Everton want Egan

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This. Egan’s best attribute is his character. If he had a genuine turn of pace then he’d be in line for a top club. So I’m hoping that means he stays for the rest of his top flight career.

Moose could put himself on the radar of the top clubs, but he’s not there yet. And for some reason JOC goes unnoticed by England when I think he could play for anyone already.

Agree with that. I'm desperate for him to prove himself with us long term and go down as a fans favourite. He's a quality no-nonsense defender and hard as nails in the tackle, add to that that he's a handsome chap he's lining himself up to be Chris Morgan 2.0! 😄

Hopefully others follow suit and this crop of players get talked about for years to come, filling up the fancy seats on the South Stand in 2050.
 

I don't know how you gauge how good or not a city is but if you go on international visitors, Sheffield doesn't make the top 20. I'll give you a subtle clue as to why... Cos it's shit.
I can understand people liking Sheffield because they've always lived there and they're used to it but it's still shit.
So as a planet, the humans prefer Liverpool and John Egan possibly would too depending on wages.

I'm not saying Sheffield is better than Liverpool but using international visitors as the only way to judge it is stupid.

I bet Johannesburg is visited more than Barbados, I know where I'd rather be. Venice is apparently the most visited city in Italy, but I can assure you it's not the best.

I’ve often wondered if we might ever see “loyalty” come back into fashion? For those of us of a certain vintage, it’s in living memory of times when footballers and managers spent the majority of their careers with one club.

The thing that inspired that was a sense of belonging to a club and feeling valued and appreciated. Also, I suspect, feeling that they could get everything they want and need from one club. Playing at the top level, getting the recognition they deserve. Being happy with pay and conditions. Being treated fairly.

Of course when big money came into the game it changed things considerably for some. Careers in football are short, so who can blame someone for making a move away if the money means long term security for them and their loved ones? I certainly don’t.

It’s not much different to loyalty in any other line of work for that matter. If most of us thought we could get better pay, conditions, prospects, elsewhere, we’d probably move.

But sometimes people stay loyal for reasons other than money. I studied this some years ago and was fascinated to learn that money isn’t the biggest motivation for most people. It’s the social aspects that count for more. The stuff I referred to earlier. Being happy and feeling valued at work. That counts for a lot.

Our players are now plying their trade at the highest level and the club is doing well. Many of them are getting a chance to represent their country. And we hear the team spirit and bonding in the squad is good.

I don’t doubt that heads can still be turned by financial incentives but maybe, just maybe, we are building the right platform for players and management to think...you know what? I’m happy with my lot and I can get all I need from this club without needing to go elsewhere.

We are going the right way about it anyhow.

You seem to be reminiscing about the good old days, when loyalty was "in fashion" as if the reason why players moved less back in the day was something to do with their character.

The key factor in the increased movement of players was the Bosman ruling, not the death of loyalty.
 
i am sorry but Liverpool is not a much better city than Sheffield, in fact apart from the harbour front it is a total dump with run down areas abounding!
Certainly not a 'total dump.'
Liverpool has more listed buildings than anywhere outside London. Fantastic architecture, and it isn't all on the 'harbour front.'
 
7 pages and nobody has yet complained that this should be in the Rumour Mill section... Standards slipping from our resident moaners!
 
Certainly not a 'total dump.'
Liverpool has more listed buildings than anywhere outside London. Fantastic architecture, and it isn't all on the 'harbour front.'

So it should be, at certain points in the early to mid 19th century it was the richest city in the world.
 
I'm not saying Sheffield is better than Liverpool but using international visitors as the only way to judge it is stupid.

How would you gauge it then oh wise one?

Or shall we just say that we shouldn't judge a city on how many people want to visit it but by what some bell called Kanye says on t'Blades forum?
 
How would you gauge it then oh wise one?

Or shall we just say that we shouldn't judge a city on how many people want to visit it but by what some bell called Kanye says on t'Blades forum?

