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Don't throw your dirty water out until you have got some fresh, my area manager said a few seconds after sacking the branch manager, when the new manager saw the old one leaving he walked through the door.

Its almost the end of the season, some players will be leaving to join better teams, some will be leaving to join lower teams, some will be leaving to stack shelves at Tesco.

If we stay in the championship will it mean that some players will have there careers at the lane extended ?
are some players scared of promotion & the uncertainty it would bring to there footballing future?
is staying in the championship a safer option for some players & are they looking more to 2 weeks in the sun rather than the next few games?
 



Don't throw your dirty water out until you have got some fresh, my area manager said a few seconds after sacking the branch manager, when the new manager saw the old one leaving he walked through the door.

Its almost the end of the season, some players will be leaving to join better teams, some will be leaving to join lower teams, some will be leaving to stack shelves at Tesco.

If we stay in the championship will it mean that some players will have there careers at the lane extended ?
are some players scared of promotion & the uncertainty it would bring to there footballing future?
is staying in the championship a safer option for some players & are they looking more to 2 weeks in the sun rather than the next few games?
Very interesting opening post.
I'm not so sure that they're scared of promotion but you're right that certain players will not be at bdtbl next season.
It's too early to say who those players will be but I would send Wilson back as he's been disappointing whilst on loan. I M O.
I think Donaldson will be surplus to requirements!.
We shall see what happens but let's get the season finished first!. UTB
 
This logic confuses me. If we got promoted everyone would get a pay rise. If they're sold then their status would be higher and they could command a higher wage than they get from us at the moment.
 
This logic confuses me. If we got promoted everyone would get a pay rise. If they're sold then their status would be higher and they could command a higher wage than they get from us at the moment.

It's from the same book of logic that used to say our board wanted to keep us in the Championship.
 
Don't throw your dirty water out until you have got some fresh, my area manager said a few seconds after sacking the branch manager, when the new manager saw the old one leaving he walked through the door.

Its almost the end of the season, some players will be leaving to join better teams, some will be leaving to join lower teams, some will be leaving to stack shelves at Tesco.

If we stay in the championship will it mean that some players will have there careers at the lane extended ?
are some players scared of promotion & the uncertainty it would bring to there footballing future?
is staying in the championship a safer option for some players & are they looking more to 2 weeks in the sun rather than the next few games?

As an avid reader but infrequent contributor to this site I think I'm better placed than anyone on here to offer up this boards general consensus in relation to who'll be going in the summer . The grounds for leavers are as follows ( 1 ) not good enough ( 2 ) too good ( 3 ) not bad but a makeweight in future transfer ( 4 ) not bad but needed to free up wages ( 5 ) McCabe selling the best we have and pocketing the cash ( 6 ) HRH selling cos van winkie pooh ses so or ( 7 ) the Desso needs an upgrade .

Moore
Stevens
Baldock
O Connell
Basham
Stearman
Wright
Freeman
Lafferty
Evans
Fleck
Coutts
Duffy
Brooks
Holmes
Lundstram
Leonard
Sharp
Clarke
Donaldson
Every player who's here on loan
Every player who's out on loan

CW's gonna be a busy man this summer as he'll be busy rebuilding at West Brom
 
As an avid reader but infrequent contributor to this site I think I'm better placed than anyone on here to offer up this boards general consensus in relation to who'll be going in the summer . The grounds for leavers are as follows ( 1 ) not good enough ( 2 ) too good ( 3 ) not bad but a makeweight in future transfer ( 4 ) not bad but needed to free up wages ( 5 ) McCabe selling the best we have and pocketing the cash ( 6 ) HRH selling cos van winkie pooh ses so or ( 7 ) the Desso needs an upgrade .

Moore
Stevens
Baldock
O Connell
Basham
Stearman
Wright
Freeman
Lafferty
Evans
Fleck
Coutts
Duffy
Brooks
Holmes
Lundstram
Leonard
Sharp
Clarke
Donaldson
Every player who's here on loan
Every player who's out on loan

CW's gonna be a busy man this summer as he'll be busy rebuilding at West Brom

Hey what about that Carruthers guy ?
Anyone would think he hasn't got a pot to piss in !
 
