Let the Moose loose!

[Niceguyeddie]

I assume you’ve not seen it from the other angle then.

Which angle do you mean ?
Show me and I'll tell you

 

[LJBlade]

Like you, I was certain that Moose didn't touch it, but that GIF seems to show that he did. Ball goes past him first, Zouma deflects the ball back and up, where Moose is flicking his foot and in it goes.

While Zouma looked gutted, he wouldn't be to know that Moose got a touch. Plus, Moose certainly seemed to be celebrating the goal as if it was his.

Hope it is as that would be 4 strikers scoring goals this season already.

That GIF doesn’t show anything of the sort, at no point does the ball go back. You’ve got to consider the angle of the view. The ball is already well past Mousett’s foot before it hits Zouma. If it had then gone back to hit Mousett the change of direction on the ball would’ve been obvious, it isn’t. The ball stays on a consistent trajectory and only slightly deviates once it has hit Zouma’s shin.

 

[LJBlade]

Which angle do you mean ?
Show me and I'll tell you

The angle from the other side, the one from Robinson’s view.

Edit: and for what it’s worth, the GIF that is going around is deceptive. I’ve just watched it again frame by frame and Mousett’s foot doesn’t actually ‘arrive’ until the ball has hit Zouma and gone well past, there is no change of direction to suggest it deflected back onto Mousett. Obviously I can’t show this to prove it but there really is no touch from Mousett. If you can’t tell, I’m very bored and I don’t actually care either way. The score at the end was still the same.

 

[Kevin Arnott]

The angle from the other side, the one from Robinson’s view.

The Magic Bullet theory ! Perhaps Moose scored it from behind the grassy knoll

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

At the end of the day, it was a cracking cross and Moose was on the end of it.
Zouma only put it in lunging trying to stop Moose.
'Theoretical' OG , mousset takes the credit still for me.

 

[LJBlade]

At the end of the day, it was a cracking cross and Moose was on the end of it.
Zouma only put it in lunging trying to stop Moose.
'Theoretical' OG , mousset takes the credit still for me.

Yep, Mousett still gets a whole lot of credit for it, as does Robinson and Egan (what was he doing at the back post?). Everyone in the vicinity put the pressure on Zouma and caused him to do what he did.

 

[Houso]

That GIF doesn’t show anything of the sort, at no point does the ball go back. You’ve got to consider the angle of the view. The ball is already well past Mousett’s foot before it hits Zouma. If it had then gone back to hit Mousett the change of direction on the ball would’ve been obvious, it isn’t. The ball stays on a consistent trajectory and only slightly deviates once it has hit Zouma’s shin.

It's not "well past" Mousset's foot though. His foot his literally on top of Zouma's leg. The other angles are too far away to form any sort of certain opinion; I've just watched them all.

On the angle from behind (i.e the GIF), you can see two movements of the ball too.

 

[LJBlade]

It's not "well past" Mousset's foot though. His foot his literally on top of Zouma's leg. The other angles are too far away to form any sort of certain opinion; I've just watched them all.

On the angle from behind (i.e the GIF), you can see two movements of the ball too.

It is ‘well past’ but the time Mousett’s leg gets there though

 

[Mojo]

Even in the championship they had goal cam and several different angles of the goals. Surely there are more than just 2 angles we can look at.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

It's not "well past" Mousset's foot though. His foot his literally on top of Zouma's leg. The other angles are too far away to form any sort of certain opinion; I've just watched them all.

On the angle from behind (i.e the GIF), you can see two movements of the ball too.

Every time I watch it it looks like zouma kicks it off moussets boot
Maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see but that's what I've seen every time

Like I said before Blades Analytics was tweeting about it last night and trying to get the attention of the club and local journos
Not sure he'd do that if there's no point

 

[Akinbiyi]

Zouma kicks it onto Mousset’s foot. I’m absolutely certain. It’s something you cant see from front on but you can from behind, as in that GIF. If Mousset isn’t there it changes direction, he might even be clearing it.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

It’s mooses goal 100% clearly Zouma kicks it agains his toe just can’t tell in real time.

