CONFIRMED Callum Robinson joins West Brom on loan

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He's that good/shit (delete as appropriate) we have 3 threads currently on the go about him.
 
Mouth of the South said:
The reason why Utd should strive to finish the season as high in the league as possible rather than settling for not being relegated is because of the prize money awarded - see the 'Merit Payment in the table below from last season. The difference between say 7th (Wolves) and 16th (Southampton) is ~£17m, enough for a good player in itself and ignoring the correlation between finishing position and facility fees i.e. how often they're shown on tv. I'm not even going to mention the prize of a UEFA League place....

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Interesting figure about the Facility Fee. You will see Huddersfield were on 10 games and received 12.18m, the same as Southampton and Watford. Liverpool were on the most with 29 games and got 33.46m.

This year's contract is different due to the Amazon deal and also extra BT games over New Years Day and the Winter break weekends.

Excluding those two packages, we have so far been show FIVE times, (4 on Sky and one on BT) and we are not scheduled for any more until the end of March. Not sure how much the Amazon/New Years Day/Winter break weekend packages will be worth but the general Sky packages involve more games (for less money). The international TV amounts are going up but I suspect we will at best match that of those three who got 10 games last season.

There is a restriction on the number of games that the "big six" can be shown by Sky and BT but (including the selections for March) so far Man City have been picked 20 times, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man U and Tottenham 19 times and Chelsea 18 times. Interestingly, if Leicester finish in the top 3 this year and Arsenal finish lower than 8th, then Leicester will replace Arsenal as one of the big six for TV picks. Leicester have been picked 17 times so far.

Wolves by comparison have been shown 8 times on Sky but none on BT. Everton have been shown 11 times on Sky and 4 times on BT. The number of games we have been shown is the lowest of all clubs.

I can see only three more games of ours that will probably be selected for TV coverage and all home games - Wolves, Chelsea and Tottenham. Leicester away may be a possibility if their Champions League qualification attempt is on a knife edge but I doubt it.

Each merit payment place is worth about £1.9 m. Basically, therefore, we could be in a situation whereby we finish say 6th and because of the facility fee, we actually earn £5-6 million less than say Wolves finishing 7th. People say our income from Premier League payments this year is £140m but I think it will pan out to nearer £120m unless we put a concerted run together to finish in the top 4!
 
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carthesis said:
If anyone ever needed convincing about the UK broadcast love-in with the Top 6, particularly Liverpool, they need only look at the second column...

More positively, using that table as a basis, finishing anywhere in the top half of the table is likely to net United:

£34m (share) + approx. £17m (facility) + approx. £20m (minimum for top 10 merit) + £43m (international tv) + £5m (central) = £119m
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Posted my comment before I read yours. The share money will be less (due to less overall TV money in the current package); facility fee you have over estimated (see my comments in above post as to why), merit is worth about £1.9m a place so difference between 6th and 10th could be Mousset's fee!; international TV will be higher due to increased international tv monies but also higher up the table will result in more international tv monies (the base is £43m as previous but the extra money out of the deal is being done on merit); central commercial I am not sure about (this was the sponsorship with Barclays and others last year but I don't think the main sponsor has been replaced).
 
If WB are offering 6 million I'll take him there myself on a tuktuk
 
This would likely mean signing another striker then. Given Chris likes two on the bench.
 
I don't understand the sentiment of getting rid of Robinson at all. He is young, finding his feet at a higher level in an unfamiliar position. He clearly has talent, he is a good age, I see him as a perfect 1st team squad member who we can improve. Unless we need cash now to invest in better then I would much prefer him to stay and deveklop with us. Seems this is unlikely
 
fatpat said:
I don't understand the sentiment of getting rid of Robinson at all. He is young, finding his feet at a higher level in an unfamiliar position. He clearly has talent, he is a good age, I see him as a perfect 1st team squad member who we can improve. Unless we need cash now to invest in better then I would much prefer him to stay and deveklop with us. Seems this is unlikely
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He's not a striker and we don't play wingers? He looks lost much of the time. I suspect he was a McGoldrick replacement which hasn't paid off.
 
Wit saying on Twitter he'd have thought we'd replace Robinson if he's going anywhere.
 



Sheffield United’s Callum Robinson is set to become West Bromwich Albion’s first signing of the January transfer window in a loan move that suits all parties.

Robinson is expected to join Albion for the second half of the season, despite making 16 Premier League appearances so far in 2019-20, including nine starts. The forward was undergoing a medical this afternoon.

The former Aston Villa player’s last Premier League start came in a 2-0 defeat at Manchester City on December 29 and before then, he had not started since October in a 1-1 draw against West Ham.

He has scored one Premier League goal in a 2-2 draw at Chelsea in August.

The Athletic understands Robinson is close to completing the move to The Hawthorns but the switch is currently intended to be purely temporary.

Robinson is happy at Bramall Lane and his potential is highly regarded by manager Chris Wilder — the club broke their transfer record to sign the 24-year-old from Preston in July last year for a fee in the region of £7 million.

But the player is keen to play regular matches to ensure he can hit the ground running in pre-season this summer and Wilder has agreed to the move.

Robinson will provide Albion with extra pace in attack, where Hal Robson-Kanu has been Slaven Bilic’s first-choice option in recent weeks, backed up by Charlie Austin and Kenneth Zohore.
 
MobileBlade said:
Interesting figure about the Facility Fee. You will see Huddersfield were on 10 games and received 12.18m, the same as Southampton and Watford. Liverpool were on the most with 29 games and got 33.46m.

This year's contract is different due to the Amazon deal and also extra BT games over New Years Day and the Winter break weekends.

