Toughest test yet for Wilder as a manager?

[SwissBlade]

We’ve been found out, players all hate each other, that’s clear.

Wilder’s finished, he should’ve replaced Coutts in the summer as it was clear he was crocked. Freeman never made the step up and look at all Wilders signings: Stearman, Baldock, Ched and Clayton crocks, Stevens is at the Enda. Lundstram, Thomas and Heneghan not good enough.

Don’t even get me started on Billy Sharpe and Leon Clark...

I’d take 19th place right now.

 

[Sean Thornton]

We were slating opposition fans for not giving us credit earlier in the season for our performances, why don’t we stop being contradictory and praise how the other teams are setting up and playing against us instead of looking for bollocks at our club that just isn’t there?

We have one or two injury problems which we have to be patient and give time for Wilder and co to sort out, it won’t be sorted overnight and if anyone hasn’t already noticed January is only around the corner.

excellent post

 

[ElephantBlade]

After the UTTER festering dog turd of a season we endured the season before Wilder and then the start we had to his tenure, I'd say he's had bigger tests. I think we'll be just fine though for what it's worth. I think the Milwall result and apparent bollocking will be a rocket up the anus holes of a few.

 

[Sean Thornton]

We’ve been found out, players all hate each other, that’s clear.

Wilder’s finished, he should’ve replaced Coutts in the summer as it was clear he was crocked. Freeman never made the step up and look at all Wilders signings: Stearman, Baldock, Ched and Clayton crocks, Stevens is at the Enda. Lundstram, Thomas and Heneghan not good enough.

Don’t even get me started on Billy Sharpe and Leon Clark...

I’d take 19th place right now.

Brooks was worth £30m two months ago. Now we couldn't give him away because of Blackman.

Some players don't like Peroni. There, I've said it.

 

[SwissBlade]

Brooks was worth £30m two months ago. Now we couldn't give him away because of Blackman.

Some players don't like Peroni. There, I've said it.

I didn’t think anyone would go that far. Let’s try to keep this a sensible debate

Brooks has definitely had his head turned by playing for Wales. Ashley Williams will be tapping him up

 

[Sean Thornton]

I didn’t think anyone would go that far. Let’s try to keep this a sensible debate

Brooks has definitely had his head turned by playing for Wales. Ashley Williams will be tapping him up

It's worse. He's appointed Diego's dad and David Hirst as joint agents.

 

[SwissBlade]

It's worse. He's appointed Diego's dad and David Hirst as joint agents.

That explains why young Hirst liked Brooksy’s nutmeg on twitter

 

[Sean Thornton]

I didn’t think anyone would go that far. Let’s try to keep this a sensible debate

Split in the camp with the Moretti 3 and Estrella 2. Bit tense.

No one talks to Lafferty because he drinks real ale.

 

[Iceybabey]

Our current problem is the attitudes of the players. It's up to Wilder to stick his foot up their arses and it's up to them to react in the right way. I think Wilder was right in what he said post Millwall and maybe it's getting to some of their heads. The players need to humble themselves and get back the spirit that's served them well up until now.

 

[SwissBlade]

Split in the camp with the Moretti 3 and Estrella 2. Bit tense.

No one talks to Lafferty because he drinks real ale.

I always knew he was a wrong un

 

[sheffielder]

Our current problem is the attitudes of the players. It's up to Wilder to stick his foot up their arses and it's up to them to react in the right way. I think Wilder was right in what he said post Millwall and maybe it's getting to some of their heads. The players need to humble themselves and get back the spirit that's served them well up until now.

