Incoming? Darragh Lenihan

[itsinyerblood]

Would Brayford go to Blackburn? Would be nice if he fancied it.

I've a feeling that we won't get Lenihan, Brayford won't be sold and that he will end up playing quite a few games for us.

What squad number would Brayford have Scooter, 69?

 

[TONY_TONY_AGANA]

Would Brayford go to Blackburn? Would be nice if he fancied it.

I've a feeling that we won't get Lenihan, Brayford won't be sold and that he will end up playing quite a few games for us.

If Tony Mowbray was to wear a Nigel Clough mask during negotiations, then yes, he would sign for them. Sadly for us there are no Nigel Clough masks left as Brayford bought them all.

 

[Pinchy]

Flawed response number one.

A market can't be determined by a single product...that in itself is contradictory.

Why you continue to get 'computer football manager' and 'cap doffing' into most of your responses is beyond me. Are you normal?

A great deal is beyond you, I'm afraid. You would do well to avoid knee-jerk responses but rather listen and learn to those who know a bit more than you do.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

A great deal is beyond you, I'm afraid. You would do well to avoid knee-jerk responses but rather listen and learn to those who know a bit more than you do.

Come on, rather than your usual stock derogatory response, why not actually add some substance? I think I know why you can't.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Insecurity is a terrible attribute

 

[stringer]

Yes agree. I hope we go back with a fourth offer today and get it sorted. I think we should do a swop deal, no cash involved, for Brayford. That would be lovely?

With Blackburn making redundancies of their staff, I imagine taking on Brayford's wages after relegation isn't high on their priority list.

 

[Pinchy]

Come on, rather than your usual stock derogatory response, why not actually add some substance? I think I know why you can't.

I've tried to explain to you at some length. You have neither listened nor learned. Your understanding of football, gleaned from a children's game, is matched only by your woeful learning in theoretical economics and failure to grasp real world common sense. The latter is unavailable online I'm afraid.

You have yet to explain your previous silly response, but I'm beginning to give up on that. I'm off now to explain to my car that it has no market value.

 

[Houso]

Aside from anything there's a weird assumption that clubs pluck a figure out of thin air and send it over to the player's club. There will have been informal discussions with player representatives and scouts before putting a bid in. Offers are very much informed and not guesswork.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

I've tried to explain to you at some length. You have neither listened nor learned. Your understanding of football, gleaned from a children's game, is matched only by your woeful learning in theoretical economics and failure to grasp real world common sense. The latter is unavailable online I'm afraid.

You have yet to explain your previous silly response, but I'm beginning to give up on that. I'm off now to explain to my car that it has no market value.

Again more waffle and unsubstantiated guff.

You've just contradicted yourself yet again. A car has a market value against other fekkin cars you numpty. Likewise a player has a market value based on numerous attributes....include other bloody players.

Are you really this dumb or are you extremely good at pretending to be?

 

[Esablade]

I've a feeling that we won't get Lenihan,

I think we've a few bids left in us before this one's done....

UTB!

 

[Chief_Froley]

I've tried to explain to you at some length. You have neither listened nor learned. Your understanding of football, gleaned from a children's game, is matched only by your woeful learning in theoretical economics and failure to grasp real world common sense. The latter is unavailable online I'm afraid.

You have yet to explain your previous silly response, but I'm beginning to give up on that. I'm off now to explain to my car that it has no market value.

Games aren't so bad. On my last Football Manager save Billy retired and Carruthers refused a new contract so I replaced them with Messi and Welbeck both on frees.

I dare you to look me in the eye and say that isn't an accurate representation of real life.

 

[Jon Bon II]

Guys, we need more bods on the Leonard thread, otherwise we'll all be eaten alive by the zombie Morsey thread. C'mon hurry.....

 

[Chief_Froley]

Guys, we need more bods on the Leonard thread, otherwise we'll all be eaten alive by the zombie Morsey thread. C'mon hurry.....

I'm on my way

 

[1danewhitehouse]

What disturbs me about this is that we don't seem to have any clue at to what the going rate for players actually is. It says that we initially bid £500k for this bloke. Then we come back with a bit over that. And now we've gone back with almost triple the original offer - and it's still a no. That's not usually how negotiations work. The first offer is usually on the low side, the second offer is usually "in the right sort of ball park" and the third offer is usually, "too good to turn down". But not with us, it seems. And then you look at the fiasco with Holmes and Leonard and you have to question if the problem is at our end by making unrealistic offers?

