Outgoing? David Brooks

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We got Fleck and Duffy for nothing.
We don't need to sell our best players to replace them with mercenaries.
Wilder will either pluck a rough diamond from somewhere or somebody will step up.
Losing Adam's and Lewin potentially made us stronger but losing Maguire and Walker set us back years.
I think we will spend in January AND keep Brooks.
I hope you're right
 

I hope you're right
To be honest mate I haven't a fucking clue. Im really down in the dumps about the Coutts injury but for the moral of the fans right now having a fearless, exciting youngster with unlimited potential is as uplifting as the football we are playing.
I completely understand your point but if we did get up, or even if we just built on this season and challenged even harder next year then Brooks is only going to become more and more valuable.
In a playing and monetary sense.
 
To be honest mate I haven't a fucking clue. Im really down in the dumps about the Coutts injury but for the moral of the fans right now having a fearless, exciting youngster with unlimited potential is as uplifting as the football we are playing.
I completely understand your point but if we did get up, or even if we just built on this season and challenged even harder next year then Brooks is only going to become more and more valuable.
In a playing and monetary sense.
I may be a tad sceptical but I'm not yet convinced Brooks is nailed on to go on to become a superstar as some think

There is plenty of promise but I've seen plenty of emerging talents fall by the way side over the years

The signs are good and I hope with all my being that the lad does but I'd settle for him as an impact sub changing games between now and the end of the season if it meant we carried on our impressive form

A lot of talk about moving him round in the team but for me at the moment he can only play just off the main striker in a kind of free role anywhere else he isn't developed or cute enough yet to have any impact in a game
 
The bad news I've heard is 3 to go in January, Brooks, fleck and one other . From a fitness coach at the club. Then came out with the caveat of depending on league position so covering himself. Not mcabes doin either apparently

Ah, that rarest of posters, an ITK rumour monger.

Now that you've identified the source of this spectacular piece of news it shouldn't take long to identify who blabbed. As for McCabe not being involved in this, why oh why would you come on here to share this news? To exploit what you perceive as a mood-swing due to one of our players being injured?

This is pointless gossip, ignore.
 
I may be a tad sceptical but I'm not yet convinced Brooks is nailed on to go on to become a superstar as some think

There is plenty of promise but I've seen plenty of emerging talents fall by the way side over the years

The signs are good and I hope with all my being that the lad does but I'd settle for him as an impact sub changing games between now and the end of the season if it meant we carried on our impressive form

A lot of talk about moving him round in the team but for me at the moment he can only play just off the main striker in a kind of free role anywhere else he isn't developed or cute enough yet to have any impact in a game
You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger fan of his right now to be honest.
That said, I believe he's nowhere near as versatile as people think.
We would completely have to change our shape if he was to be our answer to losing Coutts. I love the kid but *I am more than happy with him getting the last 20-30min every week for the time being.

*that probably contradicts everything else I've previously said.
Ah, well. We have a man with a much better footballing brain than I will never have to sort that one out for us.
 
for me its a difficult one because we need to keep brooks he 1 of the most promising talents currently playing in england & he is a matchwinner on his own as proved many times this season. we dont want him on the scrapheap. like many youngsters have done going to Chelsea man city & liverpool

we all know that the money is out of control in the premier league. didnt relegated Sunderland get same or more money over 100+ million that leicester got for winning the league previous season but this is the Big BUT if they offer 20m i wouldnt blame the club whatsoever. because outside of current top 6. i think any team if they got 20m offer then they would accept so if likes Southampton or Burnley or other 12 sides look at micheal keane Burnley > Everton. how does a new promoted league 1 side reject that amount
 
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My guess he will do a dele Ali, sign for a Pl and be loaned to us for the rest of this season and maybe next depending where we are.

Wake up and smell the coffee, with our form it is inevitable this will happen, the big question is will the club resist, if not reinvest, if not sell up?

Unless there is an announcement about investment before the JTW (not the day after the window closes) I think it will be same old with those 4 generating £25-30million and CW (assuming he's still here) getting £3-4million and being expected to find more bargain players and turn them into the equivillant of a footballing ATM whilst winning promotion. Fax, flue and we can't stop them leaving (ask Leonard) will be rolled out again.

The owner culture is the only thing that might not have moved on with the manager, players and fans? Worried :mad:
 
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My guess he will do a dele Ali, sign for a Pl and be loaned to us for the rest of this season and maybe next depending where we are.

