Joe Lolley

[Ricky]

Just say it pal, who are we in for?

Just attention seeking then...

 

[Chali 2na]

Confirmed seen in Copthorne this week with Knill & Chrissy

Confirmed by who?

 

[Ricky]

Kalvin Phillips is the one he was referring to then, I assume. Yeah..... really controversial.

He was going to be my next shout after Reach.

I've thought for a while he'd fit in well with us and is exactly Wilder's type of player. Realistic though? Only if Leeds stay down. And even then, maybe not.

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

Lucas Joao would be worth another look

Not for me. He is now 26, been at Hillsborough for quite a while, and yet unable to tie down a place in a poor Championship team.

 

[super_pig]

Even if we spent say 15 million on player season like Bowen and Robinson etc ..

They’ll be resaleable so it’s not money down the drain

Just don’t sign 30 odd has beens

and French second division nobodies with ‘potential’

 

[Good Pinch Of Snuff]

Richard Cadette spill the beans please. Heinz

 

[Pinchy]

Players mentioned who I wouldn’t want us to sign for the Premier League:
Luke Freeman
Lukas Jutkiewicz
Lucas Joao
Jordan Rhodes
Adam Reach
Jarrod Bowen
Callum Robinson
Kalvin Phillips
Nick Fucking Montgomery.

Not good enough, any of them. Championship players, the lot of ‘em. We need better. If we simply sign good second-tier players we’ll revert to being a good second-tier team.

Players who are likely (in my view) to be good enough and will only get better with us.

Dean Henderson
Neil Maupay
Ollie McBurnie
Kieran Dowell
Joe Lolley
Che Adams
Kasey Palmer.

Tufty, of course, will be after some but not all of the above and also some that none of us have even thought of. He won’t be interested in Lee Fucking Gregory.

I’ll back Wilder, One-Knill and Mitchell to get it right. They are plotting our future as we speak:

 

[maxstertheblade]

We're after Kasey Palmer, Harry Wilson, McBurnie and obviously Henderson. Lolley wasn't mentioned but he'd be a great signing. There's another one who we're monitoring but I'll not mention his name because nobody would believe me

FF?

 

[Lmaobob]

FF?

Football Focus is no longer on TV now that the season is over.

Can we stick to suggesting real transfer targets please?

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Players mentioned who I wouldn’t want us to sign for the Premier League:

Jarrod Bowen
Callum Robinson
Not good enough, any of them. Championship players, the lot of ‘em. We need better. If we simply sign good second-tier players we’ll revert to being a good second-tier team.

John Fleck, George Baldock, Enda Stevens all signed from lower leagues....

Both the players you mentioned will play in the Premier League.

 

[BerksBlade]

John Fleck, George Baldock, Enda Stevens all signed from lower leagues....
Both the players you mentioned will play in the Premier League.

Not sure Bowen or Robinson are a good fit with our system?
Bowen at least looks likely to be a PL player next season. Already been interest from Burnley, Southampton & Bournemouth, now Leicester reputed to be tabling a £15m bid.

 

[cjx blade]

John Fleck, George Baldock, Enda Stevens all signed from lower leagues....

Both the players you mentioned will play in the Premier League.

Think he's being tongue in cheek mate, the second list he recommends also all played in the second tier last year. Well I hope so anyway.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Think he's being tongue in cheek mate, the second list he recommends also all played in the second tier last year. Well I hope so anyway.

He definitely isn't.

 

[itsinyerblood]

John Fleck, George Baldock, Enda Stevens all signed from lower leagues....

Both the players you mentioned will play in the Premier League.

Not being contentious Scooter, but the players in question have still to prove they're equipped to play at Prem level. Naturally I hope they do well, but in a few months we'll discover who's good enough and who isn't.

 

[Hartley Hare]

Ollie McBurnie is a scruffy sod.

He needs a pair of sock garters and I will happily acquire a pair for him if he should sign for our team.

