Kevin McCabe on David Brooks

[Sean Thornton]

I'd argue they got it wrong with DDG. They should have listened to Clough and bombed him out instead of giving him another contract under Adkins. Complete waste of money.

All those experts on here will have put doubt into Kevs mind.......

 

[Sean Thornton]

I do grow weary of Kevin's submissive attitude towards Premier League clubs. I'm as much of a realist as anyone when it comes to being able to keep good players. It's inevitable that if they do well enough, they will move on but I can't abide this "how can we stop them" bollocks.

If they're under contract we can do as we wish. No one should stop a player from moving on to bigger things provided the club gets the going rate for him. Our willingness to take the first offer at £1m or above just invites PL clubs to come and take them easily.

Here's a tip for your colleagues Kevin.....if a club wants our best players (young or otherwise) then make them pay the market rate. The fees we got for Ramsdale, Calvert-Lewin and Adams were a joke.

Brooks will leave, no doubt but he's an asset to the football club. Given his reputation and undoubted potential, he's worth minimum £8m in the current market. If Everton want him, tell them that's the price!

Is that the same submissive attitude that made him take on West Ham and the football authorities?

 

[Esablade]

And for anyone attending, you'll get far more out of McCabe by listening to him rather than telling him what a cunt he is, accusing him of taking money out of the club, or, with no expertise and experience of running a loss making football club, how he should run his business.

If it was all so easy, the extremely wealthy would have bought up every single football club going.

People mention Adams and DCL but forget to mention their hype over DDG and how we should award him with a huge contract. Look at how that turned out. He was the best thing since sliced bread as well. Luckily the club got that one right when so many on here got it very wrong.

Forum talk is cheap and has no financial implications whatsoever.

You'd think Sheffield United were the only 'loss making' club in the four league's...

 

[Ferenc Blade]

And for anyone attending, you'll get far more out of McCabe by listening to him rather than telling him what a cunt he is, accusing him of taking money out of the club, or, with no expertise and experience of running a loss making football club, how he should run his business.

If it was all so easy, the extremely wealthy would have bought up every single football club going.

People mention Adams and DCL but forget to mention their hype over DDG and how we should award him with a huge contract. Look at how that turned out. He was the best thing since sliced bread as well. Luckily the club got that one right when so many on here got it very wrong.

Forum talk is cheap and has no financial implications whatsoever.

Please stop being sensible on here, it scares me!!

 

[Sean Thornton]

This close season when we have 2 Multi Millionaires the GCI aint appearing, if we were in the PL McCabe would have trouble spending the money.

Udders have done £40million so far this close Season, Leicester have done £20million with another £40million on the Table for Sigurdson from Swansea

McCabe would need oxygen to to read those numbers, he just aint gonna do it, its not in his nature

Robson season?

 

[Kev Gee]

Yes. When the footballing big dogs of bournmouth and stoke come calling you just have to roll over like a little puppy.

 

[Sean Thornton]

That's less than DCL then. I'm not surprised they turned it down.

Maybe a bigger bid to come but he's highly rated as well. Just one bid of a million. Not five or seven. One.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Yes. When the footballing big dogs of bournmouth and stoke come calling you just have to roll over like a little puppy.

Financially, they are big dogs compared to us. Like it or not that's the reality.

 

[Bladesway]

“In many ways [promotion has eased pressure of selling youngsters]. But the truth is until you are back in the Premier League, if a Premier League club comes along and wants one of your players... if someone can give me the answer of how you keep them. I think most supporters realise that our desire is not to sell a David Brooks - obviously a youngster with immense talent - or a Dominic Calvert-Lewin. But when the big dog comes knocking...”

www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-united/danny-hall-sheffield-united-s-david-brooks-is-a-young-man-of-few-words-but-immense-potential-1-8658586

Oh fuck, here we go again.

 

[DronnieBlade]

The moment the player says, that is too good an offer (financially) to turn down, that is that. He is off.

