McGoldrick

[Rodley]

Love Didsy but I’m Sick of hearing people say “but Didsy offers us so much more than just goals”
He’s there to score fucking goals!!
He should either be used against the better teams in the league or play him in the midfield 3.

Well he is and he isn’t. His role is to drop into the space between the opposition’s defence and midfield, pull people out of position and link play. His movement is superb and he’s heavily involved in creating key chances.

It’s a bit like saying “Enda Stevens is a defender so I’m sick of people saying he is good at assists”. Some roles within Wilder’s system aren’t particularly orthodox. I’m surprised people are surprised / annoyed by this. All the overloads are based on these type of movements to disorientate the opposition.

 

[bornablade]

We also need the midfielders to weigh in with goals and, as Wilder pointed out, Fleck missed two good chances.....

There were also two (at least) for Baldock to bury. Superb cross field passes that left George clear and yet his first touch let him down.

Didn't watch MOTD but just watched the 10 minute highlights and neither are shown.

I'd like to see Mousset and Sharp up front. Not sure that Mousset is a goal scorer but I think he has the pace and ability to create chances and Billy looked on fire when he came on yesterday.

 

[sufcboy95]

Well he is and he isn’t. His role is to drop into the space between the opposition’s defence and midfield, pull people out of position and link play. His movement is superb and he’s heavily involved in creating key chances.

It’s a bit like saying “Enda Stevens is a defender so I’m sick of people saying he is good at assists”. Some roles within Wilder’s system aren’t particularly orthodox. I’m surprised people are surprised / annoyed by this. All the overloads are based on these type of movements to disorientate the opposition.

That worked brilliantly last season against poorer opposition, as like you say we were able to overload in the attacking third. However this season playing against better players that hasn’t really happened so far this season. Therefore we need 2 goalscorers up top.

 

[Rodley]

That worked brilliantly last season against poorer opposition, as like you say we were able to overload in the attacking third. However this season playing against better players that hasn’t really happened so far this season. Therefore we need 2 goalscorers up top.

To get someone who can play the McGoldrick role and score 20 goals a season, would probably take a top 8 finish and £30m+.

The alternative is put Freeman in the midfield three (to sit closer to the strikers) and then put Robinson up top. I do think that’s probably our best approach.

It’s essential we have a player who can get into that space.

Either way we’re only five matches in.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

McG is a very good technical footballer. But he needs to be played deeper (behind the front two) or not at all. He isnt a good enough finisher to be a centre foward. He tends to bag one in four chances. That ratio needs to be much better in the PL.

 

[hidesbehindapseudonym]

McG is a very good technical footballer. But he needs to be played deeper (behind the front two) or not at all. He isnt a good enough finisher to be a centre foward. He tends to bag one in four chances. That ratio needs to be much better in the PL.

I agree except for the one in four bit. More like one in ten.
UTB

 

[Sheff de party]

Stupid quotes like "if he could finish he wouldnt be with us" make me laugh! Chances like that are a strikers bread and butter should be scoring no excuses, when u miss them chances everything else gets overlooked and that's what will start happening unfortunately. Thought midfield was a yard of the pace today as well.

You’ve answered your own point.

He does miss those and so everything else does get overlooked. Hence why if he could finish he wouldn’t be with us.

 

[BladeTillIDie]

Thought Fleck didn't match Freemans contribution of last week. Discuss

Different type of players playing in different roles. Poor comparison.
Oh and Fleck was one of our better player Saturday. Discuss.

 

[Toronto Blade]

McG has been at his best when we are ahead he is good at holding the ball up,good at the high press and tracking back. All his good work falls apart when he is faced with a chance to hit the net.

 

[Argentinemanager]

Mcgoldrick is 9th in the premier league xg stats with 2.4, so realistically only missed 2 goal chances, let him adjust the goals will come, hes getting in good positions

 

[Champagneblade]

We also need the midfielders to weigh in with goals and, as Wilder pointed out, Fleck missed two good chances.....

Yes, but Fleck doesn't play up front!

We have a formation to accommodate his best and worst facets.

In games vs the likes of Southampton where Chris talked about risk and reward, we need to be benching Lundstram and including another forward player if we are to retain McGoldrick, who makes for a very good no 10.

In away games, where his ability to retain further up, there is a spot for him because he helps pad out the midfield and keep it tight and there you hope a Mousset or McBurnie can Nick a goal. Or to be fair Robinson, who can consider himself unlucky if he remains out of the team given his goal in the last away match.

 

['Doc' Pace my hero]

We all love a clever,inventive footballer,we all love a natural goalscorer,if you can find a player that can do both in the premiership you better have a fat wallet !!

 

[oohaah]

Well he is and he isn’t. His role is to drop into the space between the opposition’s defence and midfield, pull people out of position and link play. His movement is superb and he’s heavily involved in creating key chances.

It’s a bit like saying “Enda Stevens is a defender so I’m sick of people saying he is good at assists”. Some roles within Wilder’s system aren’t particularly orthodox. I’m surprised people are surprised / annoyed by this. All the overloads are based on these type of movements to disorientate the opposition.

Sums it up perfectly for me.

Nothing a centre half dislikes more than a striker who doesn't stand where he is supposed to. When Mcgoldrick wanders deep the centre half has to leave him so he has nobody to mark, that means when we are in possession we have an extra man somewhere on the pitch. This is an important aspect that helps us create those overloads.

As regards this absolute sitter that he missed, as someone else has posted an XG of 27% suggests otherwise. Its a good chance but far from an open goal.

What I would like to see again was that other chance he had sliding in at the far post in the first half, I suspect it was offside but there was no flag. I'm sure VAR would have come in to play had he scored it. That looked a far better chance to me.

