SUFC Player Values

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Think the key is 1)having a player that's consistently hit form in this league 2)having a player that is young and special (Brookes) 3)Having a player that someone wants. Maybe because they play in a way or position sought after (Madine)
Tick any of them boxes, and in today's inflated market, anyone could suddenly be worth silly money .
 
We're in the championship now, championship appearances put £££'s on players. Also some of the purchased figures are understated. These are my transfer window valuations as at 31 January 2018.

Moore £490k - £2.5 million
Baldock £500k - £4 million
Stevens - Free - £2 million
Basham - Free - £2 million
Stearman - £600k - £2 million
Jack - £350k - £10 million
Fleck - Free - £12 million
Coutts - £250k - £8 million
Duffy - Free - £3 million (age keeps value down)
Clarke - £250k - £ 5 million ( as above)
Brooks - Academy - £20 million
Sharp - £600k - £2 million
Eastwood - Academy - £250k
Freeman - £250k - £1. 5 million
Lafferty - Free - £350k
Wright - Free - £750k
Heneghan - £300k - £400k
Lundstram - £700k - £1.5 million
Carruthers -£350k - £500k
Evans - £750k - £850k
Leonard - £700k - £800k
Holmes - £400k - £500k
Don - £50k - £400k
Ched - £250k - £750k
FMD.

Don’t let McCabe see that ;)

UTB
 
Stearman was almost half that and that was a bargain, for me. Proven at Championship level? Like Stearman is you mean? He’s played 14 games and now can’t make the bench. The other’s instrumental. But he’s not Jake Wright :)
They're worth a very similar value then obviously, based on the face we signed him for half? So what's the surprise in aid of?
Wright isn't worth more as is noted above but he's certainly not worth much less. They're similar in terms of ability.

Fair play to Stearman, that mean's he's now had a similar amount of good games for us this year as Jake has.
That's not me taking anything away from him, just being honest.
 
They're worth a very similar value then obviously, based on the face we signed him for half? So what's the surprise in aid of?
Wright isn't worth more as is noted above but he's certainly not worth much less. They're similar in terms of ability.

Fair play to Stearman, that mean's he's now had a similar amount of good games for us this year as Jake has.
That's not me taking anything away from him, just being honest.

I don’t agree they’re similar in terms of ability so I wouldn’t put them in similar price brackets.
 
Some very high valuations here. Especially for Freeman and Baldock - considering Cyrus Christie's recently gone for £2m and £3m.

It's very subjective due to the madness of the current market but it shouldn't all be based on crazy fees for the likes of Hugill and Madine. I just try to think how I might value our players if they were playing for other clubs.

Moore: 490k - £1m
Eastwood: Free - 500k
Stearman: 600k - 750k
Wright: Free - 250k
O'Connell: 300k - £7m
Basham: Free - £1.5m
Heneghan: 300k - 300k
Lafferty: Free - 250k
Stevens: Free - £1m
Baldock: 300k - £2m
Freeman: Free - £1m
Leonard: 750k - 800k
Coutts: Free - £3m
Fleck: Free - £8m
Evans: 700k - £1.5m
Lundstram: 700k - 750k
Duffy: Free - 750k
Carruthers: 300k - 400k
Holmes: 400k - 400k
Brooks: Free - £15m
Clarke: 100k - £2m
Sharp: 500k - £1m
Donaldson: 50k - 250k
Evans: 250k - 250k


That's assuming anyone who's out of contract in the summer signs a new deal.

And it's not to say I'd accept all those fees if they were offered.
 
Point taken Chali, and I respect your comments. I've long since lost the need to be 'right', it's just about voicing an opinion. I look at Madine, £6mil so I'm lead to believe, something's gone seriously wrong if that's the case. I think we all like to enjoy the idea that a player who cost next to nothing (and they all cost something, even on a 'free') could suddenly join the ranks of the Premiership. I suppose Maguire's a good case in question. Not that long ago playing alongside Collins, now being touted as a future England player. So yes, anything is possible if a team are desperate enough to chance their arm.

Maguire "now being touted as a future England player"? He's a current England player.
 
Sorry everybody but I had to look this up:

Jordon Hugill
Age 25 career games 92 as sub 52(more) goals 37.
This season Apps 27 goals 8. Just sold for 8-10 million.
Half a decent season in the second tier.
 
