Lundstram

[GuangzhouBlade]

Well done most ridiculous post of the year so far ,and that takes some doing

Based on what ? What is so ridiculous to suggest a 30 year old, coming back from a serious injury, who has never been anywhere near the premier league is good enough for a team serious about promotion. Norwood is on another level entirely and has 3 promotions to the PL on his CV. Im merely suggesting that we need more players of Norwood's calibre not Coutts, if we are serious about going up?

Who out of our promotion rivals would buy Coutts or Lundstram?

 

[broomhillblade]

We don't seem to have any youngsters pushing to get in the senior squad at the moment. Does the Academy need a shake-up?

 

[sitwell]

Based on what ? What is so ridiculous to suggest a 30 year old, coming back from a serious injury, who has never been anywhere near the premier league is good enough for a team serious about promotion. Norwood is on another level entirely and has 3 promotions to the PL on his CV. Im merely suggesting that we need more players of Norwood's calibre not Coutts, if we are serious about going up?

Who out of our promotion rivals would buy Coutts or Lundstram?

Hove you watched Sheff Utd play in the last 3 years ? If so you are wasting your time because if you cant see what a talented footballer Coutts is you really have no idea.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

There were rumours recently linking us with Jordan Mutch. I’m not sure whether he’s the answer, or not. But we do need to bring some cover in as it’s starting to become clear now that John Lundstram isn’t up to it and I don’t think Paul Coutts is going to reach the level we need from him this season (over 90 minutes). We’ll struggle in a big way if Norwood, or Fleck take an injury / suspension.

 

[Revolution]

Hove you watched Sheff Utd play in the last 3 years ? If so you are wasting your time because if you cant see what a talented footballer Coutts is you really have no idea.

Was, not is.

The jury is still out on whether he still is.

He's been in two situations since coming back where the onus is on him to do something- Forest away and yesterday. He did nothing in either game.

 

[S40BLADE]

Light reminder that Coutts BROKE HIS FUCKING LEG cut the man some fucking slack and he is far from being on the list of players that need moving on

 

[fuerstenberger]

I like Lundstram. Needs a good run in the team. Just my opinion. A lot of sense in Ginger Gnome's post.
Kean Ryan, looked a bit dispraxic to me. Know he can't be.

 

[Ricky]

Based on what ? What is so ridiculous to suggest a 30 year old, coming back from a serious injury, who has never been anywhere near the premier league is good enough for a team serious about promotion. Norwood is on another level entirely and has 3 promotions to the PL on his CV. Im merely suggesting that we need more players of Norwood's calibre not Coutts, if we are serious about going up?

Who out of our promotion rivals would buy Coutts or Lundstram?

To say Norwood is on another level entirely to the Coutts of last season is complete bollocks.

 

[sitwell]

Was, not is.

The jury is still out on whether he still is.

He's been in two situations since coming back where the onus is on him to do something- Forest away and yesterday. He did nothing in either game.

Absolute tripe and when he starts running games again for us you no doubtedly be one of those who saw what a good player he (is/was !!) all along. I really do think we are up against it with some people who watch us sometimes.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

For those righting coutts off, they would do well to remember how long it too for him to regain confidence and fitness after his previous injuries.

We won’t see the best of him until next year imo. But he still has lots to contribute!

We are in the fortunate position that Norwood is filling that whole and we didn’t have that last year.

Lunstram just isn’t good enough at this level. Decent league one player or maybe championship in an different system, but the results with him in the side aren’t a coincidence imo.

 

[Large Mendonca]

Yeah ok Coutts is very effective in the championship but next time you see him play, take a look at his left foot. It’s one of my bugbears I’m afraid, I just can’t accept professional footballers who earn the money they do be so deficient with their weaker foot. Ffs they have plenty of downtime, work on it !

 

[S40BLADE]

Yeah ok Coutts is very effective in the championship but next time you see him play, take a look at his left foot. It’s one of my bugbears I’m afraid, I just can’t accept professional footballers who earn the money they do be so deficient with their weaker foot. Ffs they have plenty of downtime, work on it !

any excuse to post this

 

[Bladezz]

Yesterday he was better than Coutts.

 

[Large Mendonca]

any excuse to post this

QED

Can’t for the life of me think why he chooses not to use it in the middle of the park

 

[snootyfenooty]

The biggest issue with Lundstram is, he doesn't know what type of midfielder he wants to be, he doesn't seem to be naturally aligned to any type of role.

