Henderson

[stringer]

He hasn't won us any yet this season.

He even dropped a simple header from Richarlison last week and had to collect it at the second attempt.

I remain to be convinced

Superb save v Kean at Everton. Earned 2 points. He’s arguably cost 3 so far, if you discount the stunner at Chelsea, so he’s a point behind. Be interesting to see how it stacks up come the end of the season

 

[Maidenhead]

Superb save v Kean at Everton. Earned 2 points. He’s arguably cost 3 so far, if you discount the stunner at Chelsea, so he’s a point behind. Be interesting to see how it stacks up come the end of the season

I could have sworn that we won that game 2-0

Like I have said numerous times, he is very good one on one but it takes more than that to make a top class keeper.

Pat Jennings he is not.

 

[super_pig]

Now that's another anomaly, Didsy doesn't score when through one on one and he's a crap striker.

Henderson, who is very good one on one makes a good save and he's a great keeper.

Why is because he is a great keeper and not the opposition striker that is crap?

i’m not criticising any if them.. i think they are both great players. that being said didsy could improve his finishing and hendo his distribution .. keepers always make mistakes anyway

 

[super_pig]

I could have sworn that we won that game 2-0

Like I have said numerous times, he is very good one on one but it takes more than that to make a top class keeper.

Pat Jennings he is not.

yet
perhaps this is the reason Chris thought it a good idea to knock him down a peg at this stage in his career.. we’ll see. i expect the reaction to be positive

 

[Maidenhead]

i’m not criticising any if them.. i think they are both great players. that being said didsy could improve his finishing and hendo his distribution .. keepers always make mistakes anyway

Not only keepers, we're all prone to it from time to time.

Or as my dad used to say "a man that has never made a mistake has never made anything"

Have yourself a great Sunday. UTB

 

[super_pig]

Not only keepers, we're all prone to it from time to time.

Or as my dad used to say "a man that has never made a mistake has never made anything"

Have yourself a great Sunday. UTB

indeed .. you too mate

 

[stringer]

I could have sworn that we won that game 2-0

Like I have said numerous times, he is very good one on one but it takes more than that to make a top class keeper.

Pat Jennings he is not.

If only football were as simple as adding an extra goal and it finishing 2-1. That goal going in would have changed the entire game.
RE your earlier post about match-winning saves, on a Sunday morning with a fuzzy head I offer you Norwich H and WBA A last season. But any game United won (and there were a lot of them) saw him make ‘match-winning saves’.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

macburnie must have just sighed in relief that the scapegoat baton has been passed on
most fans are still behind him.. we were chanting his name after his clanger

If I was Leon, the first thing I would've said on entering the dressing room would've been "Christ Hendo, you've dropped a reyt rollock there!" and quickly got in the shower. Lunny must have been crying tears of joy.

 

[Maidenhead]

If I was Leon, the first thing I would've said on entering the dressing room would've been "Christ Hendo, you've dropped a reyt rollock there!" and quickly got in the shower. Lunny must have been crying tears of joy.

One of the highlights of the day.

Kop chanting at England's Jordan Henderson "you're just a shit John Lundstram"

 

[TaipeiBlade]

So by your form on this thread you would prefer Simon Moore or a Keeper you havnt even seen play who Wilder and Ward rank as 3rd choice behind Moore play instead of a GK who in your own words is good enough to go to a World Cup as England’s No3.?

Also these 2 or 3 GKS who are younger and better who are they?

Learn to read. I said if Hendo keeps making mistakes and gets dropped, I'd prefer Verrips to Moore.

Learn to read, I said the most Hendo will be IN THE FUTURE will be England no. 3. Not that he is now. In the future, as in 5 years. I also said he'll more than likely be the next Rob Green.

At the moment, theres a good 5 keepers ahead of him. He's nowhere near No. 3 at moment

Pickford, Heaton, Pope, McCarthy, Gunn, Ramsdale are all ahead of him at the moment.

 

[bromtom]

This is not knocking Henderson, but I think our other five defenders may have had something to do with these results.

