Incoming? Sam Gallagher

[Keen Blade]

Jacques Maghoma apparently - get him in - Leon & Billy would get a hatfull on his assists

 

[Balham]

Jacques Maghoma apparently - get him in - Leon & Billy would get a hatfull on his assists

Ex-pig Jacques Maghoma who scored against us at St Andrews. Used to live at the top of Slayleigh Lane in Fulwood - just round the corner from my parents.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

Jacques Maghoma apparently - get him in - Leon & Billy would get a hatfull on his assists

We'll probably just end up getting Jacques Schitt instead

 

[Chali 2na]

Should have.

Sorry to be a pedant!

 

[8lade]

Hang on - you're saying that Sam Gallagher (22 years old with 17 goals at Championship level in 76 appearances for two struggling teams) and Scott Hogan (26 years old with 28 goals in 83 Championship appearances) aren't good enough but John Marquis (26 years old with 5 Championship goals in 42 appearances) is?

There's a reason that Marquis has made the majority of his appearances at League 1/2 level and the others are established second tier players.

Now I didn't say that did I? If you bother reading what I've said you'll see I discount all but Marquis as a 'possible' and if you view their highlight videos on Youtube you'll see exactly why. Both Hogan and Gallagher are nothing more than functional strikers tee them up they'll take a shot. We're not throwing money around so I don't see the point in wasting cash on Hogan, Gallagher looked better when playing for Southampton but he in no way looks as good as either Clarke or Sharp. I reiterate (even though it's not my money) I'd rather we spent nothing than signed sub standard players and does it need reiterating that almost every player Wilder has signed has come from a lower league than the Championship?

 

[Ricky]

El Accounto saying he's on 18k p/w...

Now I didn't say that did I? If you bother reading what I've said you'll see I discount all but Marquis as a 'possible' and if you view their highlight videos on Youtube you'll see exactly why. Both Hogan and Gallagher are nothing more than functional strikers tee them up they'll take a shot. We're not throwing money around so I don't see the point in wasting cash on Hogan, Gallagher looked better when playing for Southampton but he in no way looks as good as either Clarke or Sharp. I reiterate (even though it's not my money) I'd rather we spent nothing than signed sub standard players and does it need reiterating that almost every player Wilder has signed has come from a lower league than the Championship?

This is based entirely on Youtube videos of their goals?

Marquis is a more basic player than Gallagher, and certainly Hogan. Both have more ability, and flexibility.

 

[8lade]

This is based entirely on Youtube videos of their goals?

If a player doesn't look good on a highlights video they aren't going to be good. I don't have time to scout players in real life and I wouldn't do it without being paid, if you are willing to that's up to you.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

If he hasn't got a good goal to minute ratio and doesn't look good from highlights, I'd say don't bother. The fans are so desperate to sign somebody it looks like 'we' are demanding anybody and hoping for the best. If they aren't out there save your money and give our squad and youth a chance.
I'm filing Gallagher with Hogan, Toney, Eisa as not good enough. Only Marquis so far who would be a 'maybe'.

Marquis played for CW at Northampton.
If we wanted him we could have had him for nothing 2 summers ago for League 1, but CW chose not to.

 

[Ricky]

If a player doesn't look good on a highlights video they aren't going to be good. I don't have time to scout players in real life and I wouldn't do it without being paid, if you are willing to that's up to you.

It's basically a goals highlights video. And because they're not all outstanding goals, he isn't very good. Sound logic.

It's not the best highlights video for Gallagher but the least I've seen from it is that he's tall, mobile and can score with right foot, left foot and his head.

 

[8lade]

Marquis played for CW at Northampton.
If we wanted him we could have had him for nothing 2 summers ago for League 1, but CW chose not to.

We're fishing in a very small pond given our limited resources, it's interesting to know he's been under Wilder before but some players develop later than others.

It's basically a goals highlights video. And because they're not all outstanding goals, he isn't very good. Sound logic.

I just don't see anything there that would remotely be a challenge to an ageing Clarke. All the goals were served up on a plate, no doubt there are reams of stats out there somewhere which may show a whole lot more about Gallagher, Hogan, Eisa, Toney, Marriott or whoever BUT buying players from Villa, Southampton etc is going to be a huge financial risk which is not something I agree with, if I saw footage of somebody repeatedly striking the ball cleanly, winning aerial battles or out pacing other players I'd be a whole lot happier of United's pursuit of them. However all I'm seeing is scrambled goals, unchallenged headers and defensive errors; at best you can see from that is a goal poacher and given the numbers returned not a hugely successful one.

 

[Mouth of the South]

Despite saying you don't have time to scout players yourself, you seem to be doubting CW's, AK's and PM's judgement on players - the latter's job being head of recruitment i.e. scouting and recruitment is his full time job and he's proven he's extremely successful at it over a number of years.

 

[LJBlade]

El Accounto saying he's on 18k p/w...






This is based entirely on Youtube videos of their goals?

Marquis is a more basic player than Gallagher, and certainly Hogan. Both have more ability, and flexibility.

Those figures (£18k and £43k) are straight out of the report I mentioned earlier from the Daily Mirror. £43k was the total per week after you include the loan fee, not what Gallagher was earning

 

[Newarkblade]

On twitter @exagent1 suggesting it is likely to be a permanent deal. He has got a hell of a lot right so far regarding transfers

 

[EddieColquhoun]

On twitter @exagent1 suggesting it is likely to be a permanent deal. He has got a hell of a lot right so far regarding transfers

He didn't convince me when questioned about it:


ExAgent‏ @ExAgent1




Sam Gallagher looks like becoming a Blade, if Southampton agree.