Lenihan is a player who has played for the past couple of seasons at Championship level. He's an U21 International and he's highly rated by their fans and considered to be a great prospect. If we want to sign quality players like this we will have to be prepared to pay the going rate. And I don't think we've actually understood what the going rate is for such players - or we've understood it but can't afford it.

Maybe it’s because our board have, for the last 6 years believed that as a League 1 club, you have no option but to accept a bid for a player as soon as it becomes common knowledge that a championship club is interested. Perhaps they’re now finding out that’s not the case and clubs are indeed allowed to reject offers.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Makes you wonder how we managed to sign Moore, Baldock, Lafferty, Stearman, Carruthers, Lundstram, Thomas, Hanson, Clarke, Lavery and Evans.

Moore, Lafferty, Stearman & Lavery were deemed surplus to requirements by the selling club so easier to do a deal. Bury couldn’t afford to keep paying Clarke’s wages.

I think Baldock, Lundstram, Carruthers, Thomas and Hanson were in the last year of their contract which puts more pressure on the selling clubs.

That’s not a criticism of the club by the way. It’s astute from Wilder to sign players that you can get for a good price if you believe they are going to be good enough. O’Connell was another excellent example of that. Get’s harder to do that the higher you go up the leagues though.

 

[Pinchy]

Again more waffle and unsubstantiated guff.

You've just contradicted yourself yet again. A car has a market value against other fekkin cars you numpty. Likewise a player has a market value based on numerous attributes....include other bloody players.

Are you really this dumb or are you extremely good at pretending to be?

You're still evading the issue and still waffling.

You would be well advised to pick arguments you can win. You're the latest in a long line and and it's not even a podium finish based on your performance so far.

 

[B14Nco]

Again more waffle and unsubstantiated guff.

You've just contradicted yourself yet again. A car has a market value against other fekkin cars you numpty. Likewise a player has a market value based on numerous attributes....include other bloody players.

Are you really this dumb or are you extremely good at pretending to be?

If I wanteded Pinchys pink convertible fiat 500 but nobody else wanted it. I wouldn't need to pay as much as I might if lots of people wanted that car.

Or it was winter.

Or it was a different colour.

The market is Cars. The rate is for the individual product. (With lots of vairiables that make it unique, and therefore only worth what people desiring those attributes want, need and are willing to pay - its rate within the market).

There is no market rate for 'cars'. It's too wide reaching.
There is a market rate for a soiled pink convertible fiat 500 hundred.

I've only put this down as I was getting lost myself so don't worry I feel like I've waisted my life as much as you will have reading this.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

Moore, Lafferty, Stearman & Lavery were deemed surplus to requirements by the selling club so easier to do a deal. Bury couldn’t afford to keep paying Clarke’s wages.

I think Baldock, Lundstram, Carruthers, Thomas and Hanson were in the last year of their contract which puts more pressure on the selling clubs.

That’s not a criticism of the club by the way. It’s astute from Wilder to sign players that you can get for a good price if you believe they are going to be good enough. O’Connell was another excellent example of that. Get’s harder to do that the higher you go up the leagues though.

There was me thinking that Wilder is a good manager, but (after reading this) his many cash signings have been shown to be easy. Perhaps Tufty should try and contact some of the forum's transfer negotiating experts in future

 

[Grappler]

If I wanted Pinchys pink convertible fiat 500 but nobody else wanted it. I wouldn't need to pay as much as I might if lots of people wanted that car.

Or it was winter.

Or it was a different colour.

The market is Cars. The rate is for the individual product. (With lots of vairiables that make it unique, and therefore only worth what people desiring those attributes want, need and are willing to pay - its rate within the market).

There is no market rate for 'cars'. It's too wide reaching.
There is a market rate for a soiled pink convertible fiat 500 hundred.

I've only put this down as I was getting lost myself so don't worry I feel like I've waisted my life as much as you will have reading this.

Wouldn't mind taking a look myself, how much does he want for it?

 

[Pinchy]

If I wanteded Pinchys pink convertible fiat 500 but nobody else wanted it. I wouldn't need to pay as much as I might if lots of people wanted that car.

Or it was winter.

Or it was a different colour.

The market is Cars. The rate is for the individual product. (With lots of vairiables that make it unique, and therefore only worth what people desiring those attributes want, need and are willing to pay - its rate within the market).

