CONFIRMED Lys Mousset

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bonnet de douche said:
Pretty much yes ...and just because some folk have googled his early career ..and are clinging on to that ..does that make my opinion Miles out ...I think not..

If Eddie Howe couldn't get this talent out ...? Are we guaranteed too ? ...The answer nobody knows but at that price and his record I wouldn't say it's a top signing...it's a punt ..and a big punt at £10 mill

In my opinion I would have looked elsewhere...
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My opinion of course but, I can't see it being £10m up front......more like £5/6m with addons based on appearances, staying up etc.
 

'Doc' Pace my hero said:
I agree,Wilders response when asked about the progress of Mousetts 'transfer' today was strange,i got the impression that either he or the player were getting cold feet,i wouldn't be surprised if it didn't happen.
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i think wilders responses today was strange on all the transfers
 
Having heard the interview , I can only agree that he sounded fed up with life and can only assume that things are not slotting into place.
Hendo Deal is taking too long , which is either a greedy agent or Man U wanting us to pay what we consider to be an unrealistic wage contribution.
The Moussett deal seems to have hit a brick wall, if indeed it existed in the first place as it could all be journalist and agent talk as nothing has come out from either club.
McBurnie is another brick wall, where I assume we thought we had a deal only for goal posts to be moved.

All very very infuriating for a manager who has principals, whereas others seemingly do not
 
Ricky said:
It is the first time Wilder's gambled a significant amount of money. His most risky signing by far.
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To this amount yes, but I’d argue spending up to £4.1m on Egan last summer had plenty feeling we were spending over their value. On the face of it that at the time seemed like a lot for what we were getting. It obviously proved itself to be excellent business. I guess we’d have had a better test of that last year had we spent day £6m on Waghorn mind.
 
Balham Blade said:
To put this one to bed (hopefully):

We sold Brooks for £11.5m up front, split into three instalments. Bournemouth paid £4m in July 2018 with £4m due in Jan 2019 and the final £3.5m due in July this year.

We, as most championship sides do, had cashflow constraints last season so we borrowed the £7.5m in July last year, guaranteed against the £7.5m of future income from Bournemouth. In effect, it means that Bournemouth's second and third installments went straight to the bank.

We won't be writing off any outstanding money from the Brooks deal if we sign Mousset. There's no point.
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You’d imagine Brooks played enough games and was involved in enough goals last season to have triggered a few add ons though. So that 3.5m could easily now be double that or more. So it is very possible that we’re taking Mousett for “free” and writing off that amount and paying the bank 3.5m ourselves
 
Mousett was very much part of the squad on Friday so unless I've read it wrong it's a done deal .
 
BLADE OF GRASS said:
Mousett was very much part of the squad on Friday so unless I've read it wrong it's a done deal .
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Having listened to Wilders interview again,it actually seems that what he was suggesting was that Moussett wasn't the player that was going to break the clubs transfer record,so you could be right.
 
ormester said:
i think wilders responses today was strange on all the transfers
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I wouldn’t read too much into that - wilder can’t stand that interviewer. He’s always prickly with him.

And to be fair to the interviewer he didn’t ask much wrong today in my opinion.

Also people need to chill out - we are competing the largest deal in our history. It’s gonna take a bit of time to conclude. Let’s not act like it’s hit the rocks just yet.
 
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Bladeinleeds said:
I wouldn’t read too much into that - wilder can’t stand that interviewer. He’s always prickly with him.

And to be fair to the interviewer he didn’t ask much wrong today in my opinion.

Also people need to chill out - we are competing the largest deal in our history. It’s gonna take a bit of time to conclude. Let’s not act like it’s hit the rocks just yet.
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Who was the interviewer?
 
I don’t think this lad is really any more or less of a risk because basically at that price these days literally everyone is a risk

Your not going to get proven year in year out prem quality on the money we likely have, and I’m obviously guessing here, but it’s likely to be less than most prem teams if not all

And that’s not a complaint about how much we have got, it’s just reality, I mean looking who is out there even a Charlie Austin who you could argue is more proven than any of the targets we have been linked with consistently is a risk because of his fitness etc which is why he is out there
 
Bladeinleeds said:
I wouldn’t read too much into that - wilder can’t stand that interviewer. He’s always prickly with him.

