New approach needed.

[Bladeinleeds]

Now I’m sure there will be plenty of threads about our inability to sign our key striking targets

But we really do need to consider our approach to signings. Like it or not the game has moved on - players arnt going to take below market wages to play for us. Why are we even possibly about with these targets if we arnt going to do what’s needed to get them, that should have been obvious for months.

We’ve spent 9months trying to get a ‘top’ championship targets over the line and have come up with 2 freebies. We’ve sold brooks and have a conservative 5million and 20k + per week plus left in the budget that we have failed to spend not be mention we’ve just sold Leonard


Wilder really needs to think about how we use this as it’s going to be exactly the same in January. We need to search more than just the 4 English leagues to get a player to avoid this happening again and again.

mcgokdrick and Washington may well do fine for us but I’ve a hard time believing that they are going to take us to the next level. Don’t we need to aim for more than mid table again?

For the record I am fairly pleased with Washington low risk and adds pace so I’m not super depressed just would have been nice to be the club makes a splash for once.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Now I’m sure there will be plenty of threads about our inability to sign out key striking targets

But we really do need to consider our approach to signings. Like it or not the game has moved on - players arnt going to take below market wages to play for us.

We’ve spent 9months trying to get a ‘top’ championship targets over the line and have come up with 2 freebies. We’ve sold brooks and have a conservative 5million and 20k per week plus left in the budget that we have failed to spend not be mention we’ve just sold Leonard


Wilder really needs to think about how we use this as it’s going to be exactly the same in January. We need to search more than just the 4 English leagues to get a player

mcgokdrick and Washington May well do fine for us but I’ve a hard time believing that they are going to take us to the next level. Don’t need to aim for more than mid table again?

For the record I am fairly pleased with Washington low risk and adds pace so I’m not super depressed just would have been nice to be the club makes a splash for once.

This isn't Championship Manager...

I trust Tufty implicitly and would rather we're 'inactive' and pick freebies than spunk moneh.

 

[8lade]

Not so happy Leonard is out though can't see it reported by mainstream media yet

 

[Bladeinleeds]

This isn't Championship Manager...

I trust Tufty implicitly and would rather we're 'inactive' and pick freebies than spunk moneh.

To an extent but we want to be able to compete surely?? The level of competition is only going to get harder and really are freebies going to help us take that next step.

I trust wilder but If we were more inventive the resources we do have could have been put to some use. We are already fighting with one hand behind our back we’re only making it worse by leaving the money unspent and it genuinely could have made the difference between mid table and the play offs

 

[SwissBlade]

Now I’m sure there will be plenty of threads about our inability to sign our key striking targets

But we really do need to consider our approach to signings. Like it or not the game has moved on - players arnt going to take below market wages to play for us. Why are we even possibly about with these targets if we arnt going to do what’s needed to get them, that should have been obvious for months.

We’ve spent 9months trying to get a ‘top’ championship targets over the line and have come up with 2 freebies. We’ve sold brooks and have a conservative 5million and 20k + per week plus left in the budget that we have failed to spend not be mention we’ve just sold Leonard


Wilder really needs to think about how we use this as it’s going to be exactly the same in January. We need to search more than just the 4 English leagues to get a player to avoid this happening again and again.

mcgokdrick and Washington may well do fine for us but I’ve a hard time believing that they are going to take us to the next level. Don’t we need to aim for more than mid table again?

For the record I am fairly pleased with Washington low risk and adds pace so I’m not super depressed just would have been nice to be the club makes a splash for once.

It’s like saying we should start buying Ferrari’s as fords wont get the job done.

We can’t afford to buy a Ferrari however we might be able to borrow a 10 year old Porsche from our mates

 

[Sean Thornton]

This isn't Championship Manager...

I trust Tufty implicitly and would rather we're 'inactive' and pick freebies than spunk moneh.

These ideas are easily suggested without the burden of a budget on your back and the need to keep the squad as happy as possible.

 

[Stretch]

Now I’m sure there will be plenty of threads about our inability to sign our key striking targets

But we really do need to consider our approach to signings. Like it or not the game has moved on - players arnt going to take below market wages to play for us. Why are we even possibly about with these targets if we arnt going to do what’s needed to get them, that should have been obvious for months.