There is no market rate for 'cars'. It's too wide reaching.
There is a market rate for a soiled pink convertible fiat 500 hundred.

I've only put this down as I was getting lost myself so don't worry I feel like I've waisted my life as much as you will have reading this.

Wouldn't mind taking a look myself, how much does he want for it?

Well, now we have a market, or so I thought, but our resident Maynard Keynes tells me there can be no market value for a single product so I really can't help you.

This new-fangled economic model is a bit of a bugger. I was going to suggest the two of you made competing offers and we'd take it from there but it can't be done apparently unless I'm selling more than one.

You'll just have to pay whatever price I want for it. I know a second hand Roller went for £100,000 the other day so that would be a start I think.

The capitalist system is unravelling before our very eyes and all because of Sheffield Fucking United.

Anywhere here it is. Just send me every penny you've got.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

You're still evading the issue and still waffling.

You would be well advised to pick arguments you can win. You're the latest in a long line and and it's not even a podium finish based on your performance so far.

Pinchy, you're even running out of retorts now, you've started to use mine.

Still, I'm yet to hear any explanations or substance to your incessant bullshit.

 

[BushBlade]

Maybe it’s because our board have, for the last 6 years believed that as a League 1 club, you have no option but to accept a bid for a player as soon as it becomes common knowledge that a championship club is interested. Perhaps they’re now finding out that’s not the case and clubs are indeed allowed to reject offers.

We've rejected offers. I heard we turned down an offer from Brighton for Flynn (hence the new contract) during Clough's days. We wouldn't have taken £1.5m for Maguire.

We're low balling clubs at the moment, trying to get players on the cheap. Because there's still plenty of time before the window closes.
Let's see how keen the clubs are to keep their players and keep paying their wages when there's a couple of days left. Of course, a lot will depend on how much the players want to join us.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

If I wanteded Pinchys pink convertible fiat 500 but nobody else wanted it. I wouldn't need to pay as much as I might if lots of people wanted that car.

Or it was winter.

Or it was a different colour.

The market is Cars. The rate is for the individual product. (With lots of vairiables that make it unique, and therefore only worth what people desiring those attributes want, need and are willing to pay - its rate within the market).

There is no market rate for 'cars'. It's too wide reaching.
There is a market rate for a soiled pink convertible fiat 500 hundred.

I've only put this down as I was getting lost myself so don't worry I feel like I've waisted my life as much as you will have reading this.

But you're paying for uniqueness, we're being quoted for a league one defender.

Put it this way, do you think they pluck the number out of the sky, or do they look what other players are going for and base their valuation on that?

How many times do you hear 'x player went for ..., he's worth at least 5m more'. That's putting a valuation based on the market of 'players'.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Put in this way Pinchy, put your mouth to the test.... let's actually see what an oracle of life you really are? Anyone of any standing in this world has a linked-in profile.

Care to trade?!

 

[LoughboroBlade]

We've rejected offers. I heard we turned down an offer from Brighton for Flynn (hence the new contract) during Clough's days.

I'd forgotten about that. Up there with Gareth Taylor as one of the worst examples in the club's history of not accepting a bid.

 

[dazzlingblade]

Games aren't so bad. On my last Football Manager save Billy retired and Carruthers refused a new contract so I replaced them with Messi and Welbeck both on frees.

I dare you to look me in the eye and say that isn't an accurate representation of real life.

utter bullshit, nothing like real life, no way samir would reject a contract

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Put in this way Pinchy, put your mouth to the test.... let's actually see what an oracle of life you really are? Anyone of any standing in this world has a linked-in profile.

Care to trade?!

Bleeding hell I've seen some bollocks written in some of those! Greatest works of fiction since Moby Dick a few I've read.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Bleeding hell I've seen some bollocks written in some of those! Greatest works of fiction since Moby Dick a few I've read.

I'm probably naive, but in my field of work it's a necessity for gaining contracts.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I'm probably naive, but in my field of work it's a necessity for gaining contracts.

I'm not saying they don't have value, especially for contract working, but the ones I've read (that I know, of course) are as fabricated as the old CV was.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

I'm not saying they don't have value, especially for contract working, but the ones I've read (that I know, of course) are as fabricated as the old CV was.

I've had mine sent to 'consultancies', only to find out they use it as a template for their 'offshore resources'.