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A Storm of Blades said:
How is this even a debate? You have a linesman stood near halfway with his flag up, effectively out of position, the ref not signalling play on until our defence have no chance to recover. How can you expect players to know what’s happening.

This is compounded by possibly the most hilariously one-sided coverage I think I’ve ever witnessed.
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Spot on. That excuse of commentary was a disgrace. Also linos told not to flag unless its clear and obvious. If clear and obvious they are not supposed to use var. If he kept his flag down then fair play, he didnt, our players did nothing wrong stopping playing. Pity jenas and ferdinand are as thick as pishit with their play to the whistle bollox.
 
Swannyblade said:
Why was didsy blown offside just now without first consulting VAR then...shouldn’t we play on without a whistle on the off chance the lino was wrong?! They’re picking and choosing and it’s the confusion caused by the inconsistencies that causing the issues
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No idea and I agree that the inconsistencies are an issue, but it wouldn't be an issue had our defense tried to defend. It's that simple.

BladesOnToast said:
If players have been told linos will only flag is a player is clearly offside, then it's understandable they'll want to save their energy etc if they see the flag go up.
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It's all a risk. The officials are human and get things wrong. He shouldn't have flagged, but was adamant that he was right, so did anyway. We stopped and took a risk that an official made an error... which he did and so we were punished for it.
 
SwitchBLADE Smiles said:
Regardless, we know that it is going to get checked anyway so the official line is "play on" until it's checked. Shelvey did, our defense didn't. We risked conceding a goal & got stung for it. Nobody else to blame but ourselves here I'm afraid.
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Henderson -5million now. Calamity Henderson. Lazy effort. Even Moore would have saved face ;)
 
essexblade73 said:
Spot on. That excuse of commentary was a disgrace. Also linos told not to flag unless its clear and obvious. If clear and obvious they are not supposed to use var. If he kept his flag down then fair play, he didnt, our players did nothing wrong stopping playing. Pity jenas and ferdinand are as thick as pishit with their play to the whistle bollox.
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Sorry, I disagree. The players were absolutely wrong and should have carried on. It's frustrating, but it's the rules. Need to wise up, adapt and crack on. Won't happen again
 
PeterNdlovu081 said:
What's all the fuss about?

It was a perfectly good goal.

Why did our players stop when he was clearly a mile onside?
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Clearly a Mile onside ???

If so then why did they use VAR. You need to take a look at the VAR photo as he was only inches onside.
 
PeterNdlovu081 said:
What's all the fuss about?

It was a perfectly good goal.

Why did our players stop when he was clearly a mile onside?
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If flag goes up whilst play is ongoing its clear and obvious, which apparently should not then be overruled by var
 
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DeanLearner'sCat said:
Why didn't the ref blow the whistle? Did he think his mate had dropped a bollock (he had, as it turned out)? And if so, shouldn't he make that clear to all the players on the pitch, so we know to keep going? Pre-season, they said that they wouldn't put the flag up unless they were sure, so when we see the flag up we assume it's clear and stop playing. If he hadn't put his flag up, no problem. Fucking clown.

It doesn't explain why there was a massive hole in the middle of our defence, though.
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Only fucking clowns here are the ones who don't keep playing until the ref blows the whistle. Guidelines or not there's always been one guideline that every single footballer on the planet has been told to adhere to no matter fucking what...play to the whistle.
 

sportinguista said:
Only fucking clowns here are the ones who don't keep playing until the ref blows the whistle. Guidelines or not there's always been one guideline that every single footballer on the planet has been told to adhere to no matter fucking what...play to the whistle.
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Soooo...what's the point of telling linos to keep their flag down if unsure if they are gonna go to var regardless?
 
essexblade73 said:
Soooo...what's the point of telling linos to keep their flag down if unsure if they are gonna go to var regardless?
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Don't disagree with you on that but we all know the oldest adage of all is keep playing til the ref blows the whistle to stop the game. Regardless of newfangled guidelines/suggestions/etc...play to the fucking whistle.
 
sportinguista said:
Only fucking clowns here are the ones who don't keep playing until the ref blows the whistle. Guidelines or not there's always been one guideline that every single footballer on the planet has been told to adhere to no matter fucking what...play to the whistle.
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Here. And our entire defensive line. And Wilder by the sounds of it.
 
Rufus Smalls said:
Clearly a Mile onside ???

If so then why did they use VAR. You need to take a look at the VAR photo as he was only inches onside.
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He was a lot further onside than Lundstram's toe was offside. VAR was used because there was a pissed up linesman who couldn't see straight put his flag up.
 
I assumed Atwell had blown for a stop in play after seeing the Lino's flag up.

True or False the whistle had blown?
 
Thought exercise. If Shelvey is 5 yards in from the touchline, does the ref blow? If not, then there were at least half a dozen scenarios where he did just that. If he does blow, then the fact Shelvey is through on goal is clearly a factor. What a mess.
 
I dont have a massive issues with the goal but the bigger issue is there is no point of having linesman. A few other times the flag went up and then play went on. Should we just keep the games going until it goes dead? It seems like they are just making it up as they go along. The goal though was fair enough. The linesman made an error as did United's team losing the header and not going with the runner. The offside trap was horrific and then nobody ran back. The national media are lambasting us not VAR. They are right. We have noone to blame but ourselves. We can;t change the rules. I dont like them but they are what they are. We have to control the controllables.
 

Klaatu Barada Nikto said:
An expensive lesson for our players, and people who are advising our players.

Play to the fucking whistle.
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Nope. Not even that.

What we're now saying to players, since the introduction of VAR, is that the decision of all three active officials could be wrong. Their authority isn't the final ruling on any aspect of the game. That they now need to chase every single ball, even if it looks completely lost, just in case the camera says it was worthy of chasing.

We're telling players who have been taught certain things since the age of fucking 7 or 8 that everything they've known now means sod all.
 
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