We’ve spent 9months trying to get a ‘top’ championship targets over the line and have come up with 2 freebies. We’ve sold brooks and have a conservative 5million and 20k + per week plus left in the budget that we have failed to spend not be mention we’ve just sold Leonard


Wilder really needs to think about how we use this as it’s going to be exactly the same in January. We need to search more than just the 4 English leagues to get a player to avoid this happening again and again.

mcgokdrick and Washington may well do fine for us but I’ve a hard time believing that they are going to take us to the next level. Don’t we need to aim for more than mid table again?

For the record I am fairly pleased with Washington low risk and adds pace so I’m not super depressed just would have been nice to be the club makes a splash for once.

I am not completely jumping on what you have said mate, but I notice you have completely failed to mention Egan and Norwood, 2 players who we would have creamed at the prospect of getting pre season, and certainly in the latter's case we have a player who walks into any team in the league. Woodburn was also regarded as a real coup by every commentator and pundit in the game.
I am also fairly convinced that McGoldrick and Washington are better than Donaldson and Lavery/Evans respectively.

Look I am pissed of about Leonard going and would have preferred us to get a Tammy Abraham type signing in, but most clubs haven't got every player they wanted, but it's not all bad.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Agree with Roger Moore,

Wilder has old school principles. He’s not going to get conned by agents or other clubs.

He’s sending out a clear message that you can’t mess with Sheffield United.
We don’t want mercenary players only interested in the biggest salary
We want hungry players that want to play for Sheff United and long may it continue.

The Connor Washington signing seems underwhelming because his promising career has stalled.
However he’s still quite young and now gets another chance to fulfil his potential.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

I am not completely jumping on what you have said mate, but I notice you have completely failed to mention Egan and Norwood, 2 players who we would have creamed at the prospect of getting pre season, and certainly in the latter's case we have a player who walks into any team in the league. Woodburn was also regarded as a real coup by every commentator and pundit on the game.

Look I am pissed of about Leonard going and would have preferred us to get a Tammy Abraham type signing in, but most clubs haven't got every player they wanted.

It's not all bad.

No, I agree. Overall it’s been a decent window.

I guess my frustration is we’re left money in the budget.... At least the 5m or so we bid for waghon plus enough to offer substantial wages to him / hogan.

With that available there must have been someone in the world that would have fitted the bill for what we needed

We go in to it knowing we’ve not given ourselves every chance of maximising this season - when were already with one hand behind our backs compared to the heavyweights of the division. We’re going to have to have the bollox to use it sometime if we’re serious about progression.

 

[bromtom]

Would rather have a 26 year old free with promise and something to prove than an injury prone Billy big bollocks on £35K any day of the week.

 

[Blade56]

come up with 2 freebies

Has Cranie been confirmed or did we miss out to no one?

 

[Superblades]

I’m sure we are paying decent wages for the likes of Norwood & Egan. I still think we have had a good window and the squad looks stronger than the one that finished last season. Washington is only 26 and with the midfield we have, we will create chances for him.

 

[Harry's Game]

There will be no major change in policy until the ownership is sorted and we find out whether or not whoever wins has serious investors lined up.

That will not be at least until next summer transfer window when the court case is has been heard and then if whoever loses appeals it may not be until the January Transfer window of 2020 or even summer 2020.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Has Cranie been confirmed or did we miss out to no one?

I meant mcgoldrick and Washington tbf.

Don’t see cranie as anything other than a body really now Leonard’s gone.

 

[bromtom]

I’m sure we are paying decent wages for the likes of Norwood & Egan. I still think we have had a good window and the squad looks stronger than the one that finished last season. Washington is only 26 and with the midfield we have, we will create chances for him.

I could get 5 goals a season I reckon with the chances we create and I'm a fat bastard with a bad back and an arthritic knee.

 

[Grappler]

I could get 5 goals a season I reckon with the chances we create and I'm a fat bastard with a bad back and an arthritic knee.

Didn't know about your knee mate?.......

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Would rather have a 26 year old free with promise and something to prove than an injury prone Billy big bollocks on £35K any day of the week.

Agree I think Washington is decent but really given the money we have to spend it’s not a freebie or billy big bollox.

What remains in our budget should have been enough for a big improvement up front imo.

 

[Grappler]

Mark "journeyman" Duffy
Paul "broken down crock" Coutts
Leon "can't do it at this level" Clarke

If CW and AK see something in this lad then something is there, let them work on him and it might be like they are polishing a diamond

 

[Sean Thornton]

Agree I think Washington is decent but really given the money we have to spend it’s not a freebie or billy big bollox.

