Keith Edwards on RS - Time for change?

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cahill said:
Don't like how Gage says "Sheffield United" and not "we" and the man child Radio Sheffield presenter is irritating with his West Yorkshire accent. As I write Notlob have scored
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That's one of the reasons I really like him. I want objective impartial commentary and not an equivalent of Pearson whose biased contributions make it impossible to understand how the match is actually playing out.

I once read an enlightening article outlining the merits of impartial but informed sports commentary and which heralded the late, great Richie Benaud as the benchmark i.e. you couldn't tell which side he was supporting such was his professionalism, he simply called the game as he saw it. If only some other commentators and pundits would try harder to do likewise whether it be club or country games they're working on.
 
I've always liked Keith Edwards 'alternative' view of games, during the League one years i thought he was often spot on as we were at times negative, lacked any quality and to be honest we didn't have many decent ideas. His negative view was called for

During the Promotion season and last season he clearly enjoyed the football and probably the same applies this season.

However, over recent weeks/ months I've not heard his co-commentary as we've either been on Sky or Kev Gage has given the co-commentary or i've not had the radio commentary on as i've watched the game.

Sky, for all their faults, have had brilliant co-commentary recently, Higginbotham ( i think) has been excellent, as he's given a very intelligent overview, Kev Gage the same, often having stats at hand.

I only listened to the first half as i couldn't watch the game in the office due to a problem with iFollow. Second half though i watched the game and had the comms on.

With Keith, its all about how it was in his day and yesterday was all about getting the ball in early for the strikers. Sure enough, the goal came from an early ball in, but Ipswich seemed to cut that out after that, so for those listening on the radio the assumption would be that we just weren't putting the ball in early and that means we were shit.

The reason for us not putting the ball in, from watching the game was because Ipswich defended resolutely, we continually probed, but couldn't break them down, their formation was set up to hit us on the counter.... There was a lot for the co-commentator to contribute.

Keith seems to come to the game poor equipped, winging it with quips about his day, rather than being prepared, like the commentator, he just greets stats with "well, i'll take your word on that, but in my day..."

As i say, i like Keith, i do think that his extreme negativity is frustrating to listen to and the commentary is certainly better with Kev. But i wouldn't want Keith to go completely, just in times where we're getting more intelligent co-comms, i think Keith needs to up his game
 
I'll say it then. I like Keith Edwards commentaries on the radio. I think he talks a lot of sense, a lot of the time. That's pretty good actually. It's maybe not possible for anyone to talk complete sense all of the time. So, I'm happy with that.

I think he makes some very good observations on our play. He's been saying for weeks now about how we need to be more clinical in front of goal - and there's no one who can speak with better authority on that than him - because he was deadly at it. One of the best finishers every to play for a Sheffield United team.

I think he's very fair and balanced in his comments too. I thought his summing up of yesterday's game at Ipswich was spot on. He credited the team for a very good performance but said that Wilder will be pleased with the performance, but not the result. He pointed out that this is the Championship - and whilst we'd hope to beat teams at the bottom of the table it really isn't that simple - the games are all very tough.

Occasionally he will hark back to his day - and that can get a bit tiring. And occasionally he'll go off at a tangent and talk about something else, like the pie he's just had, or the journey to the game. And that's a bit distracting when you just want to know who's kicking the bloody ball and what's happening on the pitch. But, he tells it as he sees it. He doesn't wrap it up in cotton wool for us or play political games with us. And I think he gets it spot on most of the time.

As for other suggestions - I think Gagey is "o.k." but doesn't have the ability of Edwards to analyse and pin point what needs to happen on the pitch - and he can't even pronounce some of the players names, so sorry, that's a very poor suggestion. And Holdsworth was even worse!

Shall we just stick with Keith Edwards and find summat else to moan about instead? It's horrible weather this morning y'know - shall we start a thread on that?
 
Well I like his contribution to the commentaries. Hes no worse than anyone else.
 



Prefer gagey if I'm honest ,Keith isn't very good but I don't think he's overly negative I just don't think he's very intelligent (football wise )
 
originaltrueblade said:
Everytime Keith Edwards states we are dominating the game and there’s only one winner, we concede FFS
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Keef gets on my tits

He always right. Why? Because he covers every angle.

He tells us how brilliant we are playing. He can't see us losing and should win by 2 or 3 goals then drops a little caveat in as insurance and then when we concede he says how he did say it and warn us all. Well he said everything, covered all the scenarios so he can't be wrong.

And as you say, OTB, he tempts fate ( yes I know, how superstition is all bollox), but just commentate on the fkin game. Stop trying to be a clever arse
 
A workmate who is in his early 30s (and a Blade) has said that he doesnt like listening to Edwards as he gets fed up of his "in my day" comments. It is the same for my son too as he doesnt listen to his commentaries. Looks like Edwards doesnt really appeal to the younger generation. Both agree that Pearson is worse.
 
Rarely listen to RS commentaries when I'm not at an away game.

That said when I have over the years I've always felt Edwards has made many valid observations imho about our forwards.

One in particular I agree with is how little our strikers get across the front post.
 
