Sander Berge

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blader said:
He will be the embodiment of what Wilder is all about.

This guy is a champions league footballer, who has looked good in champions league games. This is not a gamble of a footballer, this is a properly talented boy that has not adjusted to our game yet. Just look at what Wilder has done with some of his signings: Fleck, Norwood, Baldock, Stevens, McBurnie etc and the vast improvements they have made (all of which bar Norwood looked like nobodies at the beginning)

I think Berge has been very average in every performance so far, below average in some cases. However, give him a year under our phenomenal manager and this guy will be a monster of a player.
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He seems to pass with not enough zip on the ball. Noticed it several times.
He's still very much getting up to speed though so I'm not going to criticise him.
 
Wasn't just Berge tbh. Everybody looked off the pace perhaps apart from Fat lad when he came on. Maybe its to do with the lack of game time with the winter break disrupting the flow 🤷‍♂️
 
I made some comments on the Luke Freeman thread, but the midfield trio were so far apart it was always going to be tough. I'd like to see the heat maps (or whatever they're called) in comparison to a our usual midfield 3 in a normal Premier league game to actually see if they were much further apart, because thats how it seemed.

Berge seemed to sit so deep that he was alongside Egan at times and Didsy was dropping really deep to help out.

I was really looking forward to seeing Berge in the Norwood role and on last nights performance, it didn't suit him. He wasn't able to affect the game in an attacking sense and whilst he saw lots of the ball, he was playing a lot of passes which were perhaps too safe. When he did try a ball which was designed to open Reading up, his range finder was way off and his passes were wasted.

I think for this season, he's better suited to that Right Central Midfield role that Lunny plays.
 
Maybe he’s a little overawed right now, don’t forget he’s only 21 and it’s his chance at the biggest league in the world. Also surrounded by a group of rowdy British and Irish lads (not knocking it) it’ll take some getting used to for a young Scandinavian
 
ShorehamRevolution said:
Maybe he’s a little overawed right now, don’t forget he’s only 21 and it’s his chance at the biggest league in the world. Also surrounded by a group of rowdy British and Irish lads (not knocking it) it’ll take some getting used to for a young Scandinavian
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He'll be reight.
 
Jon Bon II said:
Very slovenly. Needs to tighten the fuck up and look more urgent on the ball.

We had our Berge at the club all along - Basham! If Berge wants to progress, he'll do well to study the Geordie Beckenbauer.
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I was thinking last night, has Berge been bought as an eventual replacement for Bash. He has similar qualities, height and strength to play at the back, great running with the ball and good in the tackle.
 
From the clips we saw of Berge when he played for Genk and Norway, he seemed very comfortable on the ball and also at ease running past players from deep. That's quite risky though and I just wonder that he's playing it safe a lot because he doesn't want to lose the ball on one of those runs from deep. I think he's not confident yet to do that in a new team and also he's playing in a different system and league. As others have said, give him time and I'm sure he'll be a great addition.

As a sort of comparison, remember when Jan Aage joined Swindon he didn't score till about Christmas and then couldn't stop scoring for them! I think once he's got confidence in himself within the team and the system then we'll see why we spent so much money on him. He's still only 22 of course too.
 
Edinblade said:
I was thinking last night, has Berge been bought as an eventual replacement for Bash. He has similar qualities, height and strength to play at the back, great running with the ball and good in the tackle.
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That was my thought too when I saw Berge playing on the you tube clips I thought he'd be ideally suited to Bash's role, but at the same token he seems to have played deep centre mid and in time maybe he'll replace Norwood.
 
Sander Berge is absolutely outstanding. Dictates almost every Sheffield United move. It’s some claim. But he’s the closest I think I’ve seen to Busquets.”

That's from a reading fan
 



Booker4 said:
From the clips we saw of Berge when he played for Genk and Norway, he seemed very comfortable on the ball and also at ease running past players from deep. That's quite risky though and I just wonder that he's playing it safe a lot because he doesn't want to lose the ball on one of those runs from deep. I think he's not confident yet to do that in a new team and also he's playing in a different system and league. As others have said, give him time and I'm sure he'll be a great addition.