I wouldn't gauge it. One thing/place being better than another is subjective.

Thanks for the sarcastic "wise one" comment and calling me a bell though - very classy.
 
Certainly not a 'total dump.'
Liverpool has more listed buildings than anywhere outside London. Fantastic architecture, and it isn't all on the 'harbour front.'
Liverpool is rather nice actually .. shows how far we have been left behind as a city. Saying that .. why would anyone want to go to Everton? they've been the 'next big thing' since i was a nipper
 

Keough anyone?
On a free when he recovers next year.
Good backup if any of the defenders get lured away.

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Got to agree with you about The Beatles. Very over-rated. I preferred these guys.



I am not looking for an argument CB but over rated by whom? Fair enough if you don't like them but you are in a tiny minority globally, the body of work those guys have produced is far & away the best of practically any others.
 
Nobody talking about clauses, and it’s this close to Xmas..

We sign a lot of players because we allow “clauses” which mean they can leave when they want should certain criteria be met, David Brooks being a prime example..

If Egan wants £80k a week which we won’t pay him, or to move to an established (and they are) PL club where he will possibly finish his career, there could be something in place to allow that to happen..

On the flip side, wilder might have another player lined up himself, might want the millions in profit from the sale.. its never just the player, wilder never made a song and dance about brooks going did he? Used the money really well didn’t he..
 
My point was he's cheap if we sell for big money.
He was also in front of Egan in the Irish pecking order

Keogh is a shit sandwich without the bread.

Awful player.

Was in front of Egan because he got there first and that's how international football works unless you're injured.
 
Think Nicolaus_Copernicus post #60 is the only genuine solution if a player is determined to leave. Buy well in advance of said player's departure, pay good money, but you avoid that scent of desperation that will almost certainly see you pay far, far more than would be avoidable. At current valuations I'd wager that Egan would reliably enter into the £50-60 million bracket, and before anyone attempts to suggest a lower amount, the Spurs player, Dier, wasn't that long ago valued at a similarly astronomical figure. Dier's form since has levelled out to something more realistic, whereas Egan has paid his dies, learnt the hard way, and has been Mr Reliable, before he signed for the Blades and since he was recruited. A player who understands his defensive duties is less common these days, but JE is definitely one of this groups leaders.....fuck it, £60 million?!? Add another £10 mil just because he's that good.

That tackle on the ground with his head was worth the extra £10 million. It said everything about the bloke and why he’s worth every penny that anybody is willing to pay.

Egan isn’t about cash though - I would say that only Moose and maybe JOC would be tempted while we are comfortably Prem.

If we start to slide then the story changes though.
 
Nobody talking about clauses, and it’s this close to Xmas..

We sign a lot of players because we allow “clauses” which mean they can leave when they want should certain criteria be met, David Brooks being a prime example..

If Egan wants £80k a week which we won’t pay him, or to move to an established (and they are) PL club where he will possibly finish his career, there could be something in place to allow that to happen..

On the flip side, wilder might have another player lined up himself, might want the millions in profit from the sale.. its never just the player, wilder never made a song and dance about brooks going did he? Used the money really well didn’t he..
Brooks didn’t have a release clause.
 
That tackle on the ground with his head was worth the extra £10 million. It said everything about the bloke and why he’s worth every penny that anybody is willing to pay.

Egan isn’t about cash though - I would say that only Moose and maybe JOC would be tempted while we are comfortably Prem.

If we start to slide then the story changes though.

Agree 100% mate, that header was all about guts and backbone. Some players are born the the role of defender, and in Egan Wilder signed one of the very best. Double his money with the addition of a couple of more years, it won't be long before we increase everyone's money as our success continues, it's one possible way of keeping the vultures at bay.
 

Got to love how articles quote transfermarkt valuations.

6.3m rated John Egan!

As one of he too PL performers this season, I think you multiply that by 10 and keep going!
 

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