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BushBlade said:
He's out of reach for the pigs. If it wasn't West Ham it would have been West Brom or Stoke when they fancy a change. Or Swansea, or.... He's not going to drop into the championship unless he is on his arse.
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True, more wishful thinking on my part.
 
dannysufc_ said:
Moyes in at West Ham after Bilic is sacked.

This stuff honestly just writes itself.
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I'm fine with it. always liked Bilic, I can go back to liking him now he's left that shower of Thundercunts.
 
BushBlade said:
Has he actually been appointed? He's a long term builder and planner whose tenure at Everton was based on excellent scouting and recruitment. He's not really much of an impact manager. He'll have to hope that the players respond on the basis that he's not Bilic and he can get off to a decent start before overhauling the club but my gut feeling is that it will be Sunderland repeated.
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Might have to do a little dance if they do a Sunderland.
 
Some of the appointments and sackings that take place by boards of directors makes me seriously wonder if the season ticket holders should be given a vote and the successful candidates in order be approached! I mean, as much as I don't like West Ham, are they seriously about to appoint David Moyes!? Who's next in the short list, Steve McClaren and then Ronald McDonald!?

Everton are just desperate to give David Unsworth game after game so he can hopefully win a few and then appoint him - because he's an Evertonian - like that really matters!? Its a bonus don't get me wrong, but at the end of the day, a successful record is what matters. Foe me the managers who should be moving up the pecking order are Dean Smith at Brentford - does a great job on a fairly average budget, plays good football and gets results, Paul Hurst at Shrewsbury has done consistently well and Paul Cook always seems to do well, and plays good football. I hear Sheffield United have a good manager but can't remember hid name now?!
 
Booker4 said:
Some of the appointments and sackings that take place by boards of directors makes me seriously wonder if the season ticket holders should be given a vote and the successful candidates in order be approached! I mean, as much as I don't like West Ham, are they seriously about to appoint David Moyes!? Who's next in the short list, Steve McClaren and then Ronald McDonald!?

Everton are just desperate to give David Unsworth game after game so he can hopefully win a few and then appoint him - because he's an Evertonian - like that really matters!? Its a bonus don't get me wrong, but at the end of the day, a successful record is what matters. Foe me the managers who should be moving up the pecking order are Dean Smith at Brentford - does a great job on a fairly average budget, plays good football and gets results, Paul Hurst at Shrewsbury has done consistently well and Paul Cook always seems to do well, and plays good football. I hear Sheffield United have a good manager but can't remember hid name now?!
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If supporters got a vote then Clough may still have been in charge of us...
 
BushBlade said:
Shit, I didn't answer the phone this morning thinking it was EDF chasing a bill. I bet it was Sunderland...
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Your contract has been taken over by Crab Energy (a division of Crab Industries). We don't ring when a bill is due, just make sure there is a parking space for one of these and we'll take care of the rest..............................

 
BushBlade said:
If supporters got a vote then Clough may still have been in charge of us...
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Not from me he wouldn't have! But we then appointed Adkins and that worked out terribly! I'm not saying fans should decide but with some of the appointments, you wonder if a board knows any better! I've just read that Ally McCoist is a leading contender for the Sunderland job!? Wow, hope not for their sake! They've just sacked the best man for the job!
 
Moyes is the epitome of dour, boring, and uninspiring managers and possibly the worst example i think i've seen in football. How he continues to get work based on a half decent few seasons with Everton i'll never know. He's failed everywhere else he's been since.

West Ham are most welcome to him if the rumours are true.
 



Maybe they should wait for Pulis to get the boot from West Brom as they're currently struggling near the foot of the Premier League with crisis looming................. so they can be seen to be bringing a manager in with a proven track record of going in to crisis clubs and getting them away from the foot of the Premier League.





It's all a bit bloody bonkers down there.
 
tomtheblade said:
Moyes is the epitome of dour, boring, and uninspiring managers and possibly the worst example i think i've seen in football. How he continues to get work based on a half decent few seasons with Everton i'll never know. He's failed everywhere else he's been since.

West Ham are most welcome to him if the rumours are true.
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Same with Schteve McLaren.
 
DaveBassettsgoneonholiday said:
Maybe they should wait for Pulis to get the boot from West Brom as they're currently struggling near the foot of the Premier League with crisis looming................. so they can be seen to be bringing a manager in with a proven track record of going in to crisis clubs and getting them away from the foot of the Premier League.





