Us and Villa....

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Someone start a rumour that we're linked with Sam Morsy and within 24 hours Villa will be too.

Guaranteed.
 
It could go one of two ways for Villa, next season’s Wolves or next season’s Fulham.
 
Naaaarrwich seem to be very quiet. I hope the German porn star thinks Pukki is all they need.

To date, since season end, they’ve done better business than us. We’ve brought in a championship level midfielder, they’ve brought in a Swiss international with Bundesliga experience, a keeper with champs league & Bundesliga experience and an attacking midfielder with La Liga, Scottish prem & champs league experience.
 
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Y. Their manager is the get on with it quietly type. They'll do better than people think next season. Like we will.

They won’t. They’ll be one of the three teams relegated, in either bottom or second from bottom position. Unless you mean they’ll put up a bit of a fight.
 
Villa have spent a lot but on what? Smith is an arrogant cock and I think they are the new Fulham.
 
Don’t agree on Smith, apart from getting Villa up last year to me his record doesn’t seem particularly impressive

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I think you need to add the context of who he was managing and where.

Walsall not exactly big hitters when in League One. Likewise Brentford in the Championship.

If Wilder loses more than he wins next year, but keeps us up, would you class him as not particularly impressive?
 
I like our prudent approach to player recruitment. I’d like it to go faster, but I still like it.
 
I think you need to add the context of who he was managing and where.

Walsall not exactly big hitters when in League One. Likewise Brentford in the Championship.

If Wilder loses more than he wins next year, but keeps us up, would you class him as not particularly impressive?

Not worth discussing at length but in my view his record across the two doesn’t suggest that he’s going to be the difference for Villa this year (the claim in the post I replied to originally).

Arguably he overachieved at Walsall but by the same token you could argue he underachieved at Brentford (e.g. 5th under Warburton but never higher than 9th under Smith, despite having a squad with more quality than most in the championship).
 



Not worth discussing at length but in my view his record across the two doesn’t suggest that he’s going to be the difference for Villa this year (the claim in the post I replied to originally).

Arguably he overachieved at Walsall but by the same token you could argue he underachieved at Brentford (e.g. 5th under Warburton but never higher than 9th under Smith, despite having a squad with more quality than most in the championship).
On that we agree. He's basically spent about 60-80m on restoring the team that finished well behind us in the Championship and whom we put 7 past.

This is what made Wilder's team all the more remarkable than Lampard's or Smith's efforts. Not much of a legacy for Lampard when you remove Wilson, Mount and Tomori straight away. Likewise Villa have splashed loads on getting El Ghauzi, Mings, Hause, Wesley in lieu of Abraham. Then they added Jota and Target. Ok top 6 Championship additions but even then, by no means best of the best.
 
Trouble with Villa is they’ve got a Chris Wilder type manager in charge........ With a tad more money in his skyrocket. There’s a good chance they’re gonna fancy the same sort of player, but offer them better wages.
 
Villa have spent A LOT but for the sums they've paid and the total they've spent, you'd expect much more premier league quality.
 

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