Wether its Ronaldo to RM or Brooks to wherever. Thats the reality.

The best the selling club can do is maximise the sale price.

McCabe isn't saying anything that a rational person is not already aware of.

If Everton or whoever meets the clubs valuation (which I would imagine to be around £2m), and the player agrees personal terms, its done. Move on.

Dont hate the chairman. All he is trying to do is run a football club against a backdrop of balancing the books, the club running at a trading loss, and Great White Sharks devouring the seals !

UTB

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Is that the same submissive attitude that made him take on West Ham and the football authorities?

No, which makes you wonder why the softer attitude towards something far less complex.....

 

[I should coco]

No, which makes you wonder why the softer attitude towards something far less complex....

He didn't build up his multi million pound property empire by selling off all his best sites.

Then again, the sites didn't have pushy parents, agents or get sunburn to stop them being developed. KM is not green nor stupid, but in this industry the power lies very much with the player and the clubs at the top of the tree.

 

[Sean Thornton]

No, which makes you wonder why the softer attitude towards something far less complex.....

Far less complex yet we know nothing of the details. We just assume.

 

[Esablade]

No, which makes you wonder why the softer attitude towards something far less complex.....

I think it comes down to McCabe not being 'a football man'..as he said in an interview recently, he doesn't really look at other clubs and their spending (which was an odd thing to say for a businessman), just concentrates on sorting his budget out and how much he want's to sub the club by.

I think that's possibly why, in the past, when these kind of bids have come in he's quite "philosophical"...'million or so quid for some kid who's barely kicked ball, yes please'.

 

[BushBlade]

I think it comes down to McCabe not being 'a football man'..as he said in an interview recently, he doesn't really look at other clubs and their spending (which was an odd thing to say for a businessman), just concentrates on sorting his budget out and how much he want's to sub the club by.

I think that's possibly why, in the past, when these kind of bids have come in he's quite "philosophical"...'million or so quid for some kid who's barely kicked ball, yes please'.

So do you think when he gets a bid for a player, he goes to the manager and says 'how much is Fat Harry worth?', the manager says '£5m' and he thinks 'oh fuck it, I'll let him go for £2.5m, it's only money, can't take it with me, lol'.

 

[Dellas Cowboys]

So Sheffield Telegraph article today mentions Brooks being subject of a £1.8m bid from Everton. I've read this thread, but couldn't see mention of it. Apologies if I am repeating old news.

 

[Kev Gee]

Financially, they are big dogs compared to us. Like it or not that's the reality.

Absolutely agree mate.
Imagine what we could achieve as a club with the PL tv deal plus our fanbase.

If we get the next few seasons correct hopefully we will be back up there.

 

[Esablade]

So do you think when he gets a bid for a player, he goes to the manager and says 'how much is Fat Harry worth?', the manager says '£5m' and he thinks 'oh fuck it, I'll let him go for £2.5m, it's only money, can't take it with me, lol'.

I think he look's at the offer from the club, look's at his running cost's for the year and makes a decision based on that...

 

[DronnieBlade]

So Sheffield Telegraph article today mentions Brooks being subject of a £1.8m bid from Everton. I've read this thread, but couldn't see mention of it. Apologies if I am repeating old news.

So with a bit of tooing and froing, £2m with a substantial sell on clause (20%) will just about do it.

You can't keep good players back. If the PL beckons, even in development squads where players are signed for this sort of money and salaries nudging £1m a year, who can blame them !

Brooks stock is high. While its expected he might push on, he might not. He will need to bulk up (a lot) to meet the demands on a modern PL or Championship footballer.

Two words.

Slew.
Jordan.

UTB

 

[BushBlade]

I think he look's at the offer from the club, look's at his running cost's for the year and makes a decision based on that...

So your answer is 'yes'.

 

[stringer]

So Sheffield Telegraph article today mentions Brooks being subject of a £1.8m bid from Everton. I've read this thread, but couldn't see mention of it. Apologies if I am repeating old news.