It's all a bit bloody bonkers down there.
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Don't want Pulis to go there, he might keep them up.
 
UnitedBlade said:
Bournemouth spent an absolute fortune to get promoted from L1. How they didn’t face SCMP sanctions is beyond me, they must have exceeded the allowed 65% salary threshold. It’s not always about fees, it’s wages.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27224806
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2 things about that, first the article doesn't give a breakdown as to where the money was spent so some could have been an infrastructure spend (I don't know just saying not enough info).
Secondly Sheffield United have posted losses around that figure (underwritten by the owner and offset by player sales) most years since leaving the Premiership, I'm sure the resident accountants can correct me if I'm wrong in this.
There are some figures here: http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/sheffield-united-blades-rediscovering.html
 
I should coco said:
If Sunderland hadn't sacked him, that's where he would be.

Cocked up at Manyoo, Real Sociedad and Sunderland.

What does he have to do to get found out?
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Whilst you're correct, you could argue that 'global stars' Louis Van Gaaland Mourinho have also fucked up at Manure. With 10x the budget Moyes had.

He was never going to do anything at Sociedad, but at least he gave it a go.

Sunderland have been on a downward spiral for 2/3 seasons now. 'Stars' like Mourinho wouldn't have kept them up.
 
8lade said:
2 things about that, first the article doesn't give a breakdown as to where the money was spent so some could have been an infrastructure spend (I don't know just saying not enough info).
Secondly Sheffield United have posted losses around that figure (underwritten by the owner and offset by player sales) most years since leaving the Premiership, I'm sure the resident accountants can correct me if I'm wrong in this.
There are some figures here: http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/sheffield-united-blades-rediscovering.html
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United did post big losses as they tried to manage the costs of relegation.

I’ve looked at both sets of accounts, the pertinent fact of that season was Bournemouth’s wages were £11M, £3.5M higher than United’s on 2/3rds of the turnover. The owner significantly bankrolled a promotion.
 
I should coco said:
If Sunderland hadn't sacked him, that's where he would be.

Cocked up at Manyoo, Real Sociedad and Sunderland.

What does he have to do to get found out?
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Found out as what? A mid table PL manager who's not good enough to manage Man U, adapt to Spain or deal with a car crash club like Sunderland? Or a serial bad decision maker when it comes to the jobs he takes?

He's certainly the latter and West Ham will probably finish his top level career.
 
8lade said:
Eddie Howe: 3 promotions, including 1 as champions (Championship) all with the mighty Bournemouth who are now enjoying their third year in the top flight..
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if we go up he will have won 3 promotions 2 as champions already , maybe a third ?

will be the first ever manager to win 3 promotions in 3 seasons at league level
level 4 to 1 in 3 seasons .... wow
 
UnitedBlade said:
United did post big losses as they tried to manage the costs of relegation.

I’ve looked at both sets of accounts, the pertinent fact of that season was Bournemouth’s wages were £11M, £3.5M higher than United’s on 2/3rds of the turnover. The owner significantly bankrolled a promotion.
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Fair enough but I'm sure as we all know that money is an aide in creating a good team, there are many more factors generally controlled by the manager which have the final say on promotion. Also I think it's misleading to say that United were managing the cost of relegation as buying players such as Beattie, Henderson and Evans for example would not come cheap either in fees or wages. And there was uproar on this board over the suggested wages of other players.
 
blade too long said:
if we go up he will have won 3 promotions 2 as champions already , maybe a third ?

will be the first ever manager to win 3 promotions in 3 seasons at league level
level 4 to 1 in 3 seasons .... wow
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Wilder's managerial performance is already impressive I'm not disputing that, just that when people say he's the best English manager I threw another couple of names into the discussion but a lot of people are disputing Howe as his achievements were assisted with financial backing.
 



8lade said:
Wilder's managerial performance is already impressive I'm not disputing that, just that when people say he's the best English manager I threw another couple of names into the discussion but a lot of people are disputing Howe as his achievements were assisted with financial backing.
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its always subjective as we never 100 per cent know what wages players are on , as always money isnt everything but if you can pay player 30 k aweek your going to get better players and a better record than players on under 10 k a week

Howes career was luckier in the sense he started at an ambitious league club
Wilder has done the arduous starting in non league , no fault of his own not enough jobs available

but its like show business , some get breaks and instant star billing some have to work working mens clubs
 
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