HH

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Not being contentious Scooter, but the players in question have still to prove they're equipped to play at Prem level. Naturally I hope they do well, but in a few months we'll discover who's good enough and who isn't.

Ahh, but these players weren't championship players either.

 

[HydeParkBlade]

Players mentioned who I wouldn’t want us to sign for the Premier League:
Luke Freeman
Lukas Jutkiewicz
Lucas Joao
Jordan Rhodes
Adam Reach
Jarrod Bowen
Callum Robinson
Kalvin Phillips
Nick Fucking Montgomery.

Not good enough, any of them. Championship players, the lot of ‘em. We need better. If we simply sign good second-tier players we’ll revert to being a good second-tier team.

Players who are likely (in my view) to be good enough and will only get better with us.

Dean Henderson
Neil Maupay
Ollie McBurnie
Kieran Dowell
Joe Lolley
Che Adams
Kasey Palmer.

Tufty, of course, will be after some but not all of the above and also some that none of us have even thought of. He won’t be interested in Lee Fucking Gregory.

I’ll back Wilder, One-Knill and Mitchell to get it right. They are plotting our future as we speak:

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I agree but I'd move Bowen and Phillips to list B.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Ahh, but these players weren't championship players either.

And they proved they were able to compete with the Championship's best. I'm not suggesting that they don't get a chance, just that the demands of the Prem will be harder than any other division. We'll all be wiser within a few months.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

And they proved they were able to compete with the Championship's best. I'm not suggesting that they don't get a chance, just that the demands of the Prem will be harder than any other division. We'll all be wiser within a few months.

Oh indeed, but his reasoning that if you buy lower league players, you end up a lower league team is clearly incorrect.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Oh indeed, but his reasoning that if you buy lower league players, you end up a lower league team is clearly incorrect.

My view is that every signing is a gamble, and just because a player hasn't been given the opportunity at a higher level it doesn't mean that they won't be able to compete. It's a difficult question, and we'll certainly need Prem experience, but a player outside of the Prem who appears to have that something extra is always worth consideration.

 

[Pinchy]

Oh indeed, but his reasoning that if you buy lower league players, you end up a lower league team is clearly incorrect.

Some players may be in a lower league but with the capacity to step up. That’s the basis in which I’ve separated the the ones I think can from the ones I think can’t, rather than which League they are currently in. Otherwise my second list would be completely at odds with my terms of reference and I would be suggesting only Premier League players.

Maupay, Palmer and McBurnie for example, are all only 22 and bristling with potential. Imagine them in a couple of years. Contrast Freeman who is 27. Someone would have noticed by now if he were good enough for the Premier League.

I’ve seen Kalvin Phillips a few times. Not impressed. He looks well short of the required standard to me. If we must look at Dirty Corrupt Leeds, Tyler Roberts is a superior player.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Some players may be in a lower league but with the capacity to step up. That’s the basis in which I’ve separated the the ones I think can from the ones I think can’t, rather than which League they are currently in. Otherwise my second list would be completely at odds with my terms of reference and I would be suggesting only Premier League players.

Maupay, Palmer and McBurnie for example, are all only 22 and bristling with potential. Imagine them in a couple of years. Contrast Freeman who is 27. Someone would have noticed by now if he were good enough for the Premier League.

I’ve seen Kalvin Phillips a few times. Not impressed. He looks well short of the required standard to me. If we must look at Dirty Corrupt Leeds, Tyler Roberts is a superior player.

Whilst I agreed with the majority, surely the likes or Bowen and Robinson fall into the same category and have performed well despite playing for the lesser performing clubs.

 

[Pinchy]

Whilst I agreed with the majority, surely the likes or Bowen and Robinson fall into the same category and have performed well despite playing for the lesser performing clubs.

Yes, just my personal opinion as to which are on the right side of the dividing line.

On the few occasions I’ve seen Robinson this (last) season he looked well short of his standards from the season before.

As for Bowen he seems to be the current ‘player in vogue’. He looks pretty ‘nowt special’ on my admittedly limited observations of him. I suspect people are substantially overrating him when I read expressions like ‘heaven’ at the thought of signing him. Anyway, he’s a winger isn’t he?