As a sort of comparison, remember when Jan Aage joined Swindon he didn't score till about Christmas and then couldn't stop scoring for them! I think once he's got confidence in himself within the team and the system then we'll see why we spent so much money on him. He's still only 22 of course too.
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I also think what we're seeing is a lad that is slowly playing his way into confidence and form, so he's probably consciously toning down some of the more risky elements of his game. I'm sure that in time we'll start to see more of those driving runs and quick turns that set up attacks.

I appear to be in a minority but I still believe he had a good game yesterday, overall. A better first half yes, but even with a weaker second half, still good. It's not likely to be a coincidence that as a team we were worse in the second half throughout the team (with the odd exception).

Just a final point. I see a lot of people making direct comparisons between Berge and Norwood. At first glance that may seem logical given that last night he played in the role that Norwood usually plays. I'd argue that those comparisons are futile though. Wilder wasn't trying to buy a carbon copy of Oliver Norwood when he brought Berge in. Why would he? You can only play one at a time in the current system. It is by design, not accident that Wilder has brought someone in who is not just 'another Norwood'. I think it's obvious that Berge is part of a gradual evolution in the way that we play but in the short term he will bring something different to Norwood, Fleck and Lundstram and give us additional options. You simply won't get like for like performances from any of them if and when they play each others roles (which is obviously rare anyway because we have such a specific way of playing with roles within that). I think Wilder will be looking toward developing the team into one which can control possession more in the Premier League, akin to the way we were able to a level down in the Championship. If that is the case then I believe Berge will bring a lot to the table and I'm looking forward to it.

I just hope as fans we can be patient with Berge and any other newbies for that matter; it must be tough coming into such a well-oiled machine and to make your mark immediately.
 
Yes, I think he's playing with reigns on at the moment. I don't know if CW has asked him to play this current 'safe' role or maybe it's just SB feeling his way in to PL football. Probably the latter and hopefully once he's adjusted we'll see some of his trademark runs with the ball.

Booker4 said:
From the clips we saw of Berge when he played for Genk and Norway, he seemed very comfortable on the ball and also at ease running past players from deep. That's quite risky though and I just wonder that he's playing it safe a lot because he doesn't want to lose the ball on one of those runs from deep. I think he's not confident yet to do that in a new team and also he's playing in a different system and league. As others have said, give him time and I'm sure he'll be a great addition.

As a sort of comparison, remember when Jan Aage joined Swindon he didn't score till about Christmas and then couldn't stop scoring for them! I think once he's got confidence in himself within the team and the system then we'll see why we spent so much money on him. He's still only 22 of course too.
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I thought he had a decent game, always showing for the ball, often not receving it and dropping into the back three when required.He faded in the last 15 mins which seemed abit odd for someone young.Long term I cant see him doing this role as he needs to pass to a playmaker to be effective and with our system he needs to get up and down.Unless Chris changes our style to a flat two in midfield.?
I thought the wing backs struggled last night with the physicality of their fullbacks,both never got going other than the goal and we started forcing the play to the forwards.
Norwich wont be easy on Saturday, I still think we need a win or two
Anyway Utb
 
His best performance (6.5/10) so far for Utd and looked much more comfortable playing centrally and in a more defensive position.

+'ves - he always showed for the ball and spread play well in the first half.

-'ves - tendency to pass sideways and backwards. Tired second half and his passing accuracy deteriorated

I agree with the earlier post that he may be most effective in a midfield two but CW seems fixed on the three for the time being.
 
Right, my immediate reaction would be 'Give him a fucking break', he's settling.

But to delve deeper, his quality's obvious. He looks class, that's his reputation, so we expected him to dominate, but he hasn't. He's looked a bit lost and out of his depth, which'd make sense, new country, new system etc.

Here's the thing though. He's 6'5", could (and will) be a beast, but he's so clean cut, he looks a little like a German exchange student, and is too polite and shy to get to the nitty gritty.

Let's get him bladdered. And more importantly, lets get him layed. Proper layed. Not a cute little mousey brown haired lass with glasses and a slight twinkle in her eye (as I'd imagine his childhood sweetheart is) but some proper Sheffield lasses. Not that wants wining and dining, just a Chubby's kebab (before and after).