Wake up and smell the coffee, with our form it is inevitable this will happen, the big question is will the club resist, if not reinvest, if not sell up?

Unless there is an announcement about investment before the JTW (not the day after the window closes) I think it will be same old with those 4 generating £25-30million and CW (assuming he's still here) getting £3-4million and being expected to find more bargain players and turn them into the equivillant of a footballing ATM whilst winning promotion. Fax, flue and we can't stop them leaving (ask Leonard) will be rolled out again.

The owner culture is the only thing that might not have moved on with the manager, players and fans? Worried :mad:
I'll say it. What a load of bollocks. And you edited it too.
 
You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger fan of his right now to be honest.
That said, I believe he's nowhere near as versatile as people think.
We would completely have to change our shape if he was to be our answer to losing Coutts. I love the kid but *I am more than happy with him getting the last 20-30min every week for the time being.

*that probably contradicts everything else I've previously said.
Ah, well. We have a man with a much better footballing brain than I will never have to sort that one out for us.

I know what you mean. I was talking to some pigs on Friday who were raving about Brooks. I had to explain that he doesn't even get in our team. They asked who's keeping him out - Duffy... "Mark Duffy!!" They exclaimed before laughing... They thought I was joking and I had to explain that he's started 4 league games... just 4 !! I couldn't help a quick dig though to say he only starts against poor opposition :D
 
So his 'value' has increased around £5-10M since he signed an extension to his contract, scored at Leeds and made his debut for Wales. Blimey, we'll be looking at a world record fee if we hang on 'til the Summer. Madness, utter madness for someone who has taken part in around 20 professional games !

But, if that's what it is then so be it, we have to make the most we can of the situation if he decides he wants to go. I'm still not convinced at this stage he will want to go, and our league position will only back that up if we keep up there.
 
Here we go again!! The blokes has signed a new contract, but still we are supposed to be selling him! Why would anyone be sold?
 
Every thread is about PANIC!!!!! EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!
 
I suppose it is the legacy of various boards' and chairmen selling the family silver for decade after decade, but we now have a situation where we have one of the most promising talents outside of the top flight, and there are posters on here positively salivating at the prospect of receiving £20m for Brooks.

It is just the mentality that many of our fans have, and unfortunately, it has been drilled into them over the decades because we are so used to it.

It's ok, they say. You can sell him for £20m and buy your way to promotion. Simple as that. Easy. How many times have we sold our real assets for money and replaced them with something better? Hardly ever.

The guy has a 4.5 year contract, we are in a position to demand serious money for him. So why not keep him, and build team around him, and then see what he can really do in August 2018 if we reach the so called promised land?
 

The bad news I've heard is 3 to go in January, Brooks, fleck and one other . From a fitness coach at the club. Then came out with the caveat of depending on league position so covering himself. Not mcabes doin either apparently

Other one was Coutts. This has been scuppered by Friday night so JOC, Bash and Baldock are going instead. Wilder's going to leave as a result and has a clause he can take any 3 players for £750k when he goes (he favours Duffy, Stevens and Sharp but Knilly prefers Clarke to Sharp as he can't stand Billy).
There's been some problems with the severance payments that McCabe promised Adkins so he's going to be back Jan 2nd as he'll sue us if he isn't reinstated.
It's a right mess at the moment.
 
Ah, that rarest of posters, an ITK rumour monger.

Now that you've identified the source of this spectacular piece of news it shouldn't take long to identify who blabbed. As for McCabe not being involved in this, why oh why would you come on here to share this news? To exploit what you perceive as a mood-swing due to one of our players being injured?

This is pointless gossip, ignore.
Don't shoot the messanger . I never said it was true or that I believe it. It's but a rumour I've heard.this is the rumour section innit. And I added the source because everyone always complains, ooh don't post if you don't say the source. Knobs
 
Don't shoot the messanger . I never said it was true or that I believe it. It's but a rumour I've heard.this is the rumour section innit. And I added the source because everyone always complains, ooh don't post if you don't say the source. Knobs

I've no complaint with how you've passed on a message, but I found this particular message to be based on little more than hollow tittle tattle. I wasn't shooting you, the messenger, but the content is baloney.
 
My brother came in today after talking with someone who knows a physio at the club. Says we're already planning how to spend it.

Interesting how the physios know our transfer business a month before the window opens and at the exact same time that a Sunday paper prints a story which is essentially "good player is good so Liverpool probably want him right?".