He's not a natural box to box centre mid, he's not nimble enough and hasn't got the engine for that.
He's not a no.10, he hasn't got the attacking instinct, feet, movement or finesse for that, he looks lost around the penalty area.
He's not a holding midfielder, when he tried to plug the gap left by Coutts last year he looked awful at that.

So what does that leave? He's not particularly quick as he's too much of a unit, but he doesn't use his size either to dominate in the centre of the park. He doesn't sit deep but not does he push forward and there's large parts of the game where passages of play just seem to unfold and develop quicker than he can anticipate, it's almost like he can't read the game quick enough.

I'm stumped. I feel like there ought to be the attributes of a good player in there, but so far, I'm far from convinced.

You've just illustrated perfectly there as to why he's a shit footballer.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

You've just illustrated perfectly there as to why he's a shit footballer.

Why thank you!

 

[Eric Cartman]

I’ll give it to Lundstram he’s the most two footed player I’ve ever seen.

It’s a shame about literally everything else in his game

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

He slows the game down far to much, think I read something on here or Facebook saying he’s the best in training according to one of the players......I can see that, he’s technically really good, but there’s not much emphasis on winning games in training.

One thought could he be Basham/ O’Connell’s cover? Might get forward a little bit more than Bryan and Cranie do.

 

[Rudders]

To return to the OP I get frustrated when I see Lunstram deliberately seek out the backwards pass. On one occasion yesterday he got the ball in a perfect position to pass it forward unopposed to a utd forward but turned through about 300 degrees and played a 35 yard pass backwards into defence instead. It's annoying because he has got the physicality and skill to successfully make powerful forward runs into the heart of the opposition and finish it off with a decent shot. He should be doing this 5 to 10 times a match. He could dominate but he chooses not to. If I were the coaches I would fine him if he passed backwards more than say 5 times a game.

 

[Living In a Fantasy World]

He has become a terrible signing, but honestly I don't think he is a bad player. I don't know he's a strange player.

 

[Bill Johnson]

I’ll give it to Lundstram he’s the most two footed player I’ve ever seen.

It’s a shame about literally everything else in his game

Sadly they're attached to the wrong legs.
Awful negative player who we should bin off asap.

 

[BorbokisKS]

Neither Coutts nor Lundstram are good enough. Neither should be anywhere near our match day squad if we are serious about promotion. Unfortunately we haven't got a West Brom or Villa type squad but we need better than Coutts ,who if we are brutally honest has had one good season in league 1 in a very good team. He was bang average at both Preston and Derby for years and thats not likely to change aged 30. Yes he's coming back from a bad injury but we cant be sentimental. I'm very grateful for what he did in the promotion season in the same way I am to Lafferty but Coutts isn't the answer and neither is Lundstram lets just pray we don't get anymore injuries.

You're forgetting the first half of last season too, the one where we lost him due to injury and fell apart shortly after. Not sure if you watched the games but he was our best player then too, just so happens that Norwood is slightly better in that role now. Coutts is a class footballer I don't know what you've been watching at UTD.

 

[BladeTillIDie]

The XI who embarrassed themselves today for what is probably the worst home result in the club's history were given no help whatsoever by the manager. Wilder has defo dropped them all in it today with the starting XI he picked. Not one of them has been first team regulars in the last few weeks (and nearly all of them not regulars all season), yes they still should beat a Conference team, but why the f*** didn't Wilder mix it up half-and-half with the starting XI (and on the bench) put half a dozen regulars in to start and five fringe players, if it still was going belly up he could have brought on another three first teamers, or if it turned into a cake walk he could have brought on fringe players.

Yes the players who represented the club were shameful but Wilder has to be equally culpable with the starting XI he put out.

Maybe because the 11 rested have played 4 games over xmas playing at a high intensity gaining 10 points outta 12 and deserve a rest ready for a BIG game at the weekend in QPR?
Also all 11 deserved a chance it wouldn't be fair if some never got a game!

 

[Revolution]

Absolute tripe and when he starts running games again for us you no doubtedly be one of those who saw what a good player he (is/was !!) all along. I really do think we are up against it with some people who watch us sometimes.

He might start doing that. But that looks weeks away at best.

He's been a good player during his spell with us. He's also been a nesh one who, by his own admission, didn't give 100 per cent prior to September 2016 (i.e. The first 18 months of his deal) due to fear of further injury.