Where?

 

[Esablade]

So your answer is 'yes'.

No, my answer is posted above..

Who knows the actually process..do you?

 

[Slim Man]

Two words.

Slew.
Jordan.

UTB

I see your two words and raise you 11.

Kyle.
Walker.
Kyle.
Naughton.
Matt.
Lowton.
Harry.
Maguire.
Dominic.
Calvert.
Lewin.

David Brooks and Jordan Slew are incomparable. Slew couldn't trap a bag of cement.

 

[Dellas Cowboys]

Where?

hidden in here;

http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk...come-strong-blades-side-in-friendly-1-8659874

 

[BushBlade]

No, my answer is posted above..

Who knows the actually process..do you?

Yes, I'm Kev's best mate. I think it's a perfectly reasonable assumption that KM takes advice from his managers before selling any player. It's a very unreasonable assumption that he doesn't.
It's a simple principle of debate that if one makes a highly unlikely assertion, the onus is on the asserter to prove it to be true, not the other way round.

 

[stringer]

hidden in here;

http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk...come-strong-blades-side-in-friendly-1-8659874

I see! Written by a lad at Matlock's end. No bid from Everton... so far!

 

[Esablade]

Yes, I'm Kev's best mate. I think it's a perfectly reasonable assumption that KM takes advice from his managers before selling any player. It's a very unreasonable assumption that he doesn't.
It's a simple principle of debate that if one makes a highly unlikely assertion, the onus is on the asserter to prove it to be true, not the other way round.

It's an opinion on a football forum full of people's opinions, not 'the truth'.

...but what with you being 'Kev's bessie mate' perhaps you could enlighten us on the process and the 'truth'?

P.S- which part specifically, do you find 'highly unlikely' ?

 

[I should coco]

It's a simple principle of debate that if one makes a highly unlikely assertion, the onus is on the asserter to prove it to be true, not the other way round.

Hmmmm. That might be so in the real world but doesn't apply in Forumland.

Here the procedure is:

Make a ludicrous assertion.
Repeat it several times, then mention 'well known' and 'accepted'.
Do not accept it is an unlikely assertion and remember your made up garbage is as good as anybody else's.
Shout down anyone who disagrees and call them 'mate' or 'pal'
Keep the 'pig' insult in reserve to use on anyone who looks like they might be winning the argument
The last refuge of the T'internet scoundrel, is to tell them to 'piss off to Hillsborough"

 

[Esablade]

Hmmmm. That might be so in the real world but doesn't apply in Forumland.

Here the procedure is:

Make a ludicrous assertion.
Repeat it several times, then mention 'well known' and 'accepted'.
Do not accept it is an unlikely assertion and remember your made up garbage is as good as anybody else's.
Shout down anyone who disagrees and call them 'mate' or 'pal'
Keep the 'pig' insult in reserve to use on anyone who looks like they might be winning the argument
The last refuge of the T'internet scoundrel, is to tell them to 'piss off to Hillsborough"

Which part do you find 'ludicrous' ?

 

[BushBlade]

Hmmmm. That might be so in the real world but doesn't apply in Forumland.

Here the procedure is:

Make a ludicrous assertion.
Repeat it several times, then mention 'well known' and 'accepted'.
Do not accept it is an unlikely assertion and remember your made up garbage is as good as anybody else's.
Shout down anyone who disagrees and call them 'mate' or 'pal'
Keep the 'pig' insult in reserve to use on anyone who looks like they might be winning the argument
The last refuge of the T'internet scoundrel, is to tell them to 'piss off to Hillsborough"

I think you're a little confused. The first three are usually executed by the 'slasher', the following three are the responses of the 'clappers'.

IMO, there's far too much aggression on here at the moment, people calling others morons, wankers etc because they have a different viewpoint. People are entitled to their opinion and others are entitled to challenge it but there's far too much playing the poster, not the post. Discussion isn't about trying to ridicule someone you disagree with, it's about putting forward a salient counter argument.