Billy's contract

[Stretch]

Was there not a rumour around this time last season that Billy was going because Wilder didn't rate him and he wouldn't fit in with his style of play?

As well as another rumour that Wilder was pissed off due to unkept promises from above.

Off season = silly season

 

[Tunstall Fred]

As well as another rumour that Wilder was pissed off due to unkept promises from above.

Off season = silly season

He was going to resign because Tafothingy signed for Posh,that was another

 

[Slim Man]

I have got an unnerving feeling our budget isn't as good as it should be for a club like ours with 'game changing investment'

Imagine if we messed around in that league for 6 years, had a Saudi prince takeover and when we eventually get promoted, choose not to compete financially and come straight back down.
That's the Blades way.

 

[Bartleby]

I have a bit of intel on this also.

"Where u erd dis pal" ? Can't say but this is what I heard.

Billy (and also Coutts and Basham) had a "gentleman's" agreement that wages would go up on promotion to the Championship. They would go up to the level they where previously on at their respective Championship clubs prior to joining the Blades. Substantial increases in all cases.

The club have not kept their "gentlemans" agreement and they are all about £2k per week light.

So I suspect SunJi ain't bullshitting in this case.

UTB

Which gentleman was it agreed with though? The managers that signed them?

 

[bertieblade]

I bet you watch Hollyoaks.

Nope just talk and listen to connected people


Billy and co. will have had their one year extension in accordance with the terms previously agreed. I can only assume that the next year(s) have been offered at reduced terms and this is the reason for discussion.

 

[TJB.]

On the 'gentleman's agreement' front...

If we can honour a fucking ancient one for a certain ex-player, whom we quite frankly don't owe shit-all to, we can most certainly honour those made to our captain and our title-winning centurions, if indeed such agreements were made.

 

[Bartleby]

Sun knows his stuff.

Does he though? Season before last with his team sheets he did, but not much after that. Seemed to get some bits on the fixture list about half an hour before everybody else but not much else of note that I can recall, I think a few incorrect calls on players we were supposed to be signing.

 

[coolhandluke]

It's not just Billy that's pissed off it's Wilder too . According to a very good source that's very close to Wilder CW has claimed that building a team for the championship is like trying to work with both hands tied behind his back . Apparently Wilder has an extra 500k more in the wage budget this season than he had last year and may be forced to sell one or possibly two of our crown jewels to strengthen in key areas .

Nothing's ever straight forward at our fuckin club is it

 

[GrayBlade]

dont do this to us sun... we know yur ITK

I think his ITK horse has long since bolted based upon his more recent predictions.

I'm not sure if he ever was really ITK but to put things into proportion, even I was ITK for a season when Adams was Manager and I'm rubbish at it.

 

[Slim Man]

It's not just Billy that's pissed off it's Wilder too . According to a very good source that's very close to Wilder CW has claimed that building a team for the championship is like trying to work with both hands tied behind his back . Apparently Wilder has an extra 500k more in the wage budget this season than he had last year and may be forced to sell one or possibly two of our crown jewels to strengthen in key areas .

Nothing's ever straight forward at our fuckin club is it

You on wind up?

 

[coolhandluke]

You on wind up?

No

 

[Bladesman]

It's not just Billy that's pissed off it's Wilder too . According to a very good source that's very close to Wilder CW has claimed that building a team for the championship is like trying to work with both hands tied behind his back . Apparently Wilder has an extra 500k more in the wage budget this season than he had last year and may be forced to sell one or possibly two of our crown jewels to strengthen in key areas .

Nothing's ever straight forward at our fuckin club is it

That sounds game changing.

I guess Kyle Walker can't move soon enough.

 

[Slim Man]

No

If so that's wank

 

[Slim Man]

That sounds game changing.

I guess Kyle Walker can't move soon enough.

We've already got a million and half we didn't expect from Maguire!

 

[coolhandluke]

If so that's wank

To be fair it's a higher budget than Rotherhams was last season . A second from bottom finish isn't too bad is it ?

 

[Pinchy]

If the club have gone back on a gentleman's agreement it's on their head.

Well you've decided they have already, haven't you?

Any opportunity...

