Wilder's interview tonight

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PokerBlade said:
The RS interview is absolutely brutal.

My issue with it is that these warning signs have been around for a while now. He was willing to say he was comfortable and the team did well in the last twenty vs. QPR but that was exactly the same as what happened tonight. We've been doing this overly predictable thing with far too much long ball for a few games now. Clarke isn't a target man. If you want to hoof balls up to heads then don't send Hanson out on loan. Even if our passing game is weak at the moment it'll always be better for us than hit and hope. Tired legs or not, we didn't look like we were even trying to play the same system that we started the season with.

I won't write any player off this early but watching Leonard was just sad. Never seen a player look so lost and confused as to what he's supposed to be doing. I don't really blame the strikers because I waited 90 minutes and didn't see a decent cross. Fleck was poor by his standards. The defence not only went long, but went aimless with is. What happened to the team that put twenty pass moves together to make a goal? What happened to the team that got players forward and moved it around at pace? Where was any kind of pressure on the ball?

I hate to criticise a manager who's done as much, cares as much, and tries as hard for us as Wilder, but unless he's telling me that his players have decided to stop listening to him overnight, I have to put some blame at his door. While our league position is a huge over achievement, and I'm more than willing to accept finishing outside the play-offs, some of the recent performances are way below the standards we've set for ourselves. If we're getting the maximum from our players then don't have a go at them. You can't have it both ways.

I'm behind Wilder all the way. He's achieved amazing things in a job that was starting to look cursed. And I want to get behind what he's said tonight because there's a lot of truth in it. Still, it's far too emotional. I don't want to hear about desire. I want to hear whether your instructions have changed over the season or whether the players have stopped listening, because that wasn't the system I recognise or the one that's brought us success. I want to hear that we're going back to the kind of football that had everyone raving about us.

And a big part of me thinks, fuck all of that I just wrote. If we come out the traps on Tuesday night like I know we can then Wilder will have proven me an idiot and himself a genius yet again. I'd shit myself if I even imagined what would happen to us without him so all we can do is sit back and hope we get back on track.
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AWetFlannel said:
We played that same midfield three against Norwich and played well.
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But we’ve played it in multiple games since and it hasn’t worked and we end up looking flat and void of ideas. There is no flair in those 3 players so it’s not difficult to see why it doesn’t work.

A win against a tired Norwich team who had played 120 minutes against Chelsea 3 days before is very much the exception and not the rule.
 
The criticism of Wilder is totally misplaced. Hes got players ripping up teams this season we couldnt dream of 2 years ago
The malaise last night came from players, who hit a mental brick wall. one moment in particular in the second half when hull were on the attack and the ball fell to 4 of our players stood in a group wih a hull player 2 yards away , managed to panic that badly they bagatelled it against each others legs in an organised display of incompetance. gifting it to the hull player Some sort of mental fear of succeeding had took hold and they all looked petrified

Players belief can be very brittle, all 10 outfield players last night went from brittle to shattered

lets pray it was an isolated effort
 
I hope none of these players were late to get back on the coach or asked if the coach could drop them at the top of the parkway. Card school cancelled, that would not have been an easy ride home.
 
QPR game had the writing on the wall, backs to the wall and it got worse and this game carried it on and it got much worse. The team were very poor against a very poor Hull team. That interview may do the trick and jolt the players awake but we were poor and unless they wake up its a mid table finish for sure.

IMHO the style of play changed in the last three games and I feel we should go back to having a constant go at the opposition...Having said that tonights performance would not have allowed us to do that successfully.

Lets see how we respond in the next game.....I also hope the board listen very hard to the interview too
 
He didn't hold back,I'm sure there's a bit of Psychology going off in that he left Billy and Leon out of the criticism...probably the 2 main characters in the changing room that the other players look to..Wonder if they'll be underlining what CW was saying and telling them the Gaffer is right and we have to be better...I'm sure we'll see a better performance v Reading,but i expect one or two changes.
 
I doubt very much knill and Wilder have brought in a different style of play , why would they

They , through injuries have changed personnel and brought in a few new players who have to adapt to it ,.But when adhered to it still works fine
But players were not passing well and strangely not offering themselves as options as they do when we are buzzing
It was baffling watching it seeing the complete lack of movement and getting into the rythym we used to find so easily
Wing backs werent going forward , basham never been in our own half as much , just every player had on the night lost the plot
 
Ive not listened to his interview.

