Is he good enough though?

[mattbianco1]

Friendlies? Training? You have to draw a line somewhere. Given that we aren't going to win a cup for a while, league goals are the ones that matter.

Surely competitive games of any kind count

 

[YES Blade]

On the basis that Clarke appears both undroppable AND unsubbable, I would respectfully request that it does matter.

If you have any level of passion and commitment to the cause, it matters a lot !!

In fact I’d go as far as to say getting this right is centric to our success in the league this season.

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It doesn’t matter in the sense that they both shouldn’t be more than squad players at this stage of their careers.

We need two new first choice strikers in my opinion.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Friendlies? Training? You have to draw a line somewhere. Given that we aren't going to win a cup for a while, league goals are the ones that matter.

Competitive league and cup fixtures is where the line is always drawn unless specified. Which you didn’t.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Poor show that Pinchy. Making a bet and then changing the terms of it.
The bet was clearly that Sharp won’t score “ten more goals in a Blades shirt”.
No mention of league goals only

Yes, it’s interesting that the terms have changed so quickly – I take it as a sign of worry. I’m happy to let it go, as personally I do think he will score 10 more league goals for us.

 

[DronnieBlade]

It doesn’t matter in the sense that they both shouldn’t be more than squad players at this stage of their careers.

We need two new first choice strikers in my opinion.

Agreed.

Sharp and AN other. AN other not being Leon or McG that is !!

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[Bladesman]

Competitive league and cup fixtures is where the line is always drawn unless specified. Which you didn’t.

Imagine my surprise that a troll would try to change the terms of a bet.

 

[Laney Blade]

Well. he was in the right place at the right time for his goal. That's vital. It's a real talent and not to be underestimated. He contributed very little apart from that. He rarely does. Consistently.

I think Billy can chip in with goals. And would be useful depending on the game and the time. I don't think he's a nailed on starter. However I think he has an important role to play, either like today starting or off the bench. Billy doesn't suit all situations is what I'm getting at, but is a very useful tool in the squad.

I don't know why people think Leon is keeping Billy out of the team as they are different types of players. Billy is a box player & Leon is an all rounder. They don't play the same & they have different roles. Chris has said this over & over again it's not rocket science. I believe not grasping this is why a few fans are so spiteful to Leon. It will be interesting when the new striker is here whether he's a box player or an all rounder.

 

[YES Blade]

Friendlies? Training? You have to draw a line somewhere. Given that we aren't going to win a cup for a while, league goals are the ones that matter.

This ain’t Pele we’re talking about! No one is going to start counting goals in the back garden against his kids!

 

[LJBlade]

I don't know why people think Leon is keeping Billy out of the team as they are different types of players. Billy is a box player & Leon is an all rounder. They don't play the same & they have different roles. Chris has said this over & over again it's not rocket science. I believe not grasping this is why a few fans are so spiteful to Leon. It will be interesting when the new striker is here whether he's a box player or an all rounder.

There’s a certain poster on here who’s spiteful towards Leon because he proved him very very wrong and instead of holding his hands up and accepting it he’s been desperate for a chance to claim he was ‘right all along’ ever since.

 

[Bladesman]

I don't know why people think Leon is keeping Billy out of the team as they are different types of players. Billy is a box player & Leon is an all rounder. They don't play the same & they have different roles. Chris has said this over & over again it's not rocket science. I believe not grasping this is why a few fans are so spiteful to Leon. It will be interesting when the new striker is here whether he's a box player or an all rounder.

Leon when not in any sort of form, never gets dropped unless injured.

Billy goes a game or two without scoring and is dropped instantly.

That is why people are comparing them both. Everyone is fully aware they are different types of striker but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be dropped when they are well out of form.

 

[LJBlade]

Leon when not in any sort of form, never gets dropped unless injured.

Billy goes a game or two without scoring and is dropped instantly.

That is why people are comparing them both. Everyone is fully aware they are different types of striker but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be dropped when they are well out of form.

So logic must dictate that Wilder (who’s opinion is really the only one that matters) believes that Clarke brings more to the overall team performance than Sharp does.

 

[Pinchy]

Yes, it’s interesting that the terms have changed so quickly – I take it as a sign of worry. I’m happy to let it go, as personally I do think he will score 10 more league goals for us.

I'm simply trying to make it meaningful. The thought of losing twenty quid on a couple of fun bets does not keep me awake at night. Surely you wouldn't want Billy to stumble over the line with a couple in the Under 23s?

 

[Bladesman]

So logic must dictate that Wilder (who’s opinion is really the only one that matters) believes that Clarke brings more to the overall team performance than Sharp does.

He doesn't when he is out of form though. You just have a striker wandering around low on confidence and not offering that much.

 

[Pinchy]

This ain’t Pele we’re talking about! No one is going to start counting goals in the back garden against his kids!

I'd be worried if they were there to count them...

 

[Pinchy]

He doesn't when he is out of form though. You just have a striker wandering around low on confidence and not offering that much.

You're not very neatly swerving his point...

 

[Bladesman]

You're not very neatly swerving his point...

I did respond to his point actually. Troll.