Cerberus Blade said:
I'll say it then. I like Keith Edwards commentaries on the radio. I think he talks a lot of sense, a lot of the time. That's pretty good actually. It's maybe not possible for anyone to talk complete sense all of the time. So, I'm happy with that.

I think he makes some very good observations on our play. He's been saying for weeks now about how we need to be more clinical in front of goal - and there's no one who can speak with better authority on that than him - because he was deadly at it. One of the best finishers every to play for a Sheffield United team.

I think he's very fair and balanced in his comments too. I thought his summing up of yesterday's game at Ipswich was spot on. He credited the team for a very good performance but said that Wilder will be pleased with the performance, but not the result. He pointed out that this is the Championship - and whilst we'd hope to beat teams at the bottom of the table it really isn't that simple - the games are all very tough.

Occasionally he will hark back to his day - and that can get a bit tiring. And occasionally he'll go off at a tangent and talk about something else, like the pie he's just had, or the journey to the game. And that's a bit distracting when you just want to know who's kicking the bloody ball and what's happening on the pitch. But, he tells it as he sees it. He doesn't wrap it up in cotton wool for us or play political games with us. And I think he gets it spot on most of the time.

As for other suggestions - I think Gagey is "o.k." but doesn't have the ability of Edwards to analyse and pin point what needs to happen on the pitch - and he can't even pronounce some of the players names, so sorry, that's a very poor suggestion. And Holdsworth was even worse!

Shall we just stick with Keith Edwards and find summat else to moan about instead? It's horrible weather this morning y'know - shall we start a thread on that?
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Unusually I completely agree with Cerberus Blade ;)
 
Silent Blade said:
A workmate who is in his early 30s (and a Blade) has said that he doesnt like listening to Edwards as he gets fed up of his "in my day" comments. It is the same for my son too as he doesnt listen to his commentaries. Looks like Edwards doesnt really appeal to the younger generation. Both agree that Pearson is worse.
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Pearson shouldn’t be the bar that we’re holding Edwards up against as it’s in effect giving him a free pass for as long as Pearson tries to construct sentences amidst his mutterings. I used to get constantly annoyed by Edwards’s obsession with criticising Ndlovu and have barely listened to him in the last ten years. And then there was the embarrassing farce of his campaign to be the new manager (and the equally embarrassing small minority of fans that supported him)... If Radio Sheffield wants to attract new people to listening the commentary, get someone on that’s genuinely interesting to listen to offering expert analysis in games and steer the station away from the jobs-for-life mentality.
 
Yesterday was a particular puzzle because KE said throughout that we were playing well and were on top. The Shoutbox experts however told me that we were rubbish and will be lucky to escape relegation. I didn’t know what to believe.

Apart from Keith’s constant reference to his day, one expression which he uses as a habit and out of context, and which winds me up is “in many respects”, when he really means in one respect. For example “that was a great tackle in many respects”, if the player wins the ball, that’s really the only respect that counts.
 
He says the same things every single game.

And I thought it was common knowledge that nobody wants to listen to "in my day" comments. Obviously not. He's one of those who just can't help himself.
 
Keith says the same each game cos we keep doing the same up front. I'm a big supporter of his.
Yesterday we were clueless in the final third yet again and again and desperately need a younger version of Keith at the club to coach and train the team in effective forward play.

Keith understands the value of getting forward quickly, making runs , attacking the near post and not faffing around so much as we insist on doing month after month but don't learn from it. All that possession comes to nowt without knowing what to do up front and it must be very frustrating for him.

By the way, the Rodin and Constable museum displays in Ipswich were far more intelligent and pleasurable than anything seen on the pitch yesterday and I'm not a huge fan of art.
 
No one on here has had as good an opportunity to get into professional coaching as Keith has. Maybe he should have taken it. It’s not difficult to criticise, we can all do that.
 
Gage does the home games for Radio Sheffield I believe? And Keith the away ones, and if you sign up to the SUFC match play backs then you can listen to Gagey for the full 90 minutes. I still like Keith Edwards for the away games, he has a decent view and is a good pundit. Many of our games have been similar of late so I can imagine it will sound similar from Keith.
 
SwissBlade said:
The reason for us not putting the ball in, from watching the game was because Ipswich defended resolutely, we continually probed, but couldn't break them down, their formation was set up to hit us on the counter
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Can't quite agree with the criticism, but I can see the points you make about Edwards are shared by others.

I've picked out the above from your post as for me, this problem has existed in L1 days, and since we came into this league.

Some fans call it "we've been sussed" - but what ever it is called, we don't seem to have a management/coaching plan to solve the problem.

For two and a half seasons we have generally dominated games against the opposition (we are apparently the 1st team this season to out possess Leeds) yet we fail to capitalise.

A number of said we over play in and around the opposition box - that's fine if it eventually works, but we haven't solved this issue at all.

Keith alludes to getting it in early - and for me it's about mixing it up. He is though absolutely 100% correct about forwards not knowing when or where to go as we fanny about a lot of the time.

This problem is down to the management to solve - one that, at the moment, they don't seem capable of.

We should have won ANOTHER game yesterday, not lost 2 points - it's frustration beyond frustration now for me.

