CONFIRMED Oliver McBurnie

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FriethBlade said:
McBurnie or Maupay could be the difference between staying up or going down so what does that make them worth ?
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Agree but it’s so dangerous to think we receive over 100 million in the PL so let’s gamble and overspend paying above marker values because we are desperate.

Imagine if we spent 60 million on transfers and gave loads of players massive contracts.
What if we still got relegated. We would well and truely be up shit creek.

You can bet many on here would turn be saying how stupid and reckless the board were to spend 40 million on Maupay and McBurnie
They would say they were 1 season wonders and it was obvious that they were only average Championship standard.

Talking about 1 season wonders i’ll be very interested to see how Pukki gets on for Norwich.
His cv is so underwhelming, quite poor everywhere then has an unbelievable season last year.
 

Torrix1889 said:
And the same goes for McBurnie & Maupay so why the fuck are they worth £20m plus?
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Thats todays market. If they scored 15 to 20 goals for us next season they'd be worth double.

Egan/JOC - current value to me would be £18/20m - again, do it on the PL for a season or more then your looking at double.
 
Some of our players must be worth mega bucks if this is the going rate.

Sharp ?
Dids ?

Age not on their side admittedly which will impact. But they were the most prolific pairing in the Championship last season !!

McBurnie NOT the answer btw and I’ll confidently predict he won’t cut it in the PL. So at £15m +, we should be moving our attention elsewhere, and at speed !

Happy to be proved wrong 👍

UTB
 
HeCanDoMagic said:
Whilst I agree we should value Egan, JOC and likes very highly and their value has undoubtedly risen. We do need to remember they have not yet produced at PL level - the likes of Dunk have been consistently high performers there.
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This is true but if Mings is going for 26mil we can now confidently be asking that for O'Connell.
 
Mentioned the sale of Brooks earlier as an example of how transfer fees might be viewed by other clubs.
Anyway, seem to recall someone saying last season that 'we've yet to even touch the brooks money yet' so with us now buying the likes of Freeman and Robinson can we assume that this 'bit' has now possibly been used up, along with some of the Adams 'sell on' money, and in which case we'll probably soon be dipping into the Premier League budget right?? . . . . . . . . . . Gets tin hat, puts on head and awaits being slaughtered for not understanding or having any real concept about just how much player loans costs, wages, agents fees etc. etc. . . . . . . . . . .
;)
 
Ungrateful Taffy barstewards, I haven’t forgotten that we gave them back their club legend Leon Brittan for fuck all not long ago
 
FriethBlade said:
The good news is these prices put a massive value on our squad. If Dunk is worth 45m what are Egan and OConnell worth ?

The bad news is if we want to sign these kind of players we are going to have to get used to being 'ripped off'. McBurnie or Maupay could be the difference between staying up or going down so what does that make them worth ?
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Does make you wonder . The problem with the increased revenues from sky tv etc leads to bigger transfer fees / wages / agents fees etc etc. It’s mind numbing and seemingly never ending .
 
Both Mcburnie and Maupay must be made of fucking gold.
 

Taking a step back, the optimistic side of me is wondering why Swansea have made our bid (and the consequential rejection) public as these matters are usually kept pretty quiet . . . . . . . unless you're trying to show the supporters that you haven't accepted the 1st 'official' bid that's come along and that the club then negotiated the highest price possible having accepted a further, improved, but 'undisclosed bid' - all after the initial enquiry had 'unsettled' said player of course??
Alternatively, like others have suggested, they've probably made such an official approach public to merely drum up more interest so they can sell him for more money to (insert any other Premier League team outside the top 10 who may be in need of a striker).
 
HeCanDoMagic said:
Whilst I agree we should value Egan, JOC and likes very highly and their value has undoubtedly risen. We do need to remember they have not yet produced at PL level - the likes of Dunk have been consistently high performers there.
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7 clean sheets last season
 
These two strikers were included in CW's wish list based on his assessment of their value. Based on their stupid valuations by the clubs for their untested players ( in the Premier) I am sure United will be reassessing the market and exploring other fields.

We don't want to be caught up in the hysteria and end up with buyer's remorse and stuck with 'a pig in a poke'.
Yes we do need players but these two are not the only two 'Messiahs' out there.
In Wilder we trust. UTB!!
 
Zone Man said:
Taking a step back, the optimistic side of me is wondering why Swansea have made our bid (and the consequential rejection) public as these matters are usually kept pretty quiet . . . . . . . unless you're trying to show the supporters that you haven't accepted the 1st 'official' bid that's come along and that the club then negotiated the highest price possible having accepted a further, improved, but 'undisclosed bid' - all after the initial enquiry had 'unsettled' said player of course??
Alternatively, like others have suggested, they've probably made such an official approach public to merely drum up more interest so they can sell him for more money to (insert any other Premier League team outside the top 10 who may be in need of a striker).
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Yeah they've made it public because they do have to sell him and they're hoping for more moolah than our £15m. This is where some semblance of a foreign scouting network would actually save us some money. Domestic strikers are f*cking expensive. Maybe we could just plant a mole in Brentford and find out who they're planning to sign. But as Th!stledo just said, In Wilder we trust!
 
Wow - there are certainly a lot of dealmakers on here! It's impossible to know what exactly has been offered and what has been discussed. These things tend to take time. Let Bettis & co get on with it - they'll be clear on red lines and how much CW feels each target is worth.

It is worth remembering that McBurnie is now Swansea's most valuable asset so they'll understandably looking to get as much as possible for him. Given their financial pressures (and the reason Birch is there), I would expect them to sell eventually but whether a deal can be done remains to be seen.

I'm not sure how many suitors he'll have. In addition to Utd, Brighton are likely but beyond them, who else is there? West Brom appear to be the only Champ side with money to spend and outside bets may be Palace, Newcastle and Bournemouth. If CW is keen and if what has been reported that McBurnie would welcome a move back up north, then you'd think Utd would stand a decent chance.
 
The one lesson I would take from all of this is, the sooner you can get your business done, the better.
 
BarryBigtime said:
The one lesson I would take from all of this is, the sooner you can get your business done, the better.
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Of course but doing deals earlier in summer is also likely to cost you more.

Given CW's affinity for getting the best possible value for money, I can understand why some deals are taking longer and some may not happen at all.
 
LondonBlade89 said:
Eh? In this market, you're only getting your business done early by paying over the odds. These teams aren't gradually inflating the asking price over time.
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I don't agree, as you'd never truly know if you overpaid or not. One thing is for sure, you likely avoid a bidding war and get more time with the player to train and get them up to speed tactically. You also avoid all the stress and sh*t that comes with agents playing you off against another club. Plus in McBurnie's case, Swansea got a huge chunk for James' so can now afford to play a little harder than they may have done in say, May.
 
LondonBlade89 said:
Eh? In this market, you're only getting your business done early by paying over the odds. These teams aren't gradually inflating the asking price over time.
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Is that based on actual facts? I'd say the closer you get to the window closing, the more expensive players get as desperation takes hold. At least earlier in the window, clubs have a chance to replace their outgoing players.

There's no doubt a sweet spot.
 

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