 

[DronnieBlade]

I don't know why people think Leon is keeping Billy out of the team as they are different types of players. Billy is a box player & Leon is an all rounder. They don't play the same & they have different roles. Chris has said this over & over again it's not rocket science. I believe not grasping this is why a few fans are so spiteful to Leon. It will be interesting when the new striker is here whether he's a box player or an all rounder.

Leon, categorically IS keeping Billy out the side.

Incorrectly in the view of the unsilent minority

When and if you “grasp” this, your whole world will become clearer.

Trust me

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[LJBlade]

He doesn't when he is out of form though. You just have a striker wandering around low on confidence and not offering that much.

I think you missed the point of my comment. Wilder obviously believes that he does.

 

[DronnieBlade]

So logic must dictate that Wilder (who’s opinion is really the only one that matters) believes that Clarke brings more to the overall team performance than Sharp does.

Which is where yours (and Wilders) logic becomes, bluntly, illogical !,

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[LJBlade]

I'm simply trying to make it meaningful. The thought of losing twenty quid on a couple of fun bets does not keep me awake at night. Surely you wouldn't want Billy to stumble over the line with a couple in the Under 23s?

If I may just interject on this, nobody has mentioned under 23 goals. What has been said is that competitive goals should count (i.e. goals in the league, league cup or FA Cup). That doesn’t seem that difficult to understand.

 

[LJBlade]

Which is where yours (and Wilders) logic becomes, bluntly, illogical !,

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It might be better if you actually described what you think Sharp brings to the team in terms of all round performance, instead of making snide remarks.

You may also notice that I haven’t actually put forward such an opinion but don’t let that stop you.

 

[Bladesman]

I think you missed the point of my comment. Wilder obviously believes that he does.

I just think he has a blind spot for Clarke and Stevens for that matter. Both have deserved to be dropped due to poor form.

Players need a bit of a break and I think its a lot to ask of Clarke to start every match when he isn't quite cutting it.

 

[Pinchy]

I did respond to his point actually. Troll.

You didn't, Bladey Bill. His point was that the manager takes that view. You merely repeated your own. By coincidence LJ has just responded in exactly the same way. Your description of a striker wandering around not offering much fits Sharp, when not scoring, exactly. That's why he was rightly dropped by the same manager who made him captain. It was a lot more than a game or two and it was like playing with ten men.

Anyone that thinks Sharp has somehow proved a major point today is Bladey barmy.

 

[Bladesman]

You didn't, Bladey Bill. His point was that the manager takes that view. You merely repeated your own. By coincidence LJ has just responded in exactly the same way. Your description of a striker wandering around not offering much fits Sharp, when not scoring, exactly. That's why he was rightly dropped by the same manager who made him captain. It was a lot more than a game or two and it was like playing with ten men.

Anyone that thinks Sharp has somehow proved a major point today is Bladey barmy.

I expect strikers to score goals. Sharp did his job today. Troll.

 

[LJBlade]

I just think he has a blind spot for Clarke and Stevens for that matter. Both have deserved to be dropped due to poor form.

Players need a bit of a break and I think its a lot to ask of Clarke to start every match when he isn't quite cutting it.

Now that I can agree with and for once someone has actually been able to put a conherent argument together rather than idiotically just stating “Clarke is shit, Sharp should be playing instead”.

 

[Rob86]

None of the front 3 are regular, 46 game players, in this division. McGoldrick went off injured, which has fucked us even more, Clarke can’t be arsed, so Billy is the man for the season. Is he good enough to play 43 more games. I’m sorry I have to say no.

 

[LJBlade]

I expect strikers to score goals. Sharp did his job today. Troll.

Personally I expect Strikers to do more than that. Sharp scored today which is great but I don’t think he played particularly well overall. I do think he should be playing but I don’t think today’s performance was what many are making it out to be

 

[LJBlade]

None of the front 3 are regular, 46 game players, in this division. McGoldrick went off injured, which has fucked us even more, Clarke can’t be arsed, so Billy is the man for the season. Is he good enough to play 43 more games. I’m sorry I have to say no.

This ‘Clarke can’t be arsed thing’ is bollocks.

 

[Pinchy]

If I may just interject on this, nobody has mentioned under 23 goals. What has been said is that competitive goals should count (i.e. goals in the league, league cup or FA Cup). That doesn’t seem that difficult to understand.

A remarkable number of non-participants are taking a remarkable interest in a low level friendly wager. If it matters that much I'll simply give Loughborough and ISC a tenner each. The lack of confidence in our captain's scoring ability is beginning to make me think he might not be as prolific as people say.

 

[DronnieBlade]

It might be better if you actually described what you think Sharp brings to the team in terms of all round performance, instead of making snide remarks.

You may also notice that I haven’t actually put forward such an opinion but don’t let that stop you.

As a previous discussion on this very point that I posted in May 2018, based on season 2017/2018 individual performance, Sharp’s all round performance is technically, visably and statistically superior to Leon’s in 11 out of 13 KPIs. Comparable,measurable and meaningful KPIs that is. For a striker this does not mean interceptions, etc.

Clarke scored more goals (clearly,but from many more minutes played such is that goals per minutes played is broadly identical, Leon slightly infront) and won more headers. That’s it !

Quite why I can see this,and Mr Wilder and a boatload of others,including your good self it would appear can not, is, baffling in the extreme.

I continue to be baffled by this whole episode if I am being perfectly honest.

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