UTB
 
Cerberus Blade said:
I'll say it then. I like Keith Edwards commentaries on the radio. I think he talks a lot of sense, a lot of the time. That's pretty good actually. It's maybe not possible for anyone to talk complete sense all of the time. So, I'm happy with that.

I think he makes some very good observations on our play. He's been saying for weeks now about how we need to be more clinical in front of goal - and there's no one who can speak with better authority on that than him - because he was deadly at it. One of the best finishers every to play for a Sheffield United team.

I think he's very fair and balanced in his comments too. I thought his summing up of yesterday's game at Ipswich was spot on. He credited the team for a very good performance but said that Wilder will be pleased with the performance, but not the result. He pointed out that this is the Championship - and whilst we'd hope to beat teams at the bottom of the table it really isn't that simple - the games are all very tough.

Occasionally he will hark back to his day - and that can get a bit tiring. And occasionally he'll go off at a tangent and talk about something else, like the pie he's just had, or the journey to the game. And that's a bit distracting when you just want to know who's kicking the bloody ball and what's happening on the pitch. But, he tells it as he sees it. He doesn't wrap it up in cotton wool for us or play political games with us. And I think he gets it spot on most of the time.

As for other suggestions - I think Gagey is "o.k." but doesn't have the ability of Edwards to analyse and pin point what needs to happen on the pitch - and he can't even pronounce some of the players names, so sorry, that's a very poor suggestion. And Holdsworth was even worse!

Shall we just stick with Keith Edwards and find summat else to moan about instead? It's horrible weather this morning y'know - shall we start a thread on that?
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"We need to be more clinical in front of goal"
Thank God someone realised there is a bit of a problem :rolleyes:
 



Cerberus Blade said:
I'll say it then. I like Keith Edwards commentaries on the radio. I think he talks a lot of sense, a lot of the time. That's pretty good actually. It's maybe not possible for anyone to talk complete sense all of the time. So, I'm happy with that.

I think he makes some very good observations on our play. He's been saying for weeks now about how we need to be more clinical in front of goal - and there's no one who can speak with better authority on that than him - because he was deadly at it. One of the best finishers every to play for a Sheffield United team.

I think he's very fair and balanced in his comments too. I thought his summing up of yesterday's game at Ipswich was spot on. He credited the team for a very good performance but said that Wilder will be pleased with the performance, but not the result. He pointed out that this is the Championship - and whilst we'd hope to beat teams at the bottom of the table it really isn't that simple - the games are all very tough.

Occasionally he will hark back to his day - and that can get a bit tiring. And occasionally he'll go off at a tangent and talk about something else, like the pie he's just had, or the journey to the game. And that's a bit distracting when you just want to know who's kicking the bloody ball and what's happening on the pitch. But, he tells it as he sees it. He doesn't wrap it up in cotton wool for us or play political games with us. And I think he gets it spot on most of the time.

As for other suggestions - I think Gagey is "o.k." but doesn't have the ability of Edwards to analyse and pin point what needs to happen on the pitch - and he can't even pronounce some of the players names, so sorry, that's a very poor suggestion. And Holdsworth was even worse!

Shall we just stick with Keith Edwards and find summat else to moan about instead? It's horrible weather this morning y'know - shall we start a thread on that?
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To carry on from Cerebus (good post btw)

Right I will try and be as neutral as poss on this.
Over the many years since football commentary started on local radio..it was Hallam FM that first did live commentary on the Sheffield clubs only on the team playing away though, then the beeb got the rights for local Radio stations to do it.
There have been many good commentators on RS Simon Clarke,Seth Benett, Paul Walker, Andy Giddings there was a guy form Canada (he was very good) but went back to Canada who did it with Paul 1st 20 mins of each half would be him then he would pass the mic to Paul.
We had up until about 2 years ago 3 live commentaris across all frequencies...one on FM, one on AM and one on DAB, the main FM one would be the away sheffield club, AM might have been on of he other south yorkshire clubs and DAB would have been the other sheffield club at home.
As for the co commentators for Utd Keith has always told it as is, yes he can drone on a bit but Keith is just telling it from the heart, you might not hear but I can the passion and fervour he has for united and when things don't go well you can tell that it hurts him not by what he is saying but by the inflections and tone of voice.

As co commentators on RS they all have there own qualities and indivualities, I can remember Dougie Hodgson doing with Paul Walker during an away match on a tuesday, the blades scored and a home fan started giving Paul and Dougie some grief, said supporter then got up and walked towards them, As Paul was taking in mid sentance when when Dougie just ripped his headphones on stood up and started heading towards said supporter who very quickly realised he had better sit down before dougie got to him.
I like Gagey as well, different perspective and also a v good co commentator, I have heard B Gayle do it, good, The beezer he's done it, was also good.

Everyone has their own opinions and that is what it is all about and I can certainly agree about some of the other beeb local radio stations commentary is gash, they are not a patch on Radio Sheffield when it come to covering footy games or local sport.

It could be soon in the next few years that we will lose local footy commentary and have to rely on ifollow (god help us).

Luke Wildman canada guy....just remembered
 
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