Blades, bring out yer daughters, yer nieces, fuck it bring out yer wives, let's sort out Sander and he'll lead us into Europe!!
 
ormester said:
Sander Berge is absolutely outstanding. Dictates almost every Sheffield United move. It’s some claim. But he’s the closest I think I’ve seen to Busquets.”

That's from a reading fan
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Then that Reading fan can no more see what's actually taking place than some on here. So far the guy has been, to put it as accurately as possible, mediocre. Last night he was ordinary in an uninspired team performance.

If he's Busquets then Fleck is Messi.

I'd never seem him play before he signed so I can only go on the words of the others who say he's so great. But there's a gap as wide a Norwegian Canyon between how he's meant to be and what I've seen so far with my own eyes.

Maybe someday soon he will be terrific, I hope so, but I wish some people would stop pretending he already is. I imagine this is the problem of us actually signing a player that the hipsters like.
 
All the games he's been involved in have been tight affairs. I can imagine one game where the boys are 2 nil up and Berge thinks here we go. The team is looking good for the win and the shackles come off.
Or it could be where we are up against it and he takes the bull by the horns to get us out of it.
My point being it'll just click one day.
I've seen it before. It's happened to me when I used to play (both footy and cricket) you have that one game when it suddenly clicks, your gaffer says something like "I knew you could do it" and then your mentality/psychology changes and a better player comes out of it.. Sander will come good... I can see his confidence growing already.
 
guancheblade said:
There are 22 million reasons why we need to be sticking him in!
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Not if he's not doing it which he isn't as yet, Fleck , Norwood shoe ins for Saturday but the other midfield spot up for grabs.Imho I would pick them from this order.
Lunny
Freeman
Osbourne
Besic
Berge
Our first team isn't a place for learning your trade, come back when you've served your time and qualified.
 
gordoncharles said:
Then that Reading fan can no more see what's actually taking place than some on here. So far the guy has been, to put it as accurately as possible, mediocre. Last night he was ordinary in an uninspired team performance.

If he's Busquets then Fleck is Messi.

I'd never seem him play before he signed so I can only go on the words of the others who say he's so great. But there's a gap as wide a Norwegian Canyon between how he's meant to be and what I've seen so far with my own eyes.

Maybe someday soon he will be terrific, I hope so, but I wish some people would stop pretending he already is. I imagine this is the problem of us actually signing a player that the hipsters like.
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Totally disagree in the first half Berge was total quality he controlled midfield
 
ShorehamRevolution said:
Maybe he’s a little overawed right now, don’t forget he’s only 21 and it’s his chance at the biggest league in the world. Also surrounded by a group of rowdy British and Irish lads (not knocking it) it’ll take some getting used to for a young Scandinavian
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Or French lad
 
He needs time, but i dont think it should be in the first 11 atm.
I watched him very closely yesterday and what i found worrying was his movement/positioning. When he should/could of opted to find space in advanced positions to allow play to move forward instead he left the space and joined the back 3 meaning we really struggled to play forward or even playbthe ball im midfield at all because we had so few bodies/no support there.

We should be utilising him as a box to box player mid instead, at genk he used to link play and drive with the ball and we shouldnt be spending 20 mill to convert him to a defensive 5 yard sideways passer.
 
Feel quite sorry for Besic, what has he done wrong?
 



gordoncharles said:
Then that Reading fan can no more see what's actually taking place than some on here. So far the guy has been, to put it as accurately as possible, mediocre. Last night he was ordinary in an uninspired team performance.

If he's Busquets then Fleck is Messi.

I'd never seem him play before he signed so I can only go on the words of the others who say he's so great. But there's a gap as wide a Norwegian Canyon between how he's meant to be and what I've seen so far with my own eyes.

Maybe someday soon he will be terrific, I hope so, but I wish some people would stop pretending he already is. I imagine this is the problem of us actually signing a player that the hipsters like.
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It was the Reading fan that made that comment, I don't think many of us who have seen him think that, so far, but give the lad a fucking break.
 
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