But Wilder has created a problem that was not there by bringing in Evans and Leonard,he is now falling into the trap of having to justify the signings by playing them at the expense of Duffy and Lundstram,its upset the apple cart.

Leonard will never make it in the championship he is too weak cannot hold onto the ball,he is not what we needed and Southend had our pants down with him,i can see him being loaned back next season to league 1.

Evans he is so one dimensional,he is basically Lundstram by another name.

Fleck must be scratching his head when he is asked to play with any 2 of those 3,and it shows in our slow slow play and is possibly why the defenders are now hoofing the ball more and more.

It is no wonder that our strikers are looking poor there is no service.

Last nite only Baldock showed any sort of drive.

Never mind we are higher than anyone expected us to be,but i dont look forward to next season,unless we get more quality and strength in the middle of the park.
 
I think everyone is a little tired and emotional at the moment. At least he didn't keep them on the pitch at half time. Look how well that went for Phil Brown.
 
Hmm - it felt a bit like a public kick up the backside for the players, i.e. "I dont think you are good enough so prove me wrong". Yes he is hurting, and maybe it was a bit too emotional, but it may get the reaction he is looking for from the players.

Love it when he talks about it not being enough to finish 8th, 9th 10th - settling for being average is not enough in my book either and it's good to hear a manager with such amibtion.

Although I do agree with other posters about his team selection for last night - now is the time to field our best side, and Mark Duffy has to play.
 
ChipButtyBlade said:
Wilder has created a problem that was not there by bringing in Evans and Leonard,he is now falling into the trap of having to justify the signings by playing them at the expense of Duffy and Lundstram,its upset the apple cart.
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ABSOLUTELY....

took the words directly.......
 
CarlMcBlade said:
He stole all the words straight from my lips. He is a fan so he expresses himself just like us. An absolute million miles from what Adkin used to tell us. He pissed down our necks and told us it was raining.
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Remember that horror performance at Bury under Adkins?, similar to last night.

Afterwards Adkins said we played well.
 
When we were playing well earlier in the season Wilder and Knill (rightly) got most of the credit, as others have said this has been coming although not as bad as it was last night but we have changed our approach ,more direct, what happened to JOC bombing forward, balls from the left towards the right flank on a regular basis and going nowhere ,defense looking a little unsure with the ball, goalkeeper kicking it long most of the time,as a team we are rarely on the front foot, it's been like it in general for weeks, it's right the players did let us down but Wilder and Knill are more to blame, they have changed our tactics, it's not working, I would love to ask Chris why have you changed our style? And before anybody says it, its not down to coutts, don't help I agree but successful teams stick to there style of play with a few tweaks depending on the opposition
 



Standing next to the guy who now claims to have provided the foundation on which Wilder built his success I can understand why Wilder would feel let down and angry, just putting a marker down for his team. He is not a speech writer so worry less about the words but focus on the intent - see ya Tuesday.
 
I've just watched the game, mostly at twice the speed. It was a performance, so out of character. Obviously we are all guessing as to why. I showed a bit of it to my sports psychologist colleague. He thought they looked scared. As we know, fear paralyses. That was our guess, for what it's worth. The reasons why they were 'scared', is another question.
CW's comment recently, 'our season starts now' probably put a bit of pressure on them, pressure that caused them to freeze. That is just a guess and could be bollocks, as it could be a whole host of things. Equally, his comment about the playoffs being out of reach now, could lift that pressure. I suspect they are all wondering what went wrong. On one of my courses for one of my badges, a successful English manager said, 'where players' heads are concerned, there are always more questions than answers'.
CW, by his own admission, built a team to get us out of League 1. He is learning and by the end of the season will, I am sure, know what is needed to build a team to get us out of this one. That's assuming he doesn't get us up this year. I wouldn't write us off just yet, though I admit, it doesn't look likely.
 
Chali 2na said:
What a completely needless post.

No matter how poor the performance was, or how dissapointed you are, calling the players "utter shit" and Wilder "a knob" is inexcusable.

Plenty have posters on this thread have criticised the selection, tactics and performance without managing to be completely derogatory.

I find it hard to believe you'd say that to Wilder's face, and if you did, you'd perfectly represent some of the aspects of a football fan I hate.