Not sure that is all the issue. A bad injury can impact the squad, not just because it's a teammate, but maybe it's in their head and they just are a touch off being as relentless as they were. JUst needs a good week in training. Keep the faith

 

[dublin 10 blade]

What a fucking load of shite this thread is,
I stood by Sir Chris, last year after 4 games when some on here questioned his ability or experience.
If we had listened to the pigs ,
We where fucked as La liga needed millions spending in it .
We had players nobody had heard of , and we where only a tin pot team
You get nowhere on only Pashun .
Any Blade who questions Chris or the club at this stage ( or any stage ) of this season .
Really should give there head a wobble
We have smashed the pigs away
and brought them once again to bang on about attendance figures like last night on football heavan
Seriously any knowledgeable football fan knows there’s ups and downs in every season
Let’s some just grow a pair and let
Chris sort it out ,
and no I don’t like seeing our club lose either but accept that some teams may play better than us and deserve to beat us
UTB

 

[Iceybabey]

Not sure that is all the issue. A bad injury can impact the squad, not just because it's a teammate, but maybe it's in their head and they just are a touch off being as relentless as they were. JUst needs a good week in training. Keep the faith

Of course, Coutts was a main man in the dressing room and his confidence spread to the other players. Example, watch the scenes in the tunnel before the players came out against the pigs. Coutts is captain and Wallace walks past eager to say hello to Coutts. Coutts nods back but there's a slight smirk on Coutts face as if to say "we ain't friends, tha's gonna get it today". Besides his talent Coutts brought that 'arrogance' and it gave the team confidence. But for me, since the Fulham game some of the players body language has not been encouraging. Wilder picked up on it on Satdeh and hopefully the players fix up.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Brooks was worth £30m two months ago. Now we couldn't give him away because of Blackman.

Some players don't like Peroni. There, I've said it.

Get 'em all off Peroni, tis the season for Belguim Blue.

 

[Davalon]

Some players don't like Peroni. There, I've said it.

I've heard too many are craft ale hipsters and have called the gaffer out for drinking tasteless fizzy piss. All kicked off as venues for the Christmas do can't be agreed as Wilder won't pay Brewdog prices.

 

[Tom Bott]

I think it is too early to start speculating about a new manager, maybe give CW another 5 or 10 years first.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

Why should his nose be out of joint or shall I say why should we put it out of Johny. Captain and 8 goals. With him in the side we have two real goal threats and without him one.

When we don’t win a few suddenly it’s not a team game.

Leon didn’t score at the weekend so let’s drop him for billy. Is that how this works?

I think you may have misunderstood me sheffielder.
I was simply offering one or two suggestions to DronnieBlade's statement: "Something’s gone off. No idea what. Somethings disrupted the “harmony”

I've re-read what I put and for the life of me can't see how it can be construed as dissing Billy Sharp or wanting him, Leon or any other f****r dropped come to that!
In answer to your question, one of my considerations (and it's only that, a consideration) is that IF Billy isn't 'feeling the love' at the moment and a bit discouraged, this may well impact the way he captain's the team.
I think he was, and is, integral to how we tick on the field in a captain's role, but being human his approach to/attitude during games might suffer and have a knock on effect.

 

[Rodley]

A bit of bollocks creeping in here. It’s a tough league and we will lose games, especially when injury hit. Looking for disharmony and managerial mistakes is to assume everything is in a manager’s control. It isn’t - opponents are sometimes going to make us look poor.

The trends are good and we’ve little to fret over. Be reyt.

Smashed it.

 

[Rodley]

I read things.

Body language. What’s said. How it’s said.

The perfectly harmonious squad that we are consistently told exists, the great team spirit, the “we are all in it together” mentality. All perfectly believable. On the pitch performances reflected it.

All perfectly believable, until last week.

Something’s gone off. No idea what. Somethings disrupted the “harmony”.

Hope the gaffer gets it back !

UTB

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Fret not. Wilder's got this.

 

[super_pig]

This isn’t a panic thread at all, far from it. We are in a great position and if anybody had offered us this at the start of the season we would’ve bitten their arm off.
Just can’t help but think that we are about to find out just how good a manager CW is.
Taking nothing away from him, it’s all well and good managing when your team’s winning every week. But now we have a few players out injured in key positions and picked up one point in the last 3 games. This is where he earns his money and this is where we find out just how good a manager he is in my opinion. How does he pick the players up and rebuild the confidence which must’ve taken a knock? How does he handle himself? Does he change the tactics?

Again, not panicking, just think we could be heading for a tricky spell which could potentially really test him. He’s had a lot of positives in his short management career, it’s how you come back from the negatives which defines you as a player or manager.
I can’t think of any really low points for him as manager other than the start of last season. Am I wrong?