I can't remember a match winning save from Henderson, and he rarely has a lot to do due to the quality of the defence in front of him.

I'll be more than happy for anyone to line up a string of videos of the match winning saves that he's made as my memory is not what it once was.

How does a defender affect a point blank save in a 0-0? If that goal had gone in at Hillsborough we'd have lost because we didn't look like scoring.

Birmingham at home? Kept us in that. Norwich at home, would they actually have given it offside? There were plenty of game saving moments from Henderson.

Fecking ell.

Let's put Moore in and get tonked 5-0 every week.

 

[TaipeiBlade]

Superb save v Kean at Everton. Earned 2 points. He’s arguably cost 3 so far, if you discount the stunner at Chelsea, so he’s a point behind. Be interesting to see how it stacks up come the end of the season

Not a superb save, dont get carried away. It was a bread and butter save. If he'd let it in, it'd have been a huge balls up. Unless im thinking of a different save - the close range header?

 

[TaipeiBlade]

Thread bookmarked. It probably won't be long until I need to bump it.

 

[stringer]

Not a superb save, dont get carried away. It was a bread and butter save. If he'd let it in, it'd have been a huge balls up. Unless im thinking of a different save - the close range header?

You are.

 

[Dave Robinson]

Learn to read. I said if Hendo keeps making mistakes and gets dropped, I'd prefer Verrips to Moore.

Learn to read, I said the most Hendo will be IN THE FUTURE will be England no. 3. Not that he is now. In the future, as in 5 years. I also said he'll more than likely be the next Rob Green.

At the moment, theres a good 5 keepers ahead of him. He's nowhere near No. 3 at moment

Pickford, Heaton, Pope, McCarthy, Gunn, Ramsdale are all ahead of him at the moment.

And 3 are ahead of him at Man Utd!

 

[TaipeiBlade]

You are.

Ah, ok fair enough. I cant remember the one you mean.

 

[stringer]

Ah, ok fair enough. I cant remember the one you mean.

Kean one-on-one. Quick off his line, decisive, made himself ‘big’ and blocked it. Exactly what the England No.1 didn’t at the other end later on.

 

[mancunianblade]

[QUOTE="TaipeiBlade, post: 2243534, member: 21917"

At most, he'll be a solid England number 3 because theres 2 or 3 youngsters better than him already
[/QUOTE]
You’ve named one GK younger than Henderson who are the other 1 or 2?

secondly when you have such confidence in Verrips that you must be well versed on his
abilities I’m not can I ask where you’ve seen him?

with regards to telling me to learn to read you said in the future, fair enough but when do you think the next World Cup is? Tomorrow?

Two of the list you have compiled are at the same team meaning one will hardly play in the coming seasons unless they move. Tom Heaton will be 36 at the next World Cup.

Pickford is the current No1 and makes more mistakes than Henderson

 

[TaipeiBlade]

Anyone insisting Hendo

[QUOTE="TaipeiBlade, post: 2243534, member: 21917"

At most, he'll be a solid England number 3 because theres 2 or 3 youngsters better than him already

You’ve named one GK younger than Henderson who are the other 1 or 2?

secondly when you have such confidence in Verrips that you must be well versed on his
abilities I’m not can I ask where you’ve seen him?

with regards to telling me to learn to read you said in the future, fair enough but when do you think the next World Cup is? Tomorrow?

Two of the list you have compiled are at the same team meaning one will hardly play in the coming seasons unless they move. Tom Heaton will be 36 at the next World Cup.

Pickford is the current No1 and makes more mistakes than Henderson
[/QUOTE]

Learn to read. Youngsters. Not younger than him. Youngsters. Around the same age, granted, msybe youngsters is wrong word. But young, up and comers, future of the side.

But, ok, lets say next world cup.

Pickford, Butland, Pope, Gunn, Ramsdale, McCarthy will all be in their primes.

Them theres other good keepers like Sam Johnstone and Freddie Woodman who could be in the running.