My number one target would be Maupay. He’s a real talent. He can play up front and just behind, giving us flexibility in addition to his other obvious qualities.

 

[sheffielder]

Some players may be in a lower league but with the capacity to step up. That’s the basis in which I’ve separated the the ones I think can from the ones I think can’t, rather than which League they are currently in. Otherwise my second list would be completely at odds with my terms of reference and I would be suggesting only Premier League players.

Maupay, Palmer and McBurnie for example, are all only 22 and bristling with potential. Imagine them in a couple of years. Contrast Freeman who is 27. Someone would have noticed by now if he were good enough for the Premier League.

I’ve seen Kalvin Phillips a few times. Not impressed. He looks well short of the required standard to me. If we must look at Dirty Corrupt Leeds, Tyler Roberts is a superior player.

Palmer hasn’t done enough at any of his loan clubs to say he could do it in the fucking prem.

Moving to upfront I think we should be looking at someone like Maupay as you say and someone who is not an out and out striker like Robinson, Bowen, Murphy (Cardiff, winger but can play up top) there are going to be games where we can’t play 2 strikers

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Yes, just my personal opinion as to which are on the right side of the dividing line.

On the few occasions I’ve seen Robinson this (last) season he looked well short of his standards from the season before.

As for Bowen he seems to be the current ‘player in vogue’. He looks pretty ‘nowt special’ on my admittedly limited observations of him. I suspect people are substantially overrating him when I read expressions like ‘heaven’ at the thought of signing him. Anyway, he’s a winger isn’t he?

My number one target would be Maupay. He’s a real talent. He can play up front and just behind, giving us flexibility in addition to his other obvious qualities.

He's the obvious choice, however I reckon they'd be wanting north of 15m

 

[Pinchy]

Palmer hasn’t done enough at any of his loan clubs to say he could do it in the fucking prem.

Moving to upfront I think we should be looking at someone like Maupay as you say and someone who is not an out and out striker like Robinson, Bowen, Murphy (Cardiff, winger but can play up top) there are going to be games where we can’t play 2 strikers

I’d say Maupay would be the one who is not the ‘out and out striker’. Apparently his hero is Zidane and he himself is quoted as saying he can play ‘out wide’ or ‘number ten’. From what I’ve seen of him he could certainly do the latter.

Personally I’d go for McBurnie as the out and out striker. He seems to me to have all the attributes that Wilder likes. A real handful of a centre-forward and can play.

 

[Pinchy]

He's the obvious choice, however I reckon they'd be wanting north of 15m

That’s a bit steep, but if we want Premiership players...

 

[Ricky]

Robinson would have had at least 20 goals had he not missed 4 months through injury. He's been outstanding and wouldn't cost as much as players who are no better. Very flexible player too so definitely worth signing for me.

Maupay and McBurnie would cost at least £30m combined. That's really pushing it. One or the other surely, McBurnie for me.

As for age, different player types develop at different times. 'Brain' players like CBs and Duffy types (Freeman) are more likely to keep developing well beyond their mid 20s. Identifying some later developers is a way we can be smart and stretch our budget.

 

[Ranmoorblade]

Robinson would have had at least 20 goals had he not missed 4 months through injury. He's been outstanding and wouldn't cost as much as players who are no better. Very flexible player too so definitely worth signing for me.

Maupay and McBurnie would cost at least £30m combined. That's really pushing it. One or the other surely, McBurnie for me.

As for age, different player types develop at different times. 'Brain' players like CBs and Duffy types (Freeman) are more likely to keep developing well beyond their mid 20s. Identifying some later developers is a way we can be smart and stretch our budget.

McBurnie for me also, he's more clinical in front of goal.

 

[BerksBlade]

Aston Villa will begin their preparations for the Premier League by bidding £10m for Nottingham Forest's 26-year-old English forward Joe Lolley.

I would have thought Forest would ask a lot more than £10m?