So. Who thinks we'll do it?

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i hope so. 1 game at a time, dont look ahead, other it can throw a big spanner in the works. some the greatest sportsmans have seen the finish line & collapsed through nerves.
 
Yes.Since the mad 10 minutes against Villa the players mental attitude has been such that I can't see us dropping below Leeds.Plus we have a Manager that will keep them completely focused on getting to the "promised land"even though the mantra will be "one game at a time".
It's only some of us that think differently because of some failures in the past but remember there have been some great times as well and I believe this is one of them.
 
If we win the next 2 then I’d only be lying to myself by saying “let’s see, still 6 to go”.

Next 2 are against dangerous opposition who have it all still to play for and then after that it’s teams with potentially nothing to play for. Maybe Millwall will still need points.

We’ve been consistent enough all season, so I don’t fear a bad performance, but football is a funny old game.
 
We've Had A Great Season No Matter What Happens Play Offs Is A Great Achievement

Take yourself back to the start of the season and imagine being told we'll finish above:

West Brom
Stoke
Middlesbrough
Villa
Forest
Derby
Swansea

and Wednesday? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
We'll have to hope it does go to the wire, because if it doesn't it will mean we've fallen out of the race

Not necessarily, in a perfect world Leeds or Norwich could collapse and we go up without it going to the last day, unlikely I know but possible.
 
I think we will do, as we can more than match Leeds’ results. Plus, Wilder will want a longer holiday.
 
The play-offs are bollocks, lets all be honest about it.

Noone likes them - not even the people that aren't in them. Totally unfair that after a 46-game season where you can be far and away the 3rd best team in the league that you have to go through the rigmarole.

At the very least, there should be some advantages in the play-offs for finishing higher. Personally, i'd say:

Game 1: 5th v 6th (home advantage for 5th)

Game 2: 4th v Winner Game 1 (home advantage for 4th)

Game 3: 3rd v Winner Game 2 (home advantage for 3rd)

They'd never implement this, and even if they did the last game would have to be at Wembley to pay off the debt, but if you must say that a full 46 game season isn't enough to give 3rd place promotion when they've proven themselves better / more consistent over a prolonged period, then they should at least be handed a significant advantage.
 
I didn't think we'd do it before beating Leeds if honest. Now I think we'll do it, but if we lose or draw to Bristol then I think we won't do it. I think I'm undecided :D

I do think we'll beat Bristol though!
 

I think we’ll do it. Would love it to be at a canter like it was 2 years ago but think it’ll be alot tighter. I do however think it maybe sorted before the last game of the season.
 
I hope so, I really do. With every atom of my being.

You can stand the despair. It’s the hope that kills you. UTFB.
 
Do I think so? ... No.
Do I hope so? ...Yes
Via the play offs? .... Kill me now I can't face another one.
Have I watched the Blades too long to know we will do our best to throw it away? .... Probably/Definitley/Maybe
UTB ❤️⚔️⚽
 
Rocking? Haven’t they won six on the bounce?
:D

It's called, "let's see who can be the first one to predict failure". It's a good game, because if you get it right you can claim some sort of sixth-sense, or wisdom, over others. And one thing's for sure, you will be right eventually.
 
The play-offs are bollocks, lets all be honest about it.

Noone likes them - not even the people that aren't in them. Totally unfair that after a 46-game season where you can be far and away the 3rd best team in the league that you have to go through the rigmarole.

At the very least, there should be some advantages in the play-offs for finishing higher. Personally, i'd say:

Game 1: 5th v 6th (home advantage for 5th)

Game 2: 4th v Winner Game 1 (home advantage for 4th)

Game 3: 3rd v Winner Game 2 (home advantage for 3rd)

They'd never implement this, and even if they did the last game would have to be at Wembley to pay off the debt, but if you must say that a full 46 game season isn't enough to give 3rd place promotion when they've proven themselves better / more consistent over a prolonged period, then they should at least be handed a significant advantage.

Before the play-offs, you could finish 3rd in the league and that was it. End of your season. You might as well have finished third from bottom. You were going nowhere. End of. Kaput. Finito. You'd prefer that then would you, rather than have a chance at promotion?

For some clubs the season finished early - because the top 2 were un-catchable by Feb or March. So, nothing to play for if not in the top two. I've been to many "end of season games" which have just been a pointless stroll in the park, often with the club fielding players from the reserve side to give them experience. Because we were neither going up or going down.