Anyway, how do you lot see him reacting and behaving if we go on a winless run?

First thread, be gentle.

UTB

think he already proved what kind of manager he is.. this isn’t his first test by a long way..

 

[blade too long]

was it not an immense test playing bolton last season
or starting back in the championship v brentford after 6 years

think he will cope

 

[Mumbo]

I read things.

Body language. What’s said. How it’s said.

The perfectly harmonious squad that we are consistently told exists, the great team spirit, the “we are all in it together” mentality. All perfectly believable. On the pitch performances reflected it.

All perfectly believable, until last week.

Something’s gone off. No idea what. Somethings disrupted the “harmony”.

Hope the gaffer gets it back !

UTB

Holy Shit!
I’ve been on the net and it’s deffo Planet X.
I’m an Aeries.

 

[Pinchy]

I read things.

Body language. What’s said. How it’s said.

The perfectly harmonious squad that we are consistently told exists, the great team spirit, the “we are all in it together” mentality. All perfectly believable. On the pitch performances reflected it.

All perfectly believable, until last week.

Something’s gone off. No idea what. Somethings disrupted the “harmony”.

Hope the gaffer gets it back !

UTB

It’s quite simple. Despite us all putting our brave faces on, the loss of our best player, the heartbeat of the team, is a grievous loss. I knew it would be. I’m quite sure nothing but that has disrupted us, but disrupt us it has.

However, no point feeling sorry for ourselves. We battle on, starting with the Bristol Cities.

 

[Pinchy]

His biggest challenge is to get mcabe and prince to give him whatever cash he needs to take it to the next level. After this last year, we should be looking at much better players than the likes of Ryan Leonard. A year ago that was fine, but the current squad needs some experienced quality in there. If that means we need to spend 8-10 million, it has to be done. Failure to back Wilder will mean he’ll leave sooner rather than later. Failure to back wilder will mean mcabe is not ambitious and has been lying to the fans. The club has a very special manager (something Mcabe got right), like Wilder said, the club must match his ambition, if not he will call them out over it, then Mcabe will look like a right tit (again). Do whatever it takes to back CW. End of. UTB

Ah, the anti-McCabe Agenda. How I’ve missed it since it last reared it’s nonsensical, self-entitled head.

This 8-10 million that must be spent. How much can we put you down for?

 

[N20 Blade]

To some extent we are 'victims of our own success' because our great start has raised expectations too high and too quickly. What strikes me more was Wilder's response last Saturday, which was honest and refreshing because we were very poor at Millwall. For the first time, I saw players hiding and they stopped giving 100%, only marginally but it was worrying. When Wilder came over to the fans he was livid and no wonder he tore into the players. But this is what marks him apart from other 'would-be' PL managers, confirming to me that no chairman in the PL or even top wage Championship club would 'gamble' on him. He's just too straight and honest, he hasn't yet adopted the supercilious approach to man management. Remember Di Canio at Sunderland? Dared to criticise the work ethic in the club and the players turned. All these years later that club still haven't sorted it out. We are very lucky to have Wilder at the helm, he just won't stand for second best.

 

[PokerBlade]

We were slating opposition fans for not giving us credit earlier in the season for our performances, why don’t we stop being contradictory and praise how the other teams are setting up and playing against us instead of looking for bollocks at our club that just isn’t there?

We have one or two injury problems which we have to be patient and give time for Wilder and co to sort out, it won’t be sorted overnight and if anyone hasn’t already noticed January is only around the corner if it can’t be sorted indoors.

Even Birmingham, who have been doing terribly, came to the Lane with players in the side that are way out of our budget. They spent >£6m on Jota. However well we play as a team, some of those clubs are going to give us tough games this season.

The only games that have really bothered me were QPR and Millwall where we simply didn't play as well as we can. The Fulham game was a freak incident. Other than that we're playing good football, in spite of injury problems, and we're far ahead of where we expected to be.

The test for Wilder will be, if we have a couple more poor results, that it'll be tempting to go more defensive and solid. That's when managers too often abandon the attacking game under pressure to simply get points on the board. As long as we stick to our guns and maintain the kind of football that got us here, I won't complain.