Don't throw your dirty water out until you have got some fresh, my area manager said a few seconds after sacking the branch manager, when the new manager saw the old one leaving he walked through the door.

Its almost the end of the season, some players will be leaving to join better teams, some will be leaving to join lower teams, some will be leaving to stack shelves at Tesco.

If we stay in the championship will it mean that some players will have there careers at the lane extended ?
are some players scared of promotion & the uncertainty it would bring to there footballing future?
is staying in the championship a safer option for some players & are they looking more to 2 weeks in the sun rather than the next few games?

Yes staying in the Champ is better than getting to the Premiership, getting an automatic wage rise / promotion bonus and being in a far better position to negotiate a deal here / at another Championship club.
 
Players who will leave:

1. J.Wilson - end of loan
2. J.Wright - released
3. L.Reed - released
4. J.Hanson - released
5. C.Hussey - small fee
6. G. Long - small fee
7. S. Carruthers - fee
8. C.Donaldson - released
 
Yes staying in the Champ is better than getting to the Premiership, getting an automatic wage rise / promotion bonus and being in a far better position to negotiate a deal here / at another Championship club.

Of course we don't want to go up. McCabe was happy in L1 remember and he'd have got away with it to if it hadn't been for him appointing that pesky Wilder.
 
I think we need to let ched go at the end of season , we are paying him 5 grand a week
For his rehabilitation
 
I will confidently predict, and with a heavy heavy heart, that John Fleck will go in the summer for a fee of around £4m.

Sharp will have the captaincy stripped, have serious talks with other clubs, but ultimately accept a semi permanent position on the bench at UTD.

Kieron Freeman will go.

Danny Lafferty will go.

Jake Wright will go.

Hanson and Lavery will be moved on.

Donaldson, I believe is on a 1 year rolling. He won’t be rolling with us next season !

Ched will get a pre season and will either prove almost everyone wrong by firing again from the get go, or go out on loan to a L1 club.

Leon will continue to blow hot and cold !

Wilson will go back to Man U to compete for a shirt with Lukaku, Rashford and Lewandowski !!!

Coutts will come back in to the fold and will initially struggle to find his top form.

New signing Lee Gregory will start off quite well but fade badly.

Lundstram will finally learn to cut out the “daft pass that was never ever on” and will become a really accomplished Championship CM.

Lee Evans will be asked to fill the Fleck void and do OK with it.

Ricky Holmes, Ryan Leonard and Sami Curruthers will all end up in a cab together heading “darn sarf” to secure moves or loans.

There will be about 6 new players come in to the club, mostly from Championship and L1 clubs for a combined spend of less than what is raised in player sales.

And Finally. The piece de resistance.

Wilder and Knill will go to West Brom. Maybe ;)

UTB
 
Of course we don't want to go up. McCabe was happy in L1 remember and he'd have got away with it to if it hadn't been for him appointing that pesky Wilder.

Ah what memories Sean....Scooby Doo...... and of course.........Daphne :)
 



This logic confuses me. If we got promoted everyone would get a pay rise. If they're sold then their status would be higher and they could command a higher wage than they get from us at the moment.

Herein lies the problem which no-one has cottoned on to yet. If we get promoted they won't get a pay rise because with about 3 exceptions none of the team are good enough for the premier league. And because they've all recently signed new contracts on good money no club in the championship or lower can afford them (you want to take Leon or Billy off us, only £15k per week? No fucking chance). So they'll stick where they are anyway, take the money and sit it out for a couple of years..
 
Yes staying in the Champ is better than getting to the Premiership, getting an automatic wage rise / promotion bonus and being in a far better position to negotiate a deal here / at another Championship club.
For most of our players playing in the premiership is not an option, the best they can hope for is staying in the championship or playing for chesterfield.
 