The play-offs have changed all that. They keep the season alive for MOST teams in the division, right up until the end. At the present time, any of the top 10 could go up and any of the bottom 8 could go down. That's 18 teams out of 24 whose season is still very much alive, with everything to play for, with just 8 games left. Personally I think it's brilliant and far better than the old system.

Do I enjoy the play-offs? Absolutely I do. I love watching them. I find them so interesting that I try and watch all of them, in each division, no matter who's playing. I think there's nothing better than seeing two teams battling it out knowing that there is so much at stake over the 2 games. It's exciting. Of course it's horrible to watch if you're on the losing side - as us Blades know only too well. But it's great drama.

Is it unfair? Yes, I suppose you could say it is. Especially if you finish higher, buy some considerable points margin, to those below you. But in that case, you should be able to beat them over 2 games shouldn't you? I appreciate that football is also a game of chance - and luck could be against you and it could all blow up in your face. And that's what's happened to us on so many occasions - but that's no reason to curse the system. It's every reason to curse our luck though!
 
Before the play-offs, you could finish 3rd in the league and that was it. End of your season. You might as well have finished third from bottom. You were going nowhere. End of. Kaput. Finito. You'd prefer that then would you, rather than have a chance at promotion?

For some clubs the season finished early - because the top 2 were un-catchable by Feb or March. So, nothing to play for if not in the top two. I've been to many "end of season games" which have just been a pointless stroll in the park, often with the club fielding players from the reserve side to give them experience. Because we were neither going up or going down.

The play-offs have changed all that. They keep the season alive for MOST teams in the division, right up until the end. At the present time, any of the top 10 could go up and any of the bottom 8 could go down. That's 18 teams out of 24 whose season is still very much alive, with everything to play for, with just 8 games left. Personally I think it's brilliant and far better than the old system.

Do I enjoy the play-offs? Absolutely I do. I love watching them. I find them so interesting that I try and watch all of them, in each division, no matter who's playing. I think there's nothing better than seeing two teams battling it out knowing that there is so much at stake over the 2 games. It's exciting. Of course it's horrible to watch if you're on the losing side - as us Blades know only too well. But it's great drama.

Is it unfair? Yes, I suppose you could say it is. Especially if you finish higher, buy some considerable points margin, to those below you. But in that case, you should be able to beat them over 2 games shouldn't you? I appreciate that football is also a game of chance - and luck could be against you and it could all blow up in your face. And that's what's happened to us on so many occasions - but that's no reason to curse the system. It's every reason to curse our luck though!

The top 3 used to go up automatically, not just the top 2.
 
If i'm honest with myself, I can see us just missing out. Mostly based just on too many previous experiences like this, but I can't undo that feeling.

And that's the feeling that most fans will privately harbour. But look at the reality:

While none of our last games are 'easy', there's not a single one to be frightened about. A chunk of the season left and there's no 'ticking bombs' out there - no Leeds, West Brom, Norwich (or Wednesday) left. In fact, no team currently in the top six. We've recently played these ticking bombs and come through magnificently.

We've certainly not been 'lucky' in any game. In fact, just one goal in 90+ minutes all season would say the opposite. We're overdue just one 'Shipperley moment' (v. Hull 8/4/06), one 'Deane moment' (v. Port Vale 21/4/90) where you just feel that nothing can stop us. And if we have a 'Leeds game' (16/4/90) or a 'Ken Knighton/Hull game' (9/3/71) it won't be the end of the world. There will be at least one glitch before this season is done - could be today, could be Ipswich who knows? But that goes for Leeds and Norwich.

This team and manager are - like 1989/90 - something very special. As are the crowd.

Eight cup finals left. Nervous as fuck, yes. But also very excited. Who wouldn't have taken this at the start of the season? The worst we can do is fail in the play-offs. But then we'll be back again next season.

Are the gates open yet?
 
It won't be for lack of trying if we don't.
Wilder is relentless, remember the promotion season when we were promoted and we thought he'd perhaps play a few kids/more Brooks/2nd string?
Wilder was having none of it, he pushed that team to the title and 100 points, and he'll push this team as far as he can.
 
All the Leeds fans I’ve spoken to think they’re done for in relation to top two. They sound just like we usually do.

Means nothing though if they win Saturday and we don’t then they’ll be all but up again you watch!


