BDTBL freehold.

[beightonblade]

Will McCabe write off the debt the Blades owe him for the freehold ?
then lease the ground back ??????

 

[Trevor Hockey]

New angle on an old wind up BB - you really must try harder!!!

 

[beightonblade]

New angle on an old wind up BB - you really must try harder!!!

ah but its not a wind up...... just a serious question.

 

[Houso]

BBB

:gallop:

 

[alcoblade]

Will McCabe write off the debt the Blades owe him for the freehold ?
then lease the ground back ??????

why don't you make your point in a way everyone can understand, rather than implying something underhand is going on, and giving the impression that you actually know fuck all about the subject?

UTB

 

[Trevor Hockey]

'cos he does know f all

 

[beightonblade]

sorry i was just asking a simple question.... forget it !

 

[alcoblade]

sorry i was just asking a simple question.... forget it !

yep, hit and run tactics. You heard a bloke in the pub spouting, hope you're onto a angle to attack McCabe, but genuinely know sweet fa about the implication you're making.

UTB

 

[Linz]

Beighton may actually know more than some of you give him credit for... and this ownership of the ground issue is one he has had questions about for quite some time.

Can we move away from simply attacking someone instead of discussing the points they're making please?

 

[alcoblade]

Beighton may actually know more than some of you give him credit for... and this ownership of the ground issue is one he has had questions about for quite some time.

Can we move away from simply attacking someone instead of discussing the points they're making please?

I'd like to discuss his point but don't understand it. Why am I attacking him? I think he knows fuck all about this, that's all. He's done the same all over bladesmad in the past whithout actually making a clear point. It's tiresome and I think a request to clarify it is fair enough, given that he keeps repeating himself.

We had the same thing when Mccabe took the company off the open market. An offer of 8.5 p was made for shares that could openly be bought for about half that. Somehow Beighton managed to conclude he was having his pants removed (clearly having foolishly paid well over the odds earlier) and insinuated all sorts of crap about Mccabe, but without a single fact.

UTB

 

[Linz]

why am I attacking him? I think he knows fuck all about this, that's all. He's done the same all over bladesmad in the past whithout actually making a clear point. It's tiresome and I think a request to clarify it is fair enough, given that he keeps repeating himself.

UTB

All I'm saying is that there are ways and means of coming across and that appearing agitated and confrontational is perhaps not quite so conducive to getting the response you require than posing a civil question?

Just a thought...

 

[Trevor Hockey]

Thats fine Linz - but with Beighton its rare you actually get a point to discuss only a little inuendo of a maggot suggesting underhand dealings within the club. He also doesn't provide sources which you ask for when rumours are posted.

 

[Grecian2000]

Will McCabe write off the debt the Blades owe him for the freehold ?
then lease the ground back ??????

OK, I'm interested enough to give it a go.

1. Are you saying McCabe holds the freehold to the ground rather than SUFC?
2. What reason have you for believing this?
3. Are you suggesting he is going to do something with the ground that won't be in the best interest of Sheffield United?
4. If 3=Yes, what is it and why do you believe this?
5. Are you mistaking him for Ken Booth?

 

[derrywan]

BB if you want to know who owns the freehold you can find out for £4 on the land registry site.

 

[SheepdipBlade]

Never knowingly met Beighton - and rarely agreed with his views either - - but his posts over the months do show he knows something about property and the legal stuff that surrounds it. I'd guess he's a building contractor or something??

So BB -

Would it be a positive step if McC wrote off the clubs debt in return for the freehold? - Wouldn't that release monies for transfers and salaries??

Or do you see dangers in him owning the freehold? I assume that McC (or Scarborough Properties or whatever his business is called) is the majority shareholder of the PLC, so don't they already own the freehold in all but name already?

Sorry to be asking basic questions - but all of this is out of my line of work.

 

[HoodedClaw]

Here BB, why dont you show some ambition and find the information that you're looking for yourself:

http://www.landsearch.net/landregistry

Looking forward to you posting the answers to the questions you've posed as Im intrigued as to where you're going with this.

