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There weren't 4 chances he should have scored today. 1 he should have scored (1-on-1), there was 1 other chance that a decent Premier League striker would have scored (half volley). Against Palace he had one he should have buried (the sitter in front of goal, half volley) . Against Bournemouth, there were 2 chances that I'd have been surprised if Vardy had scored.

To my count it was 2 he should have scored. Both were in this first half, specifically the 1 on 1, which looks worse in the highlights, and the one from the freekick where he slid in at the back post and missed from 6 yards out (which no one is talking about and it wasn't on the 30 mins highlights - did I miss and offside???)

There were two others, 1 in the first half where he scuffed a shot from the edge of the 18 yard box, and the one he put his laces through in the second half. Sitting on the Lane upper I couldn't make out everything that happened in the box in the 2nd half so he may have had other chances).
 

The ball doesn't know what league it's in.

Yes it does. These are Premier League balls. Most of them get transported to the match in ferraris and have their own agents. The ball v Leicester has just landed a modelling contract. This is why goals are so hard to come by, the balls are distracted by all the off field shenanigans.
 
Was it a bad miss or a good save? I’ve not seen it back as the sky highlights didn’t seem to think showing any of our chances were worth showing.

Keepers are better in this league. Most teams do well to get someone scoring ten.

I thought Didsy had a good game. I think we would have created less without him. However, from his and about half a dozen other chances I would expect us normally to score at least one.

Billy being sent off was as big as that miss. We, and Billy in particular, were looking very dangerous at that point and I fancied us to get a couple more chances
bad miss .. he just shut his eyes and hammered it.. weird thing is that gunn was already on his arse.. with ‘his’ skill level didsy could have simply walked round him
 
I don’t dispute we need more clinical finishing. But I bet the XG on McG’s clean through chance is no more than 50/50.

(cue some frothing on the value of stats)
 
Mcgoldrick i thought had his most influential game of the season in 10 role. which i thought post Leicester he isnt a 9. its 10 or bench. there is a big argument he couldve had 4 today & no striker whether its aguero or a non league striker should miss that chance 1 on 1
And he has form for these misses.
 
Yes let’s write him off after the first 5 games of the season (and he’s only started 4) His should have buried that chance. Other than that he was excellent but sod it let’s bin him eh?
:rolleyes:
Can he displace one of our MF ?
I agree that he takes us up the pitch but we can't afford his missed chances.
If CW want to change the MF to accommodate him , so be it , but he ain't a Prem striker in a month of Sundays - not when we've spent £6m on Robbo ,10m on the Moose + £20m on BambiLegs to score the goals to keep us up.
We KNEW where the £ needed spending - we spent it - and we are missing good chances - doesn't take long to figure out why.
For goodness sake Wilder , pick the best 2 goalscorers let them develop an intuitive partnership.
Pity that Billy's ruled himself out till feckin October.
But pick 2 goalscorers + stick with them.
Don't chop + change
 
We have to stick with McGoldrick.

He is comfortably our best performing attacker and is the only one you can trust to have a positive impact on a game. Apart from Mousset anyway, but I'm not sure we're allowed to use him until next season.

The fact he's getting so many more chances than anyone else speaks volumes.

Take him out of the team and our overall attacking game suffers.

Maybe we should see what he looks like with a suitable strike partner at this level. We've not seen that this season.
 
I don’t dispute we need more clinical finishing. But I bet the XG on McG’s clean through chance is no more than 50/50.

(cue some frothing on the value of stats)

He has a decade to pick his spot. It was very much more than a 50/50 chance.

We have to stick with McGoldrick.

He is comfortably our best performing attacker and is the only one you can trust to have a positive impact on a game. Apart from Mousset anyway, but I'm not sure we're allowed to use him until next season.

The fact he's getting so many more chances than anyone else speaks volumes.

Take him out of the team and our overall attacking game suffers.

Maybe we should see what he looks like with a suitable strike partner at this level. We've not seen that this season.

You do know every other striker we have has already put the ball in the net this season with fewer chances?

Didsy is a number 10 because he is not clinical enough in front of goal.
 
He has a decade to pick his spot. It was very much more than a 50/50 chance.



You do know every other striker we have has already put the ball in the net this season with fewer chances?

Didsy is a number 10 because he is not clinical enough in front of goal.

Let's start Sharp and McBurnie together every game then, and see how that works out.
 