And to be fair to the interviewer he didn’t ask much wrong today in my opinion.

Also people need to chill out - we are competing the largest deal in our history. It’s gonna take a bit of time to conclude. Let’s not act like it’s hit the rocks just yet.
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Yep Wilder already said that we are fishing in a different pond now and agents have a bigger influence on deals.
He will be frustrated as it is also new to him.
 

flashinblade1889 said:
Here we go....... :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed:
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It was a partial joke, and he'd be a decent punt at 2/3 million, but if it is 10 million then we're paying a club record for someone who has failed in his premier league career, so far. It would be an odd thing to do. Picking him up for a lot less than Bournemouth paid for him, would be a gamble but one which could pay off. Giving them more, would be madness. I'm not sure why some people think this is an odd perceptive to have. 58 games, 3 goals. In an attacking team. That's an awful return. And no, he didn't start most of those games, but come on. People happily mock the suggestion of Danny Welbeck (he's perfect for Newcastle; overpaid, full of it and rubbish), but his record is vastly superior.
 
I dont care about his fee and his goal scoring record, if Wilder wants him then thats good enough for me...and all that, but
Arent Mcburnie, Maupay and Mousset complete different players?
Being eternal underdogs I dont expect us to always get our main target but if Mousset is PlanC then are we having to rethink our entire aims and gameplan?

I will get pelters here but I dont think Wilder sounded completely satisfied with the progress we are making in yesterday's post match interview.
 
From the pig end said:
I dont care about his fee and his goal scoring record, if Wilder wants him then thats good enough for me...and all that, but
Arent Mcburnie, Maupay and Mousset complete different players?
Being eternal underdogs I dont expect us to always get our main target but if Mousset is PlanC then are we having to rethink our entire aims and gameplan?

I will get pelters here but I dont think Wilder sounded completely satisfied with the progress we are making in yesterday's post match interview.
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I doubt he is happy with his progress but most managers will probably feel the same. It must be incredibly frustrating trying to sort deals out based around strict budgets and parameters. With agents, players and clubs forever trying to get more.

If we do sign Mousset, it would be surprising if another striker wasn't coming in as well. I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but is there the possibility he'd be a loan? That would make much more sense to me. Bournemouth possibly can't sell him and would rather get the wages off their books so they can bring someone else in? I can't imagine us spending 20 million on 2 strikers, on top of Robinson. When there's other positions which need filling.
 
I still think Mcburnie would be the easier and more suitable option but Mousset is going to be a cheaper buy than Ollie, and like I've said above maybe Maupay might like a young french mate to play up top with.
 
If you forget about fees and his previous record and just watch clips of the lad play it's obvious he has frightening talent
If you also think we have a good patching team and a system that brings the best out of players who like to play football you'll be confident of this signing paying off long term

If not ,what the fuck have you been watching for the last three years ?
 
robbiez666 said:
if another striker wasn't coming in as well. I don't think anyone has mentioned this, butI can't imagine us spending 20 million on 2 strikers, on top of Robinson. When there's other positions which need filling.
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I think you ought to expand your imagination Robbie. Tufty has said he expects to break the transfer record twice. That’s for two strikers. It seems Moose and either McB or Maupay. We need them. Anybody who thinks we can get by on Sharp, Didzy and one other is bonkers. Robinson is not an out and out striker. I expect him to play up front now and then but mostly behind the front two or on rare occasions behind a lone striker.
 
All fair points, but wouldn't we be a bit overloaded there? I'd expect Freeman to play the Duffy role. But then you'd have Morrison as back up but also Didzy and Robinson who could play there. All fighting to play behind two new strikers.

Compare that to CM, RCB, LWB, GK or LWB and we seem well over-stocked. I know Chris likes 2 for each position.

Has there been any signs in pre-season that we'll play with 2 attacking midfielders behind a loan striker? We certainly currently don't have the personnel to do that.
 

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