I think that is exactly why most Leeds fans including myself don’t think it’s over. One draw from you guys let’s us back, with it not having to be a loss, whilst your form & defensively is great you won’t play well until the end of the season they’ll be off days. I’m actually happy we’re in 3rd & chasing for the time being as the fans will feel the pressure that it’s yours to lose. One team digging in for a 0-0 against you & Leeds winning at the same time, the pressure will be great on the players, it’s if the can handle that, I honestly couldn’t call it I’d love norwhich to bottle it & is both go up but I don’t know.
 
I think that is exactly why most Leeds fans including myself don’t think it’s over. One draw from you guys let’s us back, with it not having to be a loss, whilst your form & defensively is great you won’t play well until the end of the season they’ll be off days. I’m actually happy we’re in 3rd & chasing for the time being as the fans will feel the pressure that it’s yours to lose. One team digging in for a 0-0 against you & Leeds winning at the same time, the pressure will be great on the players, it’s if the can handle that, I honestly couldn’t call it I’d love norwhich to bottle it & is both go up but I don’t know.
Much as I might like that I’m afraid Norwich look like there off. Today will be tough for them but after that it looks much more straightforward than for us or you
 
Before the play-offs, you could finish 3rd in the league and that was it. End of your season. You might as well have finished third from bottom. You were going nowhere. End of. Kaput. Finito. You'd prefer that then would you, rather than have a chance at promotion?

For some clubs the season finished early - because the top 2 were un-catchable by Feb or March. So, nothing to play for if not in the top two. I've been to many "end of season games" which have just been a pointless stroll in the park, often with the club fielding players from the reserve side to give them experience. Because we were neither going up or going down.

The play-offs have changed all that. They keep the season alive for MOST teams in the division, right up until the end. At the present time, any of the top 10 could go up and any of the bottom 8 could go down. That's 18 teams out of 24 whose season is still very much alive, with everything to play for, with just 8 games left. Personally I think it's brilliant and far better than the old system.

Do I enjoy the play-offs? Absolutely I do. I love watching them. I find them so interesting that I try and watch all of them, in each division, no matter who's playing. I think there's nothing better than seeing two teams battling it out knowing that there is so much at stake over the 2 games. It's exciting. Of course it's horrible to watch if you're on the losing side - as us Blades know only too well. But it's great drama.

Is it unfair? Yes, I suppose you could say it is. Especially if you finish higher, buy some considerable points margin, to those below you. But in that case, you should be able to beat them over 2 games shouldn't you? I appreciate that football is also a game of chance - and luck could be against you and it could all blow up in your face. And that's what's happened to us on so many occasions - but that's no reason to curse the system. It's every reason to curse our luck though!
I appreciate your point of view, but I'm afraid we are just going to have to disagree on this one. I might have more sympathy for this line of reasoning if there was a play-off for the last relegation place (bottom 2 auto, third-bottom through 6th bottom have a play-off, for example, or even just a 2-legger between 22nd and 21st), but we don't. So how is it that the three teams that have been the most dogshit over the course of the season don't get a second chance to stay up, but the team in third that has proven itself the third-best team over those same number of games has to go through a 3-game lottery?

So yeah - I disagree wholeheartedly with your thoughts on the play-offs, but they're your views and you're entitled to them.
 

I appreciate your point of view, but I'm afraid we are just going to have to disagree on this one. I might have more sympathy for this line of reasoning if there was a play-off for the last relegation place (bottom 2 auto, third-bottom through 6th bottom have a play-off, for example, or even just a 2-legger between 22nd and 21st), but we don't. So how is it that the three teams that have been the most dogshit over the course of the season don't get a second chance to stay up, but the team in third that has proven itself the third-best team over those same number of games has to go through a 3-game lottery?

So yeah - I disagree wholeheartedly with your thoughts on the play-offs, but they're your views and you're entitled to them.

That’s a totally different argument. Your argument is about making it a similar play off situation for the bottom 3. (That’s been tried btw and didn’t work). The argument against that is “achievement”, not failure, deserves to be rewarded. By allowing clubs who’ve been dross all season to have a get out of jail card isn’t rewarding achievement. By rewarding clubs who’ve been good all season to have another chance after narrowly missing out, is.

I’m arguing against your point that the “play offs are bollocks and no one likes them”. And I’ve given you some good reasons why that’s not the case.

Anyhow, tell me this...

If we finish 3rd this season would you prefer that’s it. End of. No play offs?

If so I suspect you’re in a minority of Blades fans and football fans in general.
 

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