CONFIRMED Gary Madine signs on loan

[AWetFlannel]

It was a question ( the question mark is the clue) which you haven't answered

No, you started with 'so you're saying'. You are telling me that I think the nonsense that followed which I obviously don't.

 

[bartman]

Trust Wilder on what?

I trust you when you say disconnect will be created, but find it funny how sure you are that Madine will not create a disconnect seeing as a thread with his name has already created a disconnect.

Do you trust Wilder on whether the player will benefit the team and not cause a disconnect with the squad ?

 

[LondonBlade89]

No, I’m telling you how it is. Bladey Blades as usual are telling it as they would like it to be.

I repeat. Existing players are not consulted on recruitment. Just sit down, deflate the hot air and reflect on just how absurd a situation that would be. What if the players don’t agree? What if they agree with each other but not with the manager.

Too many of you have Sunday League mentality about professional football. Not surprising, given it’s your preferrred standard of football.

Dear, oh Bladey dear. Get me away from the lunatics.

You're being too black and white, though. It's not a case of either "ask Billy Sharp (and other senior players) if they're happy to sign X player and if they're unhappy with it then scrap the deal" or "don't consult any player regarding a transfer, ever".

I think what happened is probably somewhere in the middle. I think you probably know that too but you're just keen to make the point that Billy Sharp didn't have the final say on the deal (which, of course, he didn't). Wilder would've known there was a chance it could happen having sounded out the right people. He thought it was the right decision based on what Madine brings to team, both on and off the pitch. Then he chats to a senior leadership group, explaining his rationale, and asking if they have any objections. If so, they'd talk through them. Knowing this group, I think Wilder would have a good idea the way the conversation would go beforehand.

 

[wizadry]

I am. Players may well know who’s going out. Who is coming in is none of their business. We have a management team; not a dressing room referendum!

It’s almost like you’re just trying to wind people up as the evidence to the contrary is all out there to see.

 

[AWetFlannel]

Do you trust Wilder on whether the player will benefit the team and not cause a disconnect with the squad ?

Yes I do, tentatively.

I don't trust the same positive effect will be achieved amongst the fans, which is what the majority object to.

 

[rosy red]

If he scored a load for us and we won promotion then id even buy him a pint and i hate the cnut.

 

[Pinchy]

Funny how Wells signing for QPR has coincided with their shoot up the table...

But not with goals from him. And the other two world-beaters, who you knew (better than the manager) must be signed? I’m surprised you’re pursuing this. It’s inevitably whats known as a nose-ender for you...

 

[Sheffsteel]

Some of our fans really are as thick as two short planks.

He's a professional footballer, not Jack the Ripper.

It’s called social media hysteria, the witch hunt brigade.
Everyone these days has this desire to feel outraged, it’s the latest fashion.
Also in order to make a point more valid many people have this tendency to exagerrate their viewpoint.

A good manager should take a pragmatic approach, you need to be cool and calculated not emotional.
Wilder is obviously happy with our normal passing game (plan A)
But if teams sit back and prevent us from having space then our plan A struggles to create anything and we have no plan B.
Some have suggested our only plan B might to deliberately let the opposition have tbe ball and let them attack us (like Reading away).
Wilder must be aware that non of our attackers offer any height or physicality. We never look a threat during our numerous corners.

I reckon Wilder is well aware of Madines weaknesses, play him wrong and he’s league 1 standard at best
However Wilder would say if we play to Madines strengths then he provides us with a totally different attacking option.
I think he’ll be similar to Hanson, generally poor, mainly sub appearances but he’ll be the main reason we win certain games.
And them extra 6 or 7 points that Madine helps us win might make the difference between finishing top 2 and playoffs.

 

[Mesut Özil's Lawnmower]

This is going to be one of the most divisive signings I’ve ever seen, I’m actually morbidly curious to see how it turns out.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Some of our fans really are as thick as two short planks.

He's a professional footballer, not Jack the Ripper.

File me in that group then. Thick as two short planks & dense as fuck.

If a professional footballer, out of the blue, asks a fan who he supports, and then procedes to make a mess of him, when he says “Sheffield United”, to such an extent that he needs his face holding together with titanium plating. I don’t want that player to ever, and I mean ever, put on a blades shirt nor take a penny in wages from the club. I don’t give a f*ck about ‘in CW we trust’ nonsense. I have personal opinions and standards, and Gary ‘f*cking’ Madine falls short. Quite simple.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Some of our fans really are as thick as two short planks.

He's a professional footballer, not Jack the Ripper.

“If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons”

Winston Spencer Churchill

 

[Pinchy]

You're being too black and white, though. It's not a case of either "ask Billy Sharp (and other senior players) if they're happy to sign X player and if they're unhappy with it then scrap the deal" or "don't consult any player regarding a transfer, ever".

I think what happened is probably somewhere in the middle. I think you probably know that too but you're just keen to make the point that Billy Sharp didn't have the final say on the deal (which, of course, he didn't). Wilder would've known there was a chance it could happen having sounded out the right people. He thought it was the right decision based on what Madine brings to team, both on and off the pitch. Then he chats to a senior leadership group, explaining his rationale, and asking if they have any objections. If so, they'd talk through them. Knowing this group, I think Wilder would have a good idea the way the conversation would go beforehand.

That’s complete guesswork isn’t it?

 

[derfblade.3]

Owd Gary eh? He's a football player who played for Wednesday but now doesn't. If he hadn't played for them then most of our supporters wouldn't give a shit what his history was. Can't see what the whingers are whinging about.