What remains in our budget should have been enough for a big improvement up front imo.

Exactly what remains in our budget? There's more to running football club than paying players wages.

 

[neverknowinglywrong]

I could get 5 goals a season I reckon with the chances we create and I'm a fat bastard with a bad back and an arthritic knee.

How much you looking for? Up front and per week.

 

[Sean Thornton]

How much you looking for? Up front and per week.

He's dogshit. And I'm his agent.

 

[Chali 2na]

Now I’m sure there will be plenty of threads about our inability to sign our key striking targets

But we really do need to consider our approach to signings. Like it or not the game has moved on - players arnt going to take below market wages to play for us. Why are we even possibly about with these targets if we arnt going to do what’s needed to get them, that should have been obvious for months.

We’ve spent 9months trying to get a ‘top’ championship targets over the line and have come up with 2 freebies. We’ve sold brooks and have a conservative 5million and 20k + per week plus left in the budget that we have failed to spend not be mention we’ve just sold Leonard


Wilder really needs to think about how we use this as it’s going to be exactly the same in January. We need to search more than just the 4 English leagues to get a player to avoid this happening again and again.

mcgokdrick and Washington may well do fine for us but I’ve a hard time believing that they are going to take us to the next level. Don’t we need to aim for more than mid table again?

For the record I am fairly pleased with Washington low risk and adds pace so I’m not super depressed just would have been nice to be the club makes a splash for once.

We can "consider" our approach to signings until the cows come home. The important question is can we change it?

Assuming any change requires an increase in budget (Higher fees, wages, international scouting etc.) then it's out of the control of the fans, more importantly, it's out of the control of Wilder.

Maybe at some point we'll see a change in strategy, but not before we see the ownership situation resolved - neither party is going to want to pump money in if there's a chance they're about to be forced out.

 

[bromtom]

He's dogshit. And I'm his agent.

That's why I picked you to represent me, always bigging me up.

 

[robbiez666]

Here's a curveball. Spend the 5 million we've been told we were prepared to pay for Waghorn on established a European scouting network.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Here's a curveball. Spend the 5 million we've been told we were prepared to pay for Waghorn on established a European scouting network.

Which can find us players we can't afford to buy?

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Here's a curveball. Spend the 5 million we've been told we were prepared to pay for Waghorn on established a European scouting network.

100% this.

Said it before. It’s not gonna cost millions and millions to do so. But a decent investment in the technology / infrastructure could pay off and pay for itself much as the academy has done so.

We might have to do this if we can’t get the targets we want from the 4 professional leagues here

 

[Harrisblade]

This isn't Championship Manager...

I trust Tufty implicitly and would rather we're 'inactive' and pick freebies than spunk moneh.

If we don't spunk really, really big money it just proves we lack ambition and last season never happened

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Exactly what remains in our budget? There's more to running football club than paying players wages.

If we had a rumoured 5m to spend on waghorn and enough money to pay hogans wages them that was clearly factored in to spend this year....

I’m under no illusions that will go back into the running of the club but there was money there to spend. We just couldn’t find the right targets to spend it on.

 

[Sean Thornton]

If we had a rumoured 5m to spend on waghorn and enough money to pay hogans wages them that was clearly factored in to spend this year....

I’m under no illusions that will go back into the running of the club but there was money there to spend. We just couldn’t find the right targets to spend it on.

I'm doubting the£5m "bid" for Waghorn these days. Was Hogan ever really on the cards or were we just keeping in touch with his agent.? I don't know. Cynically, it kept the heat off the owners.

Unlike some though I'll give Washington a chance.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

I'm doubting the£5m "bid" for Waghorn these days. Was Hogan ever really on the cards or were we just keeping in touch with his agent.? I don't know. Cynically, it kept the heat off the owners.

Unlike some though I'll give Washington a chance.

I don’t think wilder would allow himself to be manipulated into fake bids etc. I’m sure there was a decent wedge of money to spend.

I’m not writing waghorn off either. Could be an under the radar shrewd signing.... he cost 3m not long ago (almost our transfer record) and will be playing for a side that gives him chances rather than at a basket case club like qpr. Think he could surprise some, I’m just not frustrated he’s not complimenting a top line centre forward too.