 

[Slim Man]

Well you've decided they have already, haven't you?

Any opportunity...

I said if didn't I?
No reason to disbelieve what Dronnie has put.

 

[Pinchy]

As well as another rumour that Wilder was pissed off due to unkept promises from above.

Off season = silly season

Absolutely. And it will get sillier before it gets better.

The club and chairman have already been tried and sentenced by the court of S2.

 

[Pinchy]

I said if didn't I?
No reason to disbelieve what Dronnie has put.

So it's not 'if' then?

 

[Slim Man]

So it's not 'if' then?

It is 'if' but at the same breath I have no reason to disbelieve what DronnieBlade has said.

Do you?

 

[Pinchy]

It's not just Billy that's pissed off it's Wilder too . According to a very good source that's very close to Wilder CW has claimed that building a team for the championship is like trying to work with both hands tied behind his back . Apparently Wilder has an extra 500k more in the wage budget this season than he had last year and may be forced to sell one or possibly two of our crown jewels to strengthen in key areas .

Nothing's ever straight forward at our fuckin club is it

Ah, a very good source. The agenda is really gathering pace now.

I listen carefully to everything Tufty says. There isn't even a hint of dissatisfaction.

 

[Pinchy]

It is 'if' but at the same breath I have no reason to disbelieve what DronnieBlade has said.

Do you?

I believe what Tufty says, actually.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Look.

What I have put is what I have heard.

Probably 8th or 9th hand by the time it got to me. Which means that the potential for "distortion of the truth" is ginormous.

Take it with a pinch of salt.

UTB

 

[Sean Thornton]

No

He meant yes.

 

[Davalon]

It's not just Billy that's pissed off it's Wilder too . According to a very good source that's very close to Wilder CW has claimed that building a team for the championship is like trying to work with both hands tied behind his back . Apparently Wilder has an extra 500k more in the wage budget this season than he had last year and may be forced to sell one or possibly two of our crown jewels to strengthen in key areas .

Nothing's ever straight forward at our fuckin club is it

I know you like a wind up mate but is this really on the money as far as you're concerned?

 

[UnitedBlade]

I have a bit of intel on this also.

"Where u erd dis pal" ? Can't say but this is what I heard.

Billy (and also Coutts and Basham) had a "gentleman's" agreement that wages would go up on promotion to the Championship. They would go up to the level they where previously on at their respective Championship clubs prior to joining the Blades. Substantial increases in all cases.

The club have not kept their "gentlemans" agreement and they are all about £2k per week light.

So I suspect SunJi ain't bullshitting in this case.

UTB

Interesting. It's extremely rare for me to be ITK but I was told from a very good source a couple of months ago that a few players were unhappy about money, Billy being one of them.

As has been mentioned elsewhere it's £600k pa if your suggested gap is correct, so not insignificant.

There's obviously agent negotiation ongoing but no guarantee on an eventual agreement.

 

[coolhandluke]

Ah, a very good source. The agenda is really gathering pace now.

I listen carefully to everything Tufty says. There isn't even a hint of dissatisfaction.

Shock , horror , Tufty doesn't announce at a press conference that he's pissed off

 

[Sean Thornton]

Billy took a huge paycut to come to this club, he perhaps feels that he wants some of that cut back seen as though he was a big helping hand at getting us to where we are today?

You'd have thought his agent would have already dealt with that when he signed. Eg a pay increase of x on promotion.

 

[coolhandluke]

He meant yes.

 

[Bladepicker]

Does he though? Season before last with his team sheets he did, but not much after that. Seemed to get some bits on the fixture list about half an hour before everybody else but not much else of note that I can recall, I think a few incorrect calls on players we were supposed to be signing.

He got the teams right. He got Adkins being turfed out and Wilder being wanted right.

He got the fixtures right last week.

Some of his stuff hasn't come off but then that is probably because wjat was expected to happen hit a glitch. The fact he has got very detailed things like line ups and fixtures right tells you he has a source and that this is legit as these are things you cant get right without.

He is always very vague and high level but I at least take note of what he/she posts above anyone else claiming itk - as we know for certain he has a source that feeds inside information.