premier league has made a decision regarding the rest of the season I’m sure the club will make announcements. I can see that those people that are struggling and would welcome a refund may be getting frustrated but the clubs hands are tied.
 

I'm lucky enough that I don't need any possible refund. I'm still working albeit on slightly reduced hours, and my wife is working too. So I'm okay.

There will be those who are struggling financially and might need a refund if offered, and that's up to them. I wouldn't be the kind or person to judge another's choices in what may well be very trying times.

As others have said, if the club give me a discount I won't say no, but I won't be asking for one.
 
I fail to understand why people want refunds from SUFC for tickets for a game at Newcastle which surely are bought from NUFC. I also fail to see the point in moaning and whining for a refund from SUFC until the Gov't or the PL make a decision on the way forward.
SUFC are (believe it or not) not a bank to bail people out of financial difficulties they will have enough of their own right now much the same as everyone else. Wilder and Bettis have deferred any wages for 6 month to help out and pay the low paid staff in full, what a refreshing attitude and top marks to them. What this Covid19 virus has shown up is the selfish me me me attitude prevailant in this country from some quarters and the I want it and I want it now thinking. We may all get a refund in some form be it a reduction or freezing of prices for our next season tickets, wanting cash back this minute is never going to happen nor is SUFC liable to refund train or travel tickets, I just wish people would stop fucking whinging all the time, I will not be pressing the club to pay money into my bank account they will have enough problems without me adding to them, any form of refund is something for the future if it happens it happens, if it doesn't it doesn't.

Its you thats fucking whinging about people that could do with the money back whilst they are not getting paid anything. Ive got to wait until June for any money and still have business expenses and household expenses that that need paying £200 per month council tax for a start I could go on. I cant see that bothering any of the players If SUFC are that cash strapped and have 'enough problems' as you say surely the players would follow Wilder and Bettis lead. By the way I dont want a refund on my ST a discount on next seasons ST will do. But to some people that money would be of great use right now
SUFC are not a bank and nobody is expecting them to 'bail out' people in financial difficulties god knows Ive ploughed enough money into SUFC in over 50 years to bail SUFC out. Ive not seen anybody expecting a refund from SUFC for money from match tickets for the away game at NUFC that is sitting in their bank account or the train tickets for that game. As has already been said there is only one arsehole on this thread
 
If the club are so skint, then why aren't they utilising the Government's Job Retention Scheme?
 
In general. Football Clubs, particularly those at the "elite level", run a fucking insane business model. They are ridiculously risky businesses. Propped up by Sugar Daddy Ego Investments from every dodgy money source available. Money is spunked on transfer fees to buy modern day slaves. Who in turn are paid wages which often outstretch turnover. These Insane Business Model operations have no rainy day finances. Any that go bust now that the rains have come have only themselves to blame. They certainly should not be put on benefits & doled out by taxpayers. I don't have a Season Ticket & I don't need a refund.
Yep, check, check - I think that about covers it....
 
In general. Football Clubs, particularly those at the "elite level", run a fucking insane business model. They are ridiculously risky businesses. Propped up by Sugar Daddy Ego Investments from every dodgy money source available. Money is spunked on transfer fees to buy modern day slaves. Who in turn are paid wages which often outstretch turnover. These Insane Business Model operations have no rainy day finances. Any that go bust now that the rains have come have only themselves to blame. They certainly should not be put on benefits & doled out by taxpayers. I don't have a Season Ticket & I don't need a refund.
Yep, check, check - I think that about covers it....
That could be said for the self employed who seem to be the ones who cry the most when the money isn't coming in, you can tell who they are on this thread ha ha, should have put a bit aside for a rainy day and not had that third holiday abroad or bought that big flash car on the driveway that they can't really afford to run still it looks good to the neighbours.
I bet when this is all over some will put a bit more through the books and pay their tax on it you know enough to last them a few months if they can't work rather than trousering the majority of what the make.
 
That could be said for the self employed who seem to be the ones who cry the most when the money isn't coming in, you can tell who they are on this thread ha ha, should have put a bit aside for a rainy day and not had that third holiday abroad or bought that big flash car on the driveway that they can't really afford to run still it looks good to the neighbours.
I bet when this is all over some will put a bit more through the books and pay their tax on it you know enough to last them a few months if they can't work rather than trousering the majority of what the make.
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I'm very happy to disassociate myself from your comments.
 
That could be said for the self employed who seem to be the ones who cry the most when the money isn't coming in, you can tell who they are on this thread ha ha, should have put a bit aside for a rainy day and not had that third holiday abroad or bought that big flash car on the driveway that they can't really afford to run still it looks good to the neighbours.
I bet when this is all over some will put a bit more through the books and pay their tax on it you know enough to last them a few months if they can't work rather than trousering the majority of what the make.

Alright mate, we get it. You save money. Well done. Where shall I send your medal?

You clearly don’t understand that not every person can afford to put masses of money aside each month let alone enough to live on for months or more in case of something like this.
 
Announced last week that the club will fund all the wages of the non playing staff who are on furlough.

The last one I saw said the club had yet to decide whether to take advantage of the government scheme.
 
I fail to understand why people want refunds from SUFC for tickets for a game at Newcastle which surely are bought from NUFC. I also fail to see the point in moaning and whining for a refund from SUFC until the Gov't or the PL make a decision on the way forward.
SUFC are (believe it or not) not a bank to bail people out of financial difficulties they will have enough of their own right now much the same as everyone else. Wilder and Bettis have deferred any wages for 6 month to help out and pay the low paid staff in full, what a refreshing attitude and top marks to them. What this Covid19 virus has shown up is the selfish me me me attitude prevailant in this country from some quarters and the I want it and I want it now thinking. We may all get a refund in some form be it a reduction or freezing of prices for our next season tickets, wanting cash back this minute is never going to happen nor is SUFC liable to refund train or travel tickets, I just wish people would stop fucking whinging all the time, I will not be pressing the club to pay money into my bank account they will have enough problems without me adding to them, any form of refund is something for the future if it happens it happens, if it doesn't it doesn't.

Who's actually asked for cash back this minute ?
 
Who's actually asked for cash back this minute ?

Not sure anyone has.

I've said I don't expect (or want) anything back from my season ticket but do believe Arsenal and Newcastle ticket monies should be refundable.

I guess the ticket office isn't open so appreciate it can't be done at present but the fact an official decision hasnt been made on how those games will be played is irrelevant. You can always get a refund on away tickets and cup tickets up to 24-48 hours beforehand.

You commit your season ticket up front knowing it's non refundable.

In fairness to the club I'm confident refunds on Arsenal and Newcastle will be available in time.
 
That could be said for the self employed who seem to be the ones who cry the most when the money isn't coming in, you can tell who they are on this thread ha ha, should have put a bit aside for a rainy day and not had that third holiday abroad or bought that big flash car on the driveway that they can't really afford to run still it looks good to the neighbours.

FYI I havent taken a holiday abroad in over 5 years and I dont have a big flash car on the driveway and I couldnt give a fuck about what the neighbours think
 

The last one I saw said the club had yet to decide whether to take advantage of the government scheme.


You are correct it's very much open to interpretation, I read it as we aren't using the government scheme currently but might in the future.

That later date could've been the very next day and we're being paid the government money now, whilst avoiding the negative PR.
 

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