 

[Sparky The Blade]

Well this is the thing I'm pointing at. I'm reading more and more Blades flipping their shit cos "Madine spun the jaw of a fellow Blade just cos he was a Blade, Madine hates Blades" - it's far more likely that he's just a bell-end, not an anti-Blades bell-end. Personally, that's where I draw the line. Some of my best mates are bell-ends. Some are anti-Blades bell-ends. I'd support the bell-ends playing for us but not the anti-Blades bell-ends.

That’s fair enough. I draw the line at bell-ends. I’m the opposite to you, I’m more critical of our own bell-ends as they actually represent us.

 

[rosy red]

The only problem that i can see is getting good crosses in to him because lately our crossing from both wings is hit and miss

 

[sheffielder]

The only problem that i can see is getting good crosses in to him because lately our crossing from both wings is hit and miss

I was just about to post this on another thread. Good luck to him getting on a cross from Stevens and Baldock!

 

[Pinchy]

It’s almost like you’re just trying to wind people up as the evidence to the contrary is all out there to see.

What evidence is that? Please don’t cite the Star?

What do you say to the evidence (that is most certainly there) of Tufty and Knill that the ‘early crossing’ fan mania is ‘noise and nonsense’ and Blades fans are talking drivel as usual.

 

[sitwell]

I watch them play football for 90 minutes a week! They ain't my mates, why should I really care what they are like off the pitch as long as they aren't breaking the law*? I dare say if I spent a bit of time with the current squad there would no doubt be some players I wouldn't get on with, but it's their football ability that matter most.

* I understand Madine has broken the law, however that was 5 years ago, so if he behaves whilst being an employee of SUFC, that's fine with me.

This ,I go to watch footballers play football ,leave the gossip to the sad wankers on facebook ,twitter and the shoutbox.
Does everyone think Currie ,Woodward ,Bradshaw ,Kenworthy even Wilder were angelic schoolboys ?
Give me a decent player with a past that will make Utd better ,over an angelic, money grabbing 'model professional' fiddling twat like Dean Hammond and his mentor anyday of the week.

 

[LJBlade]

You don’t ask the turkey for an opinion on the choice of Christmas roast. You have no first hand experience of any value whatsoever. I do.

You’re telling me something doesn’t exist just because you’ve never come across it. You’re also now telling me about my own life.

As I said before, back in your day this might have been the case but the world has moved on. What you think you know is quite possibly no longer relevant.

The thing you’ve also ignored, in an effort to believe your own bullshit, is that Wilder himself has even told us that consulting with the senior members of the squad is something that he does.

 

[Robboblade1889]

I bet the pig fans are pissing themselves laughing at this, Wilder must be on drugs to even consider this shit.

Well from what I have read most are not, most are actually saying with Wilders record for bringing in players who people didn’t rate and getting them playing he is liable to do well. What they are laughing at and quite rightly so is the bed wetters throwing their toys out of the pram regarding the signing.

Whilst I don’t necessarily agree with the signing this manager we have deserves to be afforded the trust to make whatever decisions he thinks is best for this football club. If he wants Madine that’s fine with me I will suppprt whoever puts on the red and white. I hunk people need to calm down a bit and just let this great manager we have do his job.

 

[sheffielder]

That’s complete guesswork isn’t it?

Bit like guessing it doesn't happen, unless you have proof.

 

[Bill puntin]

Did you support Ched.?.....you know..that striker with low morale standards who goes in for sloppy seconds with a drunk girl at a Welsh hotel whilst being engaged ?

No I didn't, bet you did

 

[sitwell]

Other than crossing the ball into the box how would expect Madine to work with our passing game?

that's a big 'other than ' really ,but hassling defenders and hold up play with his strength will also aid us.

 

[Jon Bon II]

Don’t you normally use a booster cushion?

I usually find that my cuban heels suffice,,,,

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Sky camera man and interviewer arrived at Bramall Lane about an hour ago,when i was getting my Barnet ticket.

 

[Pinchy]

Bit like guessing it doesn't happen, unless you have proof.

It does, in the Sunday League, as I have explained. I realise you see no difference between that and professional football, unsophisticated, local chap that you are.

 

[derfblade.3]

Billy's not bothered....so why are you?


But what would Sharp make of Madine's arrival?

This is what the 32-year-old told Alan Biggs after the Cardiff striker's comments, in March 2017: "I don't think he said anything that people don't already know... I think everybody knows I'm fat!

"I had no problem with it. He texted one of the lads who play with me now on the Monday morning - as far as I'm concerned it was done then. But the media did try to make a thing of it and the Bolton fans thought they'd sing to me to try and get to me but, obviously, it worked in my favour (as Sharp scored both goals in a 2-0 win for Sheffield United)."

 

[Robboblade1889]

Here you go even those on the dark side have more trust in wilder than some of our own bed wetters.

 

[Roygbiv]

That's because some of our fans are dense as fuck.

We had all this when we signed Cresswell too.

I'm not arguing this. I think it's ours fans reaction that will make this is a bigger issue than it should be.

 

[sheffielder]

It does, in the Sunday League, as I have explained. I realise you see no difference between that and professional football, unsophisticated, local chap that you are.

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I doubt from your comment that you have played Sunday league or even Junior football. My teams would pick up good players from other teams and there would be a discussion. You don't seem to be a person who would take part in a team game so it makes sense you haven't got a clue about anything like this.