Again, dreadful post.
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It's not anti - wilder . My comments are only in reference to the post match interview . To go on record and say that that's all they are capable of is not correct . We all know they are capable of much better , and he seamed to absolve himself of any responsibility for the performance . Wilder has done a fantastic job so far and based on previous comments it's been about the team spirit and togetherness from the management , players and supporters . His comments last night were unhelpful in a team struggling to find form with some new signings yet to hit the mark . Win as a team and accept defeat and poor performance as a team . If the players blamed the manager it would be inexcusable
I didn't say the players were utter shit , the performance was . You could tell he was dissapointed and angry at the performance but might regret his comments in the cold light of day . On Monday they have to regroup and go again , he probably knows as well as we do that he'll get it right .
 
Getting back to the original comment. After watching the the interview i thought good on yer however after having time to reflect not sure now. Wilders past interviews have usually been around how much the opposing team cost and the perceived individual talent on display from said team and how we stuffed um. I was never sure whether he was saying didn't i do well or didn't my team do well (same thing i suppose) so he most except some blame for last nights display through team selection etc however you cant plan for collective poor play. Whilst his comments were mostly honest I don't see how he could single Billy and Leon out for praise they were as poor as anyone out there in my opinion. Dawson had the better of Leon all night.
 
Roygbiv said:
Totally agree with that. I dont think he was spinning anything, I think he was genuinely let down by the desire of the team. As Wilder said, It really felt like that by winning the last 2 they had done their bit and they didn't really have the desire to win the next one. I think that's what Wilder was getting at when he said the team has gone as far as it can. I don't think he meant it in terms of quality, i think he meant in terms of ambition. Tonight they didn't play anything like a side who really thought they had a chance of promotion. As he said there is no way Cardiff lose there tonight no matter how poor they play.
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Respectfully, and I hope you know how much I value what you do on the forum Roy, but we may have to agree to disagree. Of course, it's all conjecture and know one will know other than Wilder, but if it were me I'd be fuming after what I witnessed. Each and every one of the players must have realised the importance of every game between now and the season's end? Surely they look at the Championship table and can work out the possibilities? Don't they want to stand a chance of playing in the Premiership?

It's not complicated mate, we may get beaten but at least we should go down fighting. Last night was lame and spineless, there are no days off, and anyone amongst our players who thinks there is should be put on detention to write 1000 times, "I'll never waste the time of a Blade's supporter all the while I play for this club", because that's what happened last night. For those that travelled it was a waste of an evening, I wonder if the modern footballer understands the consequence of this sort of performance on the supporters?
 
grafikhaus said:
Whether CW interview was a 'rocket up the arse' for the players I don't know. But I wish he hadn't alluded to (more or less) seeing the season out. This is a critical time of the season as how we perform will directly impact on the enthusiasm/season ticket sales going into next season.

Anyway, he's right about not finishing in the top six and I said it after the QPR game. We've not got any leeway after dropping too many points since Coutts got injured. We'll have more evenings like last Tuesday when there were four matches in the Championship - most featuring our rivals. Some will lose or only draw, but not all of them. Therefore we've got to win and keep on winning which, to be frank, we've not been doing (it's October 27th - the win at Leeds - since we won more than 2 on the trot).

But I'm not surprised. Nobody is 'letting CW down' or 'couldn't be arsed'. We're witnessing the end of an era that started when CW arrived and it's finally caught up with us. I don't want to single out individual players but I'll just name Basham. He's been performing to the very limits of his ability for most of this season and when up against the better players at this level (Wolves away, for example) he looks pitifully exposed. It's only natural.

So did any of our players go into last night's game thinking the team 'only had to turn up'? I doubt it, but it seems some of our fans did. Regardless of their position, Hull can still put out a tidy side - McGregor, Irvine, Dicko, Diomande, Larsson, Bowen, Dawson would all walk into our squad. There are no easy games in the Championship. (Think next Saturday at home to Burton will be a walkover? Don't bet on it).

Fitness is another consideration. While it would be ludicrous to say that our players 'aren't fit', there are degrees of fitness. A lot of the Hull players have recent PL experience and that makes them a different animal. (When we played Hull in the 2014 Semi, one of our players said that - up close - a lot of Hull's players were built like Welterweight/Middleweight boxers). Despite our staff's best efforts, you're simply not going to change players such as Duffy, Baldock, Stevens, Fleck etc. (who have spent most of their careers in the lower leagues) into something they aren't.