In slow mo it’s as clear as day

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

Zouma kicks it onto Mousset’s foot. I’m absolutely certain. It’s something you cant see from front on but you can from behind, as in that GIF. If Mousset isn’t there it changes direction, he might even be clearing it.

It’s a reyt Clarence to be fair just straight on to the moose

 

[Akinbiyi]

It’s a reyt Clarence to be fair just straight on to the moose

It is. He clears a very very dangerous cross if Moose’s foot isn’t exactly where it is IMO.

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

The ball is on the goal side of the defenders boot, moose can’t of touched it

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

Clear as day here

 

[Snowman]

The ball is on the goal side of the defenders boot, moose can’t of touched it
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Have fucking have!

 

[SWB]

The angle from the other side, the one from Robinson’s view.

Edit: and for what it’s worth, the GIF that is going around is deceptive. I’ve just watched it again frame by frame and Mousett’s foot doesn’t actually ‘arrive’ until the ball has hit Zouma and gone well past, there is no change of direction to suggest it deflected back onto Mousett. Obviously I can’t show this to prove it but there really is no touch from Mousett. If you can’t tell, I’m very bored and I don’t actually care either way. The score at the end was still the same.

have a word with yourself.......you don't think Mousett touched it from any of the angles. Looks as a few people have stated like he got a touch

 

[Niceguyeddie]

The ball is on the goal side of the defenders boot, moose can’t of touched it
View attachment 60676

Well that proves beyond doubt .....unless...what if he already has ?

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

The ball is on the goal side of the defenders boot, moose can’t of touched it

Have fucking have!

The ball is on the goal side have the defenders boot, moose can’t of touched it

Fify

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Clear as day here

That still looks to me like Zouma has kicked it back onto Mousset’s toe end. Mousset’s goal.

Reminds me a bit of that dress that went viral a few years ago, some saw it as black & blue and others as gold & white. Weird.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

That still looks to me like Zouma has kicked it back onto Mousset’s toe end. Mousset’s goal.

Reminds me a bit of that dress that went viral a few years ago, some saw it as black & blue and others as gold & white. Weird.

For that to happen the ball would have to have stopped, bounced backwards towards Mousset, then rebounded again to carry on it's original direction.
Mousset to just misses it, and it hits Zoumas instead.
It's a forced error.

 

[Varkanoid]

Does it matter ? No. 2-2.

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

Well that proves beyond doubt .....unless...what if he already has ?

Then the ball would be higher than the boot, it travelled upwards

 

[LJBlade]

It’s mooses goal 100% clearly Zouma kicks it agains his toe just can’t tell in real time.

In slow mo it’s as clear as day

How do you account for the lack of direction change on the ball?

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

Press play on the video on the tweet I linked, pause it and you can scroll with your finger. 100% moose doesn’t touch it

 

[Sheffsteel]

How do you account for the lack of direction change on the ball?

Now that is a good question....wonder who can explain that if Zouma kicked the ball AWAY from the goal then how come the ball goes straight in off his boot with no change of direction. It was kind of a fantastic assist from The Moose, if he wasn’t there, it would have never been a goal....he deserves full credit.

Been impressed with Mousset so far.....still raw but you can see the potential.

 

[Snake]

Looks to me like the ball took 2 touches. I reckon Moose got the first touch then it went in off Zouma's shin. I'm not sure what the rules are these days but Moose's touch was goal bound before it glanced off Zouma.

 

[Rusty view]

Read all 3 pages of this and i think Egan gets a touch.......

 

[Punk Blade]

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It’s Mousset.

As for whose goal it is, there seem to be two schools of thought: there were two touches on the way through where Mousset has the final touch, essentially blocking Zouma’s attempted clearance, or Mousset didn’t touch it at all and the ball didn’t change direction, in which case it would have to have been on target from Robinson. If we accept one of these scenarios is correct, then it isn’t an own goal and the debate is whether the goal is credited to Robinson or Mousset.

I’m in the ‘two touches-Mousset goal’ camp.