 

[beightonblade]

BB if you want to know who owns the freehold you can find out for £4 on the land registry site.

The Land Registry records are way behind time and don't tell the fullstory.

 

[beightonblade]

Sheepdipblade ....... yer close!

The freehold of BDTBL is a very valuable asset, it should be protected.
A suggestion would be to place it in a 'Life rent trust' with the benificeries being The Blades.

 

[derrywan]

The Land Registry records are way behind time and don't tell the fullstory.

we'll never know for sure what's happening then if we can't believe what we read there. which leaves us back just with innuendo and rumour.

I'm not naive enough to doubt that someone of McCabe's aptitude would not have an exit strategy in mind for either club or property or other companies, but I'm not going to read bad intent into his plans or actions unless we can see some other corroborating facts. Conducting business activity of any kind on 3rd party owned land or premises always requires a degree of caution and risk awareness, but you're suggesting here (or at least inviting us all to reach the conclusion) that we should be suspicious of McCabe, and I can't see what grounds there are for that.

 

[judge]

beighton serious question

why dont you just tell us instead of arseing around ?

 

[alcoblade]

As far as I was aware McCabe bought United lock stock and barrell. I'd be suprised if he didn't hold the freehold to BDTBL so I'm lost as to what's being implied. But implication is as far as we'll get in any case.

UTB

 

[Bramley]

Land Registry should be ok, I'm sure a reasonable Convenyancy firm will be able to assuage any concerns Beighton. You can't credibly keep posting innuendo like this without substantiating it.

 

[beightonblade]

Land Registry should be ok, I'm sure a reasonable Convenyancy firm will be able to assuage any concerns Beighton. You can't credibly keep posting innuendo like this without substantiating it.

Nope as i've already said Land Registry are way behind with record keeping and it don't tell the full story anyway.

 

[SheepdipBlade]

You're gonna have to spell this out to me BB cos I don't see what you're driving at here.

Are you saying that if McC gets the freehold he could sell BDTBL for a packet and move the club to a new ground?

 

[Bramley]

No disrespect but S2 isn't prime real estate. Surely you could have asked this question at the meet the chairman thing?

 

[beightonblade]

No disrespect but S2 isn't prime real estate. Surely you could have asked this question at the meet the chairman thing?

perhaps yer reight

 

[The Dark Canuck]

Originally Posted by: beightonblade

Nope as i've already said Land Registry are way behind with record keeping and it don't tell the full story anyway.

If I were as interested in this information as you are, I'd be in libraries, city halls, leafing through financial records of the club, anything which would bring me closer to the truth I sought. I am like most people in the belief that I thought McCabe bought the club lock, stock, the lot, although I'd be interested if you could sift through and find out.

Also did I read correctly that your suggesting that if McCabe doesn't have the freehold to the ground, it should be traded to him by the club in return for him writing off debts, and upon his passing should be returned back to the club?

Apologies if it seems like I'm coming after you, but you asked for a debate in the other thread and when I offered you one, you said, seems like you don't agree...fair doos; I always thought the idea of a debate was that of two opposing sides, offering opposite arguments? I just find it bizarre that you seem to have this philosophy that McCabe is up to something nefarious, and everyones drank the kool-aid but you, and a few others.

 

[Bramley]

It'd be interesting to find out. But given the big capital investment being spent on extension of the Kop and potentially the South Stand, I can't see it being a long term strategy to sell the freehold of the ground and build a stadium elsewhere. It doesn't make financial sense.

I think the Hotel is the genuine problem, must be losing so much money on that.

 

[shorehamview]

BB, if you know or at least have an idea of what will be occurring then in the words of the bloke trying to shag the really fat bird, "fart and give us a clue". If you have a theory then please share it with us, rather than give us less of an idea than the Times cryptic crossword.









7 Across - Island in Sheffield.(4,6,10)



Park Square Roundabout.

 

[The Dark Canuck]

Originally Posted by: shorehamview

7 Across - Island in Sheffield.(4,6,10)

It's a good thing then living in Canada that I don't have to do a cross word like that!