Love the guy but he's not premier league simple as that. He slows the game down on the front font by checking back and finding a nice pass, as opposed to driving forward which shows his inability to beat a player and lack of creativity at this level.

For a guy with such technical ability his finishing is horrendous he can't pick a corner and gets flustered with every chance. Shame Sharp is now suspended as he looked quality coming on and would be putting these chances to bed
 
He has a decade to pick his spot. It was very much more than a 50/50 chance.

I don’t have access to the stats, but will keep an eye out for what it turns out to be. From listening to Beans and his buddy, I’m pretty sure the stats aren’t as favourable to the striker as you’d think.
 
Just looked up McGoldrick's XG stats. His XG is 2.41, which puts him the 7th highest in the league. He has a higher XG than: Sterling (4), Kane (3), Firmino (2), Rashford (1), Mane (4), Aubameyang (2), Martial (2), Vardy (3), Lacazette (2).

The only player with a worse XG to goals value is Che Adams (2.46 to 0). McGoldrick's XA is also 0.

Source: https://understat.com/league/EPL
 
I don’t have access to the stats, but will keep an eye out for what it turns out to be. From listening to Beans and his buddy, I’m pretty sure the stats aren’t as favourable to the striker as you’d think.

0.27 according to the link up there...
 

Just focusing on the striker role..

He's not good enough at this level plain and simple, and let's drop the sentiment because we haven't got the time to waste on him anymore.. yesterday was a big game for us..

What did the Southampton fans call him Mc goaldrought... Says it all..
 
Didn’t even allow myself to get excited when he was clean through on goal. I’d have been surprised if he’d finished it.

He’s always needed 3 or 4 chances to get a goal. He got in the team last season largely based on his technical ability rather than his ability to score goals. We now have players equally as good of not better technically so the bottom line is that he needs to start scoring goals, which at his age isn’t going to change. There’s not time for sentiment with this one.
 
But without McGoldrick in the team the MOTD highlights of us might be of a team failing to get up the pitch & create chances... worse, I would say, than of a team creating chances but failing to pull the trigger.

I don't disagree with what all of you are saying, but I think many are underestimating the important of McGoldrick between both boxes. I honestly think we'd look very disjointed without him in our side.

Is McGoldrick the only player we have that can do that? I don’t think so
 
Let's start Sharp and McBurnie together every game then, and see how that works out.

If Freeman, plays we will create just as many chances. McBurnie and Sharp don’t need as many to score goals. I actually wouldn’t mind those two starting.

McGoldrick is our least prolific striker and if we are using him as such, then unfortunately he’s bottom of the pile.
 
On reflection, I'm really not sure we're good enough at this level to lose Lundstram, play McGoldrick in the Duffy role & throw another striker in.

Watching Norwood's defensive performance yesterday tells me that we'd just be completely overrun in the middle of the park if we adopted the same formation as last season. Lundstram is covering a lot of ground & making a lot of tackles / interceptions. Without someone performing that role we'd be an open shop.

The balance of the side is correct at the moment with McGoldrick playing off a front man. The only debates at the moment for me are Fleck vs Freeman, McBurnie vs Mousset. I don't think anybody else in reserve is good enough to take a starting shirt at the moment.

Our shape has matched every opponent we've come up against, it's simply individual errors that are costing us (at both ends!). There's not a lot the management can do about these unfortunately, some of our players are limited in their skillsets. If we go down, it will simply be because too many of our players weren't quite up to it.
 
This season more than ever we need goals because they not only win games they build team confidence .and it's not just about his lack of goals, it's also about what it dose to the teams confidence when he keeps missing the ones that he should score..
We've all seen what a goal scored and a win does for both the team and supporters moral, you only have to look at this board to see what an unnecessary defeat starts to do.
Good midfield player, for now keep him there....
 
It's all well and good saying DM is involved in link up play but where are the goals? The goals he is paid to score? I agree he brings alot to his game but at some point he's gonna have to fucking score.

I know without goals it means fuck all.
 
Don't want to see him dropped just play him behind a front 2 he brings so much to the team apart from goals
 
He is NOT a striker. He is a midfielder.

I have said this ever since he arrived here.

He’s a crackin’ player and I really like him. But FFS stop playing him as a striker - use him as the number 10 - and we’ll do a lot better.

Played whole career as striker
POTY last year as striker
“Play him number 10”
 
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Why are we relying on him to create when our midfield should be doing that, is it because we’ve become ultra defensive with the flat 3...lunny out Freeman/McG in!
 

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