Maguire "now being touted as a future England player"? He's a current England player.

My error, meant to say regular England player. I've seen too many good debuts which have turned into false dawns, so a little patience where Maguire's concerned. I think he has the basic's to make a go of it, but let's see if his form is consistent. Hope so, he's as good as most Prem CH's I've seen.
 
Really liked what I saw of Lee Evans, he was our best player against Villa.

Can’t wait to find out if that’s his normal performance level, thinks he’s going to be one of our key players for years.
Me too. Cheered me up seeing him on an otherwise frustrating evening. Hope we can get back to the shape we had when Coutts was playing.
 
How many of our players are potential PL signings?

Fleck
Brooks
O Connell??
 
I don’t agree they’re similar in terms of ability so I wouldn’t put them in similar price brackets.
So if Stearman is worth only £300k you must think Wright is only worth about £50k?
 



The other factor in the JTW prices was time - the last day deals especially. Anyone wanting to sign a player was up against the clock, if the selling club is playing hardball then the buying club has to make it worth their while ie inflate the price. That doesn't take away the general silliness of transfer prices but for cases such as Madine it was probably a factor.
 
Where on earth have you pulled those figures from?
You’ve said we actually signed him for only half that valuation, half of 600k is 300k. I know you don’t need many qualifications to work for the star but maths would be one I assumed you might need?

And if you don’t think he’s as good as Stearman surely he’s worth less - which is where that figure came from.

Thanks for your time.
 
You’ve said we actually signed him for only half that valuation, half of 600k is 300k. I know you don’t need many qualifications to work for the star but maths would be one I assumed you might need?

And if you don’t think he’s as good as Stearman surely he’s worth less - which is where that figure came from.

Thanks for your time.

Medals on the table then - where did you study your Masters degree?
My two points here were that Stears cost far less than 600k and he’s better than Jake Wright. Quite how you leap from that to the 300/50k thing is beyond me :eek:
 
Based on Gary Madines move to Cardiff. These are the new player values for our squad:


Moore: £50m
Eastwood: £50m
Stearman: £50m
Wright: £50m
O'Connell: £50m
Basham: £50m
Heneghan: £50m
Lafferty: £50m
Stevens: £50m
Baldock: £50m
Freeman: £50m
Leonard: £50m
Coutts: £50m
Fleck: £50m
Evans: £50m
Lundstram: £50m
Duffy: £50m
Carruthers: £50m
Holmes: £50m
Brooks: £50m
Clarke: £50m
Sharp: £50m
Donaldson: £50m
Evans: £50m

Anything less than £49million for one of our players will not be accepted. :)
 
Medals on the table then - where did you study your Masters degree?
My two points here were that Stears cost far less than 600k and he’s better than Jake Wright. Quite how you leap from that to the 300/50k thing is beyond me :eek:
Manchester, since you're asking.

How do you not understand?
You say he was worth around half the figure banded in the OP, which would be £300k. If you rate him so much more than Wright, which he isn't THAT much better, you must only rate Wright around the 50k mark surely?

Stearman's value hasn't risen since he came here. Unless he's got younger since being here. A handful of good games doesn't add value, a full season maybe.
 
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"Stearman was almost half that and that was a bargain, for me."
 
He was signed for almost half that and that was a bargain imo, where’s my valuation? o_O
Don’t see how it’s that much of a bargain based on his past couple of seasons and him being 30.

Half a mil would’ve probably been about right and that’s where I’d put him now too.
 
I see people berating Madine but for me, looking a bit more objectively and taking the fact he’s a massive cunt out of the equation, he put in the second best forward performance I’ve seen this season against us at the Lane(Clarke v Hull 1st, obviously).

The lad clearly has some talent and whilst I wouldn’t want him playing for us I acknowledge he’ll probably do a decent job at Cardiff.
 
Don’t see how it’s that much of a bargain based on his past couple of seasons and him being 30.

Half a mil would’ve probably been about right and that’s where I’d put him now too.

If you say £500k’s about right then £350k is a bargain, especially for CBs with the Championship experience he has. Especially when you value Jake at £500k too
 
I look at it like this. If, at the end of the season, we were offered £500k for Wright, CW would probably accept it. There's no chance he'd let Stearman go for that.
 

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