 

[blade too long]

Different type of players playing in different roles. Poor comparison.
Oh and Fleck was one of our better player Saturday. Discuss.

cant be that different if one replaces the other

 

[BushBlade]

Anyone know what the current one on one conversion average is? About thirty years ago, I read that it was only one in three. It stuck in my mind because I’d grown up watching Edwards and I only remember him missing a one on one once. So I was quite shocked to learn it wasn’t the norm. I think it was one of those ‘myth buster’ articles that showed what bollocks pundits spoke.

I’m guessing that may have changed now. Apologies if it’s been already mentioned but I could only manage three pages of this nine page thread as it had become very repetitive.

 

[Woodys Thunderbolt]

Raheem Sterling misses far more chances than he scores.

 

[Beans]

Anyone know what the current one on one conversion average is? About thirty years ago, I read that it was only one in three. It stuck in my mind because I’d grown up watching Edwards and I only remember him missing a one on one once. So I was quite shocked to learn it wasn’t the norm. I think it was one of those ‘myth buster’ articles that showed what bollocks pundits spoke.

I’m guessing that may have changed now. Apologies if it’s been already mentioned but I could only manage three pages of this nine page thread as it had become very repetitive.

There's a bunch of different factors that'll affect the conversion rate, but for the sake of argument the McGoldrick chance gets scored 33% of the time according to Infogol (so 0.33xG). The shot for Southampton's goal was 31% (0.31xG). Can't think of many other recent one-on-ones - Tammy Abraham's second goal against us gets scored 40% of the time. One-in-three seems like a fairly safe rule of thumb assuming they're chances from a central area without any defenders between striker and keeper. Of course, some players will be more likely to finish a 33% shooting chance than others...

 

[bartman]

It stuck in my mind because I’d grown up watching Edwards and I only remember him missing a one on one once. So I was quite shocked to learn it wasn’t the norm. I think it was one of those ‘myth buster’ articles that showed what bollocks pundits spoke.

I’m guessing that may have changed now. Apologies if it’s been already mentioned but I could only manage three pages of this nine page thread as it had become very repetitive.

Edwards was the best finisher I have ever seen in a Blades shirt. Rarely blasted the ball and he had the gift of finding space in the penalty box when a cross came into the box ( from Colin Morris in particular). Rarely scored from outside the box although Port Vale away and Walsall at home spring to mind. And then there was the 'Pele' goal at home to Bristol Rovers in front of the Kop.

The only player who I think came close to Edwards in terms of finishing ability whilst with us was Fjortoft . I can't recall either of those two missing many one on ones......you expected both to score which is not the case with McGoldrick

 

[BushBlade]

Edwards was the best finisher I have ever seen in a Blades shirt. Rarely blasted the ball and he had the gift of finding space in the penalty box when a cross came into the box ( from Colin Morris in particular). Rarely scored from outside the box although Port Vale away and Walsall at home spring to mind. And then there was the 'Pele' goal at home to Bristol Rovers in front of the Kop.

The only player who I think came close to Edwards in terms of finishing ability whilst with us was Fjortoft . I can't recall either of those two missing many one on ones......you expected both to score which is not the case with McGoldrick

After the Pele goal my mate’s dad told us to remember that goal because we wouldn’t see many like it.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Majestic today. Bergkampesque. What a performance.

Himself & Mousset have those shirts tied up.

 

[Digger]

Sublime performance but I thought Lundstram and Fleck were just as good.
Happy Days.

 

[Antonb]

He was awesome

 

[CaptainMorgans]

It's his best performance in the Premier League. He was unplayable & without the ball his workrate was incredible, nipping in behind & never giving Burnley a moments rest. What a player. Lundstram will receive the plaudits today, but McGoldrick was our most influential player out there today. Everything went through him.

 

[true99blade]

It's his best performance in the Premier League. He was unplayable & without the ball his workrate was incredible, nipping in behind & never giving Burnley a moments rest. What a player. Lundstram will receive the plaudits today, but McGoldrick was our most influential player out there today. Everything went through him.

The whole team was the centre of everything.

 

[blade too long]

McGoldrick is our Cantona , well a poor mans one admitted
but his vision and his overall contribution is why we are doing well
when hes been out we arent the same

 

[Stevo]

Poor man's letissier

 

[PokerBlade]

It's his best performance in the Premier League. He was unplayable & without the ball his workrate was incredible, nipping in behind & never giving Burnley a moments rest. What a player. Lundstram will receive the plaudits today, but McGoldrick was our most influential player out there today. Everything went through him.

One of those games where you almost feel bad for singling a player out for how good they all were as individuals and as a team. Lundstram gets MOTM for two goals and nearly more, but the only one you can say hasn't been fantastic is Hendo - and that's only because he only got one chance to make a save.

As for McGoldrick, I can only repeat myself. People can talk about missed chances but you can't avoid seeing the difference between when he's on the pitch and when he isn't. We hold the ball better, we link up better, we threaten far more.

 

[Iceybabey]

Involved in the build up to the first two goals, nothing new to those with the not so short memories of last season.

 

[ATL Recs]

It's his best performance in the Premier League. He was unplayable & without the ball his workrate was incredible, nipping in behind & never giving Burnley a moments rest. What a player. Lundstram will receive the plaudits today, but McGoldrick was our most influential player out there today. Everything went through him.

But that’s what he’s been like every game yet even at half time today some numpties in the bogs said he’s crap can only make goals ffs
Same last week after WHU walking back to the coaches some twats saying he needs dropping
All I can say is bollocks, just stick to the beer on the concourse boys you nothing about the game

 

[ATL Recs]

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