Excluding those two packages, we have so far been show FIVE times, (4 on Sky and one on BT) and we are not scheduled for any more until the end of March. Not sure how much the Amazon/New Years Day/Winter break weekend packages will be worth but the general Sky packages involve more games (for less money). The international TV amounts are going up but I suspect we will at best match that of those three who got 10 games last season.

There is a restriction on the number of games that the "big six" can be shown by Sky and BT but (including the selections for March) so far Man City have been picked 20 times, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man U and Tottenham 19 times and Chelsea 18 times. Interestingly, if Leicester finish in the top 3 this year and Arsenal finish lower than 8th, then Leicester will replace Arsenal as one of the big six for TV picks. Leicester have been picked 17 times so far.

Wolves by comparison have been shown 8 times on Sky but none on BT. Everton have been shown 11 times on Sky and 4 times on BT. The number of games we have been shown is the lowest of all clubs.

I can see only three more games of ours that will probably be selected for TV coverage and all home games - Wolves, Chelsea and Tottenham. Leicester away may be a possibility if their Champions League qualification attempt is on a knife edge but I doubt it.

Each merit payment place is worth about £1.9 m. Basically, therefore, we could be in a situation whereby we finish say 6th and because of the facility fee, we actually earn £5-6 million less than say Wolves finishing 7th. People say our income from Premier League payments this year is £140m but I think it will pan out to nearer £120m unless we put a concerted run together to finish in the top 4!
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We've been on BT twice haven't we? Both Liverpool games were on BT.


Otherwise, good post. I agree we're unlikely to be on TV much now apart from the 3 you mention. Depends where we and our opponents are towards the end of the season I suppose.
 
bromtom said:
We've been on BT twice haven't we? Both Liverpool games were on BT.


Otherwise, good post. I agree we're unlikely to be on TV much now apart from the 3 you mention. Depends where we and our opponents are towards the end of the season I suppose.
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The Liverpool away game was part of the New Years Day package for which every game was shown. Not sure how that and the Amazon package will work for the facility fee which is why I separated them as mentioned. Those two along with the Winter break weekend are new packages for this season.
 
Bit suprised with this to be honest.. surely it be a loan only, i can see him finding his feet eventually but if theres not going to be many oppertunities for him towards the end of the season then surely a loan to west brom could only be a positive for us!
 

Adiroy said:
Bit suprised with this to be honest.. surely it be a loan only, i can see him finding his feet eventually but if theres not going to be many oppertunities for him towards the end of the season then surely a loan to west brom could only be a positive for us!
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The Athletic report suggests it’s a move to suit all parties:
  • Robinson gets the regular game-time to enable him to start preseason sharply
  • We get a player better prepared in preseason to be of use to us next season, and a loan fee, for someone that’s currently unlikely to play for us too much
  • West Brom potentially get a player to help get them over the finish line
 
I'm still a little surprised that we're sanctioning this on the basis that, we're only an injury away from being very light up top & Mousset has fitness problems.

I guess the thought is that he clearly isn't a striker & we have McGoldrick & L.Freeman who can play in behind.
 
CaptainMorgans said:
I'm still a little surprised that we're sanctioning this on the basis that, we're only an injury away from being very light up top & Mousset has fitness problems.

I guess the thought is that he clearly isn't a striker & we have McGoldrick & L.Freeman who can play in behind.
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We thought similar when we sold Lee Evans though, then we unveiled Norwood.

You just never know what Wilder has up his sleeve.

I’d be surprised if we let him go out with no attacker coming in because I also feel we are a little light at the top of the pitch. Especially when it comes to a bit of pace.
 
SUFCinks said:
Robbo has had some decent moments for us, a couple of valuable assists for us recently. Was scoring for fun pre-season but has been unable to carry that through to the prem for whatever reason. Theres a good player in there for sure.
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The reason why he impressed pre season is that they weren’t competitive games against top opposition mainly.

I thought before he came that he was a bit of a punt. Not really Prem standard.
 
CaptainMorgans said:
I'm still a little surprised that we're sanctioning this on the basis that, we're only an injury away from being very light up top & Mousset has fitness problems.

I guess the thought is that he clearly isn't a striker & we have McGoldrick & L.Freeman who can play in behind.
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I had high hopes for Robinson when we signed him, was quite an exciting signing. Young, British, seen as having a bit of flair, hungry to prove himself (same with Freeman too). Felt like (and still feels like) the right way to do our business.

Since then, I've seen very little. He doesn't fit our system and the system is more important that the individuals.

I see your point, about numbers of forwards. That's the context.

Take the individual player, away from the context, and he's not offered anywhere near enough yet. I wouldn't be against this, if we have someone else coming in.
 
...... the club broke their transfer record to sign the 24-year-old from Preston in July last year for a fee in the region of £7 million.

How times change in 6 months!
 
Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
I had high hopes for Robinson when we signed him, was quite an exciting signing. Young, British, seen as having a bit of flair, hungry to prove himself (same with Freeman too). Felt like (and still feels like) the right way to do our business
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Maybe, just maybe we have all but exhausted the British talent that can elevate themselves to compete at PL level and the time has come for us to use the more technical abilities of foreign players. Integrating those two styles, cultures, personalities will be a big job for CWAK.

just sayin
 
Blade56 said:
Maybe, just maybe we have all but exhausted the British talent that can elevate themselves to compete at PL level and the time has come for us to use the more technical abilities of foreign players. Integrating those two styles, cultures, personalities will be a big job for CWAK.

just sayin
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I wouldn't say we've maxed out. I think there's a blending of the two a'comin'.
 

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