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Goals scored,(and hopefully lack of conceded) will determine our season.
Currently five strikers.
Sharp.
Evans.
Lavery.
Clarke.
Hansen.

Assuming a front two,which two best satisfy the requirement? Maybe there's another in the pipeline,but assume not.

I can see Clarke and Evans working as it is near what Evans had with Cresswell. Or Hansen and Evans.
Just thinking outside the box,so no need to wade in with pelters because Sharp isn't the go to. We have these guys so Wilder clearly has belief in them. I also think Lavery could be a star. He has just been declared fully fit and I'm looking forward to seeing him this season.
 



Just a hunch but I reckon a new name will enter the fray.
 
seanbeenstattoo said:
I agree . Why don't you see that lasting?
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It only really worked after we had been promoted and I think the lack of pace will be shown up in the Championship. Love to be proven wrong obviously. What would you go yourself?
 
Some good food for thought there SBT. I must admit that I never even thought about Evans & Hanson as a combo but I could see that one working, just as Sharp & Hanson worked. As you say the Cresswell comparison is there, it's just whether it's good enough against Championship defences.

For what it's worth (assuming we don't sign anyone else up front) I think Wilder will go with Sharp and Clarke at the start of the season. Reasons being, they both ended the season together very well and I think they are both by far the best finishers we have. Ched was a fantastic finisher for one season, maybe he'll get that back who knows but those two seriously know how to hit the onion bag and as chances are likely to be fewer I suspect CW will want strikers in there who won't panic and will make the most of them.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Lavery shifts around between ST and winger duties. He has the pace and flair to do both.

Lastly, what about Done? Another player who really brings out the best in Sharp. Could he work well with another? He certainly does graft and if he could rediscover the form of his first season then who knows. Head says not good enough, heart wants him to do well again.
 
seanbeenstattoo said:
I agree . Why don't you see that lasting?
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Clarke has never really cut it at Championship level, no reason to think he will now in his 30's. Sharpe will score in any league so long as he gets the chance to, give him 2 good opportunities in 90 minutes and one is going in. I still think the partner for Billy is yet to arrive.
 
Will Done be here in August Stretch?. The Millers want him but we are holding back,probably a wages thing. I agree Sharp and Clarke will probably start and thet's fair enough. Just interested in what folk think our options are. I don't think it's good to just look at a front two and the rest get thrown on if as and when,I think it's interesting to look at the whole front 5 and think about options with them all.
 
seanbeenstattoo said:
Goals scored,(and hopefully lack of conceded) will determine our season.
Currently five strikers.
Sharp.
Evans.
Lavery.
Clarke.
Hansen.

Assuming a front two,which two best satisfy the requirement? Maybe there's another in the pipeline,but assume not.

I can see Clarke and Evans working as it is near what Evans had with Cresswell. Or Hansen and Evans.
Just thinking outside the box,so no need to wade in with pelters because Sharp isn't the go to. We have these guys so Wilder clearly has belief in them. I also think Lavery could be a star. He has just been declared fully fit and I'm looking forward to seeing him this season.
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If we don't get any new striker signings, given the fast flowing style in championship, and assuming we stick with 5-3-2, then sharps most likely deffo a starter but I can see either Nathan thomas or lavery starting to run the channels and use there pace, then late one either Evans, Clarke or Hanson coming on when Billy gets knackered .
 
Roygbiv said:
I think he will go with Sharp and Clarke initially but I can't see that lasting
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I agree - if we don't sign another striker. But this time it will be because they're lacking as a partnership, not because they're in a poorly functioning team.

After that Sharp and Evans seems likely but I think Evans and Lavery could end up our best, most suitable partnership.

When thinking about Evans and strike partnerships it should be noted that he's different to what he was before. He's stronger but not as quick and agile. He could be more suitable alongside a quicker type than a target man.

I hope we sign another striker because the current options aren't quite convincing enough. And it's not like there's a loan window anymore.
 