He certainly has that ability in him but he isn't showing it yet. He didn't on Sunday.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

Maybe because the 11 rested have played 4 games over xmas playing at a high intensity gaining 10 points outta 12 and deserve a rest ready for a BIG game at the weekend in QPR?
Also all 11 deserved a chance it wouldn't be fair if some never got a game!

Give over they played Tuesday afternoon at Wigan, that gives 'um 5 days to the Barnet game and another 6 days to the QPR. Wigan they won at a canter and if Wilder would have played half-a-dozen first teamers against Barnet, they'd have won that at a canter too. There's no way that is a heavy schedule, anyway when a teams winning they want to play every game. Wilder is as culpable as the XI that disgraced the club on Sunday.

 

[SHOREHAMST.com]

Lundstram will be a steady player for someone - it just isn’t us.

Coutts is not only back from a horrific injury he is also having to bide his time. Up until the last two league games his cameos have been out of his usual position. Wilder seems to have realised he just isn’t very versatile in that sense and, as a result, Norwood has been shoved wide. We’ve won both so all is well for the moment. And Coutts has had more of an impact. It’s an interesting one to keep an eye on.

It’s hardly anything to have a period about though. It shows a good squad depth. Don’t look for a problem - Coutts isn’t just suddenly healed and back in he goes and out comes Evans/Leonard/Norwood. It just means we’re doing well. Think about it - Coutts can’t get in the side = we must be doing well. Norwood on the pitch and Coutts on the bench > Coutts on the pitch and Carruthers on the bench etc.

I’ll choose to isolate the Barnet game as a bad day at the office and look at the bigger picture.

 

[bromtom]

Lundstram is the league one version of a Norwood type, floating between leagues, would be very good in League One I imagine if he were to go there now, but isn't good enough to get near a start with us.

He's one of the most technically gifted players in our team I think, can do some excellent things, once took a ball down under pressure coming over the top from behind him when he was facing the goal, flicked it, turned 180deg and passed it back up the pitch to feet, I was amazed but his speed of thought is his issue and always has been. I always defend him and hope it will improve but it hasn't significantly in the time he's been with us.

Still think until we get someone else that's steady and can adequately cover for Fleck and Norwood/Coutts during injuries and suspensions he's worth having as a utility player, for half an hour he's fine, and if you stick him in with 10 first teamers for a game or two he won't put is in a terrible position, he's not challenging for a start though on merit.

Might be worth him going out on loan to league one though if we can get someone, a playoff level team and seeing if a) he can get regular football and b) if it does anything to improve his reading of the game.

 

[PaulHalfway]

Not good enough for a team pushing for promotion unfortunately
Ok if we were just a mid table outfit looking for consolidation
Try’s the long cross field ball so many times when it’s definitely the wrong option

 

[Champagneblade]

I'm not clear what Chris and Alan saw in Lundstram to make him a viable signing.

He's slow and cumbersome. He's not a midfielder that scores many.

He can pass a bit.

I don't see how we get anywhere near our money back on him.

He might be ok for a team in the bottom 6 of the Championship. Certainly not for us.

I think Coutts also needs a loan. Get him some regular starts and get him fit. Write off this season.

We're 3rd, not 12th. It's not a position to be nursing players back. We need players to push the current XI and maintain the quality. We need the likes of Fleck looking over his shoulder.

I also pray that Stevens remains fit. Johnson looks bereft of confidence whenever I see him and Keane Bryan's performance the other day doesn't inspire confidence either.

 

[bromtom]

I'm not clear what Chris and Alan saw in Lundstram to make him a viable signing.

He's slow and cumbersome. He's not a midfielder that scores many.

He can pass a bit.

I don't see how we get anywhere near our money back on him.

He might be ok for a team in the bottom 6 of the Championship. Certainly not for us.

I think Coutts also needs a loan. Get him some regular starts and get him fit. Write off this season.

We're 3rd, not 12th. It's not a position to be nursing players back. We need players to push the current XI and maintain the quality. We need the likes of Fleck looking over his shoulder.

I also pray that Stevens remains fit. Johnson looks bereft of confidence whenever I see him and Keane Bryan's performance the other day doesn't inspire confidence either.

We'll need Coutts soon because I think Norwood will take a 2 match ban for 10 yellows in the next 5 or 6 games at the rate he's been picking up bookings.

Maybe we can stick Bash in midfield with him to give him a hand defensively and sacrifice a striker.