 

[TaipeiBlade]

Just to add more fuel to the fire.

Hendos passing accuracy is 34%

The worst in the league for a goalkeeper.

Not. Good. Enough.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Just to add more fuel to the fire.

Hendos passing accuracy is 34%

The worst in the league for a goalkeeper.

Not. Good. Enough.

I bet his average pass distance is in the top 3. And I bet somebody like Pope is up there as well. That stat means nothing

 

[TaipeiBlade]

I bet his average pass distance is in the top 3. And I bet somebody like Pope is up there as well. That stat means nothing

Pope has 2nd lowest.

 

[bypassblade]

The Henderson gaff he knows it was one and is gutted as we all are, but I'm of the opinion he'll save us in more games than lose for us.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Pope has 2nd lowest.

There you go. The 2 teams who probably go direct the most. If Henderson was giving away dangerous possession over half the time he'd be dropped. His distribution can be inconsistent but it's not bad

 

[Top Cat]

Really I don't get this stick he gets he gains us more points than he loses us I agree he makes odd mistake but he is still only young in terms of a keeper. I seriously think we would struggle to sign a better keeper than him he is a brilliant shot stopped and gets the team up for it. He is going to go a long way in his career and will be a regular for a prem team weather or not it's for us or some one else.

That's the worst spell of whether that we've had for a while.

 

[biggey blade]

That's the worst spell of whether that we've had for a while.

Sorry mate. I must give my self detention till I spell correctly. Was more than likely auto correct on my phone or just the fact I was typing it out quickly but either way I'm not to arsed but obviously some people are so I apologise for miss spelling one word

 

[Davalon]

I agree. Robbo had a great game today, but he isn't a natural finisher.

I thought he did little tbh and contributed least.

No strength, didn't jump let alone win a header, ambled around at times without closing down, showed none of his supposed pace, and couldnt even hit the target with that chance.

Not jumping on the lad's back but in terms of purely yesterday I thought it looked a step too far for him.

 

[Davalon]

Sorry mate. I must give my self detention till I spell correctly. Was more than likely auto correct on my phone or just the fact I was typing it out quickly but either way I'm not to arsed but obviously some people are so I apologise for miss spelling one word

Ignore him pal.

Been a bit of a tool on a few boards. Not even a Blade. Toytowner.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

I accept that players will make mistakes over a season, but it's the rate that the mistakes are occurring with Henderson that bothers me.

Last season he proved himself to be a very good Championship goalkeeper, but he was always going to be out on trial as to whether he was going to be good enough for the top flight. Wilder seemed to think so and patiently waited all summer for him, and Boothroyd rated him enough to name him as his starting keeper in the England under 21 side for the Euros.

Henderson dropped a bollock against Romania at 2-2 which led to them losing 4-2 in that tournament.

Against Chelsea this season he dropped another bollock, however the team fought back magnificently to get a result that no one would have predicted at half time, so arguably he didn't cost us points as I don't think anyone predicted us coming back to draw the way we did.

Now against Liverpool he's dropped yet another bollock costing us a hard earned and deserved point.

Henderson has been given the chance to prove himself at a higher level at both under 21 international level and in the top flight. In his last nine competitive matches (under 21 and Premier League), he has made three absolute howlers through his own fault.

I'm not writing him off but I am very, very concerned as you'd expect a goalkeeper to drop a clanger maybe twice a season. One mistake every three competitive games, that is very worrying.

If Wilder puts it down to him being young and still learning then he has to accept some blame when they occur as he picks him.

I'm not saying Henderson is not good enough, far from that, he's still a work in progress, but one more blunder in the next five games and Wilder will have no choice but to drop him.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

Interesting that David Seaman sent that tweet. A good moment to show the funniest, and possibly best goal in football, from the last minute of extra time in the UEFA Cup Final. The Spanish commentators laughter following the goal is also good value



And Seaman reprised this mistake during the World Cup just a few, short years later.

I'll be honest with you I never thought either of those goals were mistakes
Just freak goals and could never understand the stick he got over them