A mid-table finish - while disappointing given where we've been all season - is still creditable for a first season back in the Championship. And probably a fair reflection.
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It boils my piss when teams like Hull, who have been under performing all season, then seem to go,” you know what, it’s sheffield United I think I’ll put a shift in for this game”.
If I was a hull supporter, and Nigel Adkins, thank fuck I’m not, would be very pissed off that they can put an effort in when it suits. Been a few teams against us that have put a lot more into their game, than their position in the league suggests. I know it’s down to us to overcome these things, but it does wind me up.
 
The Fox said:
It's not anti - wilder . My comments are only in reference to the post match interview . To go on record and say that that's all they are capable of is not correct . We all know they are capable of much better , and he seamed to absolve himself of any responsibility for the performance . Wilder has done a fantastic job so far and based on previous comments it's been about the team spirit and togetherness from the management , players and supporters . His comments last night were unhelpful in a team struggling to find form with some new signings yet to hit the mark . Win as a team and accept defeat and poor performance as a team . If the players blamed the manager it would be inexcusable
I didn't say the players were utter shit , the performance was . You could tell he was dissapointed and angry at the performance but might regret his comments in the cold light of day . On Monday they have to regroup and go again , he probably knows as well as we do that he'll get it right .
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If you had posted this last night rather than that drivel, you woudln' t have got any flack from me - just as Wilder may regret his comments today, so might you.
 
itsinyerblood said:
Respectfully, and I hope you know how much I value what you do on the forum Roy, but we may have to agree to disagree. Of course, it's all conjecture and know one will know other than Wilder, but if it were me I'd be fuming after what I witnessed. Each and every one of the players must have realised the importance of every game between now and the season's end? Surely they look at the Championship table and can work out the possibilities? Don't they want to stand a chance of playing in the Premiership?

It's not complicated mate, we may get beaten but at least we should go down fighting. Last night was lame and spineless, there are no days off, and anyone amongst our players who thinks there is should be put on detention to write 1000 times, "I'll never waste the time of a Blade's supporter all the while I play for this club", because that's what happened last night. For those that travelled it was a waste of an evening, I wonder if the modern footballer understands the consequence of this sort of performance on the supporters?
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I don't think we are disagreeing at all. I agree with everything you say above.
 
For those that have only watched the Sky interview, Wilder is more specific in his interview with Giddings in calling certain players out in addition to simply saying only the strikers came out with any credit from it.

Specifically, 3 mins into the interview: “Jack O’Connell never stepped over the halfway line, Bash stepped over it a couple of times, the two wingbacks were poor in everything they did, the midfield players kept giving the ball away didn’t win enough first or second balls and made poor decisions, and I take the front two out of it because I thought they looked bright and lively”.

Brutal.
 
Jonboy60 said:
It boils my piss when teams like Hull, who have been under performing all season, then seem to go,” you know what, it’s sheffield United I think I’ll put a shift in for this game”.
If I was a hull supporter, and Nigel Adkins, thank fuck I’m not, would be very pissed off that they can put an effort in when it suits. Been a few teams against us that have put a lot more into their game, than their position in the league suggests. I know it’s down to us to overcome these things, but it does wind me up.
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I hear what you say, but why should a team 'put in a shift' because it's the Blades? Is it 'cos we're masseeev? Or is it because we're seen as a soft touch?

I think similarly about the much-hyped FA Cup 'giantkilling' acts. These poxy little clubs couldn't give a fuck last week or next week, but magically turn it on when it suits them.
 
i agree - Baldock tried and was our only threat and pace. I think CW may have realised last night how poor his JTW signings were. Leonard needs dropping now. Evans is ok I suppose. just hope Holmes shows some spark and we seem to have loaned another crock in Wilson. Send him back
 
Very unfair to say Baldock was poor, he was our best attacking threat. The midfield three were woeful. Leonard electing to shoot (wide) when Baldock was screaming for the ball, to his right, with a clear chance on goal.

No one marking Dicko for his goal, etc.
 
Roygbiv said:
I don't think we are disagreeing at all. I agree with everything you say above.
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Sorry Roy, slight details were missed by myself. As you wrote, we are in agreement on Wilder's intent, and I hope the players pick up the gauntlet he's thrown down and show us they want this as much as the manager does.
 



LoughboroBlade thanks for posting that, I haven't heard the Radio Sheffield interview. Calling out players like that is indeed brutal.

But, objectively, the strikers "bright and lively"? Give over. Leon was uninterested and occasionally sulky, and Billy was anonymous. Wonder why they get a free pass? Senior pro's that he needs to get the dressing room back on track?
 
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