Roygbiv said:
It only really worked after we had been promoted and I think the lack of pace will be shown up in the Championship. Love to be proven wrong obviously. What would you go yourself?
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Ched is a huge gamble. I think he should be on the bench first game. I think the sensible,safe,and likely option is Billy and Leon. I think that is what will happen and it will be a very interseting first 45 minutes.
Is Clarke out of his depth in the Championship. In fact is Billy a year or so on? We will find out. Hopefully not. The Wilder factor could be key. Self belief and a refusal to be overcome.
Think Lavery is the ace in the hole personally.
 
seanbeenstattoo said:
Will Done be here in August Stretch?. The Millers want him but we are holding back,probably a wages thing. I agree Sharp and Clarke will probably start and thet's fair enough. Just interested in what folk think our options are. I don't think it's good to just look at a front two and the rest get thrown on if as and when,I think it's interesting to look at the whole front 5 and think about options with them all.
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Not sure Done will be here either, just wondering how he may fit into the dynamic if he stays. To be fair to him I think he has just as much chance of being effective as most of our current strike force on his day.
 



Strike partnerships are hard to get right. When we came down from The Prem we had Beattie, Sharp, Hulse, Webber and Stead but Robson couldn't find the right partnership. The year we went up it was Shipperley and Webber. On paper we had a far better strikeforce when we came down then when we went up
 
Ricky said:
I agree - if we don't sign another striker. But this time it will be because they're lacking as a partnership, not because they're in a poorly functioning team.

After that Sharp and Evans seems likely but I think Evans and Lavery could end up our best, most suitable partnership.

When thinking about Evans and strike partnerships it should be noted that he's different to what he was before. He's stronger but not as quick and agile. He could be more suitable alongside a quicker type than a target man.

I hope we sign another striker because the current options aren't quite convincing enough. And it's not like there's a loan window anymore.
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Interesting that Knill said we are still in the market for a forward player. That could mean an attacking midfielder but the one area of the team Wilder criticised last season was the forwards. I think he still thinks there is much to improve in that area.
 
Roygbiv said:
Interesting that Knill said we are still in the market for a forward player. That could mean an attacking midfielder but the one area of the team Wilder criticised last season was the forwards. I think he still thinks there is much to improve in that area.
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Didn't he say forward THINKING mate? If so I took that to be the Holmes type as opposed to an out and out striker?
 
seanbeenstattoo said:
Didn't he say forward THINKING mate? If so I took that to be the Holmes type as opposed to an out and out striker?
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Fair play, ive only seen quotes and not that actual interview, . I personally think we still need a striker but it will interesting to see how it pans out,
 
Roygbiv said:
Fair play, ive only seen quotes and not that actual interview, . I personally think we still need a striker but it will interesting to see how it pans out,
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I wouldn't disagree that another striker who we could reasonably expect to get double figures would be a great shout. It would surely mean losing Hansen and ask the question why re-sign Ched. Maybe Ched,who will undoubtedly be motivated more than any other striker in the league will surprise us. I'd guess that's the psyche behind taking him back.
 
Thought about it SBT, but it still comes down to the same combination. Fuck and knows. I certainly don't.
 
I don't think either Clarke or Hanson can play at this level. I'm dubious about Lavery.

Ched and Billy, but we need another striker and to also prune.
 
Wilder has signed Ched,Lavery,Hansen and Clarke. He has made Billy captain. The front 5 are all Wilders boys. Peaky Wilders!
 
Think Hanson and Billy will be the front two for the opening match and after 3-5 games Hanson will be dropped and transfer listed. Then hopefully Ched and Billy can operate together and Wilder doesn't 'do a Warnock' and always play with a big man/little man combination.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Just a hunch but I reckon a new name will enter the fray.
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Hopefully, Sharp is decent but non of the other strikers on our books are good enough for the Championship and I think we really need somebody to come in and play up top with Sharp.
 



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