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‏ @Zakbrownz 20h20 hours ago


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Perm or loan?

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I believe permanently, but I didn't discuss the finer details with my contact. We had other stuff to talk about, I'm going to his holiday cottage on Tresco next month.

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[Newarkblade]

He didn't convince me when questioned about it:


ExAgent‏ @ExAgent1




Sam Gallagher looks like becoming a Blade, if Southampton agree.

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‏ @Zakbrownz 20h20 hours ago


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Perm or loan?

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I believe permanently, but I didn't discuss the finer details with my contact. We had other stuff to talk about, I'm going to his holiday cottage on Tresco next month.

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I agree that he hasn't said too much to confirm, but he only seems to tweet when he knows something and has got very little wrong recently and tends to hint rather than give everything away

 

[Ricky]

Wouldn't surprise me if we just signed him out of the blue following that article in The Star. There's obviously something there and I have no doubt that he's one we'd try to sign if the budget is there.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Would be pleased with this - still feel it’s a level above where we are currently operating. Would be pleased though right age and we will create chances for him.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Wouldn't surprise me if we just signed him out of the blue following that article in The Star. There's obviously something there and I have no doubt that he's one we'd try to sign if the budget is there.

Yeah, any transfers news is now seemingly managed solely by CW.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Wouldn't surprise me if we just signed him out of the blue following that article in The Star. There's obviously something there and I have no doubt that he's one we'd try to sign if the budget is there.

On the cost of Gallagher. There’s no doubt Southampton dropped a bollock trusting Harry to manage his development.

If he’s got 15-20 goals for us last season his value would be worth far far more than whatever loan fee Birmingham paid for him.

 

[Ricky]

On the cost of Gallagher. There’s no doubt Southampton dropped a bollock trusting Harry to manage his development.

If he’s got 15-20 goals for us last season his value would be worth far far more than whatever loan fee Birmingham paid for him.

Indeed. A great lesson for clubs not to put money above all else when loaning out their young players.

It was clear immediately that the reason he went to Birmingham was purely financial, and completely unsurprising that his loan spell wasn't footballistically successful.

Southampton have probably cost themselves a lot of money, ultimately. They'd be looking at £10m if he scored 15 last season, now they'll be lucky to get half that.

 

[FTPE]

18 goals in 107 appearances. You can't blame it all on Harry.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

18 goals in 107 appearances. You can't blame it all on Harry.

He’s got 20 in 70 starts I believe (inc the Cup). Got 11 in 34 (1/3) for a dog shit relegated Blackburn side in the championship .

I do think he’d score with the chances we create. Redknapp has proved time and again he cares nothing for players progression - he’s the ultimate spunk anything he can get short termist.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

We'd be ideal for Gallacher and he'd be ideal for SUFC.

Would really like this to happen.

 

[Pinchy]

We'd be ideal for Gallacher and he'd be ideal for SUFC.

Would really like this to happen.

I know little about him. You usually know what you’re on about. Intrigued as to why, please?

 

[Pinchy]

18 goals in 107 appearances. You can't blame it all on Harry.

No. It’s the dog.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I know little about him. You usually know what you’re on about. Intrigued as to why, please?

A player that has always been highly rated at Southampton, a club known to have an excellent academy, had a good loan spell at a very poor Blackburn side. This ensured a scramble for his services the following season - Birmingham winning that battle by throwing large amounts of money at it. He didn't fit their style and struggled for minutes and form.

We now have a player who has shown his talent, but has now hit a bit of a rut and will be chomping at the bit to play in a confident team - his value has also been affected which therefore gives us a bit of scope to sign him.

He stretches the game and brings others into play very well, that's what (IMO) we need in one of the new strikers we bring in.

A good fit all round.

 

[Booker4]

A player that has always been highly rated at Southampton, a club known to have an excellent academy, had a good loan spell at a very poor Blackburn side. This ensured a scramble for his services the following season - Birmingham winning that battle by throwing large amounts of money at it. He didn't fit their style and struggled for minutes and form.

We now have a player who has shown his talent, but has now hit a bit of a rut and will be chomping at the bit to play in a confident team - his value has also been affected which therefore gives us a bit of scope to sign him.

He stretches the game and brings others into play very well, that's what (IMO) we need in one of the new strikers we bring in.

A good fit all round.

Better than Hugill in your view mate? I don't think we can afford Hugill to be honest, or they'll be more wealthier clubs interested that he'll choose but I really like to prospect of Hugill on loan. Gallagher more realistic.

 

[Ricky]

Better than Hugill in your view mate? I don't think we can afford Hugill to be honest, or they'll be more wealthier clubs interested that he'll choose but I really like to prospect of Hugill on loan. Gallagher more realistic.

Gallagher's better technically than Hugill. Also taller and more versatile. I'd prefer him ahead of Hugill, on any basis - loan or permanent.

Hugill is stronger, more hardworking and more proven over a longer period. But Gallagher's certainly ahead of where Hugill was at his age. If he just gets a bit stronger I think he'll be physically perfect for the target man role.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Better than Hugill in your view mate? I don't think we can afford Hugill to be honest, or they'll be more wealthier clubs interested that he'll choose but I really like to prospect of Hugill on loan. Gallagher more realistic.

Never got the fuss (or valuation) of Hugill. He’d only be a loan option as well and if we got Gallacher permanently then even better.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

We'd be ideal for Gallacher and he'd be ideal for SUFC.

Would really like this to happen.

It’s a mutual love affair. I can feel it.