Herein lies the problem which no-one has cottoned on to yet. If we get promoted they won't get a pay rise because with about 3 exceptions none of the team are good enough for the premier league. And because they've all recently signed new contracts on good money no club in the championship or lower can afford them (you want to take Leon or Billy off us, only £15k per week? No fucking chance). So they'll stick where they are anyway, take the money and sit it out for a couple of years..

If they are still under contract and their current contract states a pay rise for promotion to the Premiere League (which it will do) then they will get a pay rise as it, erm....says so in their contract.... Whether they are good enough or not is irrelevant.
 
If they are still under contract and their current contract states a pay rise for promotion to the Premiere League (which it will do) then they will get a pay rise as it, erm....says so in their contract.... Whether they are good enough or not is irrelevant.

It's unlikely they'd get a pay rise, more likely a bonus which is a one-off and a completely different thing. The problem will still remain however, i.e. we'd be stuck with a gaggle of old timers on good money who we'd be unable to offload.
 
It's unlikely they'd get a pay rise, more likely a bonus which is a one-off and a completely different thing. The problem will still remain however, i.e. we'd be stuck with a gaggle of old timers on good money who we'd be unable to offload.

They will no doubt get a one off promotion bonus as you have said to share between the team but I have also no doubt it will be written into their contracts what wage they are on for each division if their agents are worth their salt. I am surprised you think it would be otherwise?

I do agree many may well not be good enough for the prem. They will either be paid off or sold with an agreement about their contract if they would have earned significantly more just by staying put. Hammond was a case in point. Many blame Hammond but it was the club that agreed the contract.
 
Herein lies the problem which no-one has cottoned on to yet. If we get promoted they won't get a pay rise because with about 3 exceptions none of the team are good enough for the premier league. And because they've all recently signed new contracts on good money no club in the championship or lower can afford them (you want to take Leon or Billy off us, only £15k per week? No fucking chance). So they'll stick where they are anyway, take the money and sit it out for a couple of years..
As a shareholder and having some very private information about finances at BDTBL there is nobody on more than £ 8,000 a week except Blackman and Wilson, and the extra those 2 get is paid by their respective clubs and not us.
 
I think we need to let ched go at the end of season , we are paying him 5 grand a week
For his rehabilitation

Is he really contracted to 2020? Talk about non-football-related expenditure.
 
I think we could well see the end of Jake Wright although it would be good if he was offered a player/coach role, Billy could well go as I don’t see him being first choice next season, Lavery/Hanson/Hussy/ I expect to be released and if we can get a fee for Lafferty/Carruthers/Reedy/Ched I can see them all going Thomas I reckon could well go out on loan again with a couple of the younger lads possibly Semple and Ty Smith
 
George Long - Loan
Ben Heneghan - 300k
Daniel Lafferty - 100k
Chris Hussey - 1 bag of peanuts and a toilet brush
Louis Reed - Loan
Regan Slater - Loan
Samir Carruthers - 350k
Nathan Thomas - 200k
James Hanson - 50k compensation (to whoever signs him)
Caolan Lavery - 150k
Clayton Donaldson - Released
Ched Evans - Loan
James Wilson - Loan return


So we might bring in £1m in fees if we're lucky... without selling Fleck or Brooks.

Perfect amount of space created to bring in Blackman and 5 or 6 others.
 
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I don't see why people are so keen to get rid of Wright and Donaldson. Both do a job when needed and are useful squad players to have, unlike a few of the others that never get used and don't do a lot when they are. Ideally they'd be needed less if we bring in the right quality to boost the starting line-up, but they shouldn't be top priorities to release unless they are on ridiculous contracts.
 
It's unlikely they'd get a pay rise, more likely a bonus which is a one-off and a completely different thing. The problem will still remain however, i.e. we'd be stuck with a gaggle of old timers on good money who we'd be unable to offload.

Of course they'll get a pay rise if we get promotion, it's written in every players contract.
 

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