Absolute bollocks for my money. Wilder is in charge and if he wants to sell he will but because we don't want him, not because of McCabe's big dogs or anything and at the moment we do want him and he wants to be here.

Sunday papers are about as prescient as used bog roll. They don't have the same editorial standards as the weekday tabloids and they hardly have any as it is.
 
Don't shoot the messanger . I never said it was true or that I believe it. It's but a rumour I've heard.this is the rumour section innit. And I added the source because everyone always complains, ooh don't post if you don't say the source. Knobs

To be fair though, unless I’ve missed it, you haven’t actually provided the source.
 
I've no complaint with how you've passed on a message, but I found this particular message to be based on little more than hollow tittle tattle. I wasn't shooting you, the messenger, but the content is baloney.
Cheers IIYB
I'm certainly praying it is . I thought I ought to pass it on all the same. Just wonder why someone in that position would be so loose lipped, it's not like they're a little piggy trying to stir it
To be fair though, unless I’ve missed it, you haven’t actually provided the source.
A fitness coach, as I said, although my colleague didn't say his name
 
Cheers IIYB
I'm certainly praying it is . I thought I ought to pass it on all the same. Just wonder why someone in that position would be so loose lipped, it's not like they're a little piggy trying to stir it

A fitness coach, as I said, although my colleague didn't say his name


My Dad's mate insists he knows someone inside the club and some of the rumours he comes up with are ridiculous, usually some kind of conspiracy about how McCabe made sure we were relegated from the premier league or that players dont get on and want out. It's all clearly attention seeking bollocks and I don't believe a word of it. If you hear something from a secondary or tertiary source and if it sounds ridiculous considering the circumstance, you can't verify it, you don't know if the person who told you it can, it's probably a load of shit. Also, why would a fitness coach know the plans for January transfer window? And if players were unsettle don't you think we'd have some kind of indication?
 
I don’t think we will sell Brooks or any other players in jtw. Furthermore what would Wilder do with £20 mill pounds anyway? Go and buy a £10 mill player (or 2) on £30-50,000 a week. Don’t think so as that would blow a massive hole in the wage structure and more than likely destroy the current team spirit and dressing room togetherness. I don’t think he would want that much money at 5his stage.

The Coutts injury does change the picture significantly. IMO we definitely need to get a player who can do his job. If Lunny can step up great (though realistically he is not going to be as good as Couttsy) but even if he does step up we still need cover in CM.
 
My Dad's mate insists he knows someone inside the club and some of the rumours he comes up with are ridiculous, usually some kind of conspiracy about how McCabe made sure we were relegated from the premier league or that players dont get on and want out. It's all clearly attention seeking bollocks and I don't believe a word of it. If you hear something from a secondary or tertiary source and if it sounds ridiculous considering the circumstance, you can't verify it, you don't know if the person who told you it can, it's probably a load of shit. Also, why would a fitness coach know the plans for January transfer window? And if players were unsettle don't you think we'd have some kind of indication?
My thoughts exactly. The only thing I can come up with is are they hearing players talk while receiving treatment or in the gym, but probably not. They want to seem bigger than they are
 
The players wouldn't be included in the transfer strategy though would they ?

I mean the fucking manager isn't over in South Barnsley
 
Brooks may eventually go. So much depends on his consistency and his ability to impress both Wilder and other managers. Given the nature of modern football, should DB continue down this current stream of class, who knows what his worth or destination might be? Should the point arrive when we decide to sell Brooks we must ensure that there's a sell-on clause of at least 15-20%. For the moment I think we have plenty of wriggle room to allow ourselves time and space not to be concerned with this. Of course, if a mega offer arrived as Wilder's desk then it would be considered. Every player has a price, in Brooks' case let's hope his stock rise's and we get a few years of watching him develop in a Blade's shirt. He's only 20, so another two, possibly 4 years, isn't beyond the realm of possibility. By which time we should be in the Premiership, and Brooks will be an established first-team player for the Blades.

The fact that L'pool and Spurs are reportedly considering offers of £20 million may only be the first of many increases in Brooks' valuation. Holding onto our best players will also help attract other quality players. If there's one thing we've seen, Wilder is a good judge of a player, so it looks like win-win regardless of what happens in future.
 
remember

David Brooks does not want to leave Sufc
Chris Wilder does not want to sell him
The Prince has already pledged money in the January window.
One piece of the jig saw missing
 

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