Brooks staying

[larkymasher]

Brookes was very rarely used as a number 10 with the 23s last season.

He was usually played in a slightly wider role in a front 3. He did of course play the number 10 role on occasion but not a great deal.

 

[mancunianblade]

All for this.get him involved if your gonna chuck a raw talent into the mix best off being an attacking option.

 

[zablade]

If he does well in pre season then it will probably be the best chance we have of seeing him play a significant amount of games for us, if he goes on loan to league one and absolutely storms it we will have trouble holding onto him past January.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

If that's true then we really have shafted them.

Haaaaaaaaaa

Hope we haven't.

We had it done to us by Tottenham over Kyle Walker and it wasn't very nice.

Hope we've got a bit more class than that.

 

[Weasel]

I have no problem at all about 'shafting' little old Chessie.

Utd aren't obliged to look after our cousins down the road. If truth be told Chessie would make Utd jump through hoops rather than help us out if the boot was on the other foot. Utd should look out for themselves only. Wilder is a paid employee of SUFC not little old Chessie.

I bet Chessie didn't just give us Ched whilst the little 'leak' which came out early re that deal would almost certainly have come from the Chessie end. They don't give a shit about Utd. Now the feeling has been reciprocated. In short, fuk em the moaning set of inbred twats.

 

[Grappler]

Not sure what can have gone off or why the widely reported Chesterfield loan is off?, apart from being kicked to death in lower league footy, Brooks would be head and shoulders better than most players at that level.

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

Whilst I understand the default position of fans is to blame every cunt but their club for everything there really seems to be a lot of unsubstantiated allegations as facts. Whether or not Spurs arse raped us without lube isn't any reason to do the same to someone else.

 

[Lower Drop Blade]

Hope we haven't.

We had it done to us by Tottenham over Kyle Walker and it wasn't very nice.

Hope we've got a bit more class than that.

For Fuck sake

 

[JJBlade]

I'm so excited
He could well be our next one million pound sale
Gerrim sold, If we wait until he wants grown up wages we might lose him for much less

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Personally I hope Wilder was laughing his head off when he called them up to inform them.

Why should we send a good player to a league that is basically a glorified non league division.

 

[Weasel]

Wilder changed his mind. Until a deal has been signed he is allowed to do so. Don't know what the fuss is about. Utd will gave had countless deals set up only for them to collapse at the 119th hour. It happens. Perhaps Chessie should concentrate more on getting deals 'over the line' as everyone in football now refers to it.

Wilder thinks it's best for our club for the loan deal to Chessie to be scrapped. Thats enough for me. I trust CW to look after Utd's interests and thats the only thing I'm bothered about. Another clear example that CW will do what's right for SUFC. People should be thankful for that.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

He's going somewhere else on loan, my hunch is Charlton.

 

[Weasel]

He's going somewhere else on loan, my hunch is Charlton.

Wouldn't be the worse thing in the world if it meant that Wilder got one of his main transfer targets (Holmes). It would also see young Brooks getting more football experience at a higher level.

Personally I thinks it's probably just a case that the lad has dobe very well recently and Wilder wants to see if he can step up to the plate this season and be a real asset for us. I'd like the lad to be at the Lane this season and get game time off the bench.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Wouldn't be the worse thing in the world if it meant that Wilder got one of his main transfer targets (Holmes). It would also see young Brooks getting more football experience at a higher level.

Personally I thinks it's probably just a case that the lad has dobe very well recently and Wilder wants to see if he can step up to the plate this season and be a real asset for us. I'd like the lad to be at the Lane this season and get game time off the bench.

Not sure, I think Wilder is smarter than that. He see's the lad train every day so I doubt the Toulon U20's would make him suddenly change his plans, pretty sure there is another motive here.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Not sure, I think Wilder is smarter than that. He see's the lad train every day so I doubt the Toulon U20's would make him suddenly change his plans, pretty sure there is another motive here.

I think that's spot on.

There must be another motive. We surely don't need to take a closer look at him. He's been amongst the first team all last season so Wilder knows what he's all about. He's either being lined up for a sale or better loan transfer to a higher placed club, or...He's going to feature for us, probably because we have failed to bring in or we expect someone to be going out.

 

[bertieblade]

Brooks was included in the Ched deal at the request of chesterfield. Wilder has never been happy with it and has now decided to pull the plug on the deal as he and SUFC owe chesterfield nothing especially after Ashley Carson proved his integrity by revealing details of the Ched transfer before he as supposed to.

 

[HolmesfieldBlade]

This move is 100% about the first team. Doubt any bigger clubs will be sniffing right now and the fact we are a Championship side now means we can hold onto our prospects for longer.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

I have no problem at all about 'shafting' little old Chessie.

Utd aren't obliged to look after our cousins down the road. If truth be told Chessie would make Utd jump through hoops rather than help us out if the boot was on the other foot. Utd should look out for themselves only. Wilder is a paid employee of SUFC not little old Chessie.

I bet Chessie didn't just give us Ched whilst the little 'leak' which came out early re that deal would almost certainly have come from the Chessie end. They don't give a shit about Utd. Now the feeling has been reciprocated. In short, fuk em the moaning set of inbred twats.

Do you not have any problem with breaking a verbal agreement then? I do. It's called decency.

This isn't a win for either club actually, it sours relations with Chesterfield but it also sends out a message to all other clubs that we are a bunch of liars who don't keep our word.

And it's not good for Sheffield United fans, so I'd stop the celebrations right there, because even the reason given for going back on the deal is a lie. Why the hell do we "need to take a closer look at him?". He's been with the first team all last season. The facts are, he's being brought back to be sold. No other reason. Another promising young player sold off before we get the chance to see what he can really do. Let's all laugh about that when it happens eh? We've lied to Chesterfield and we've lied to our own fans about the reasons for not allowing the move to go through.

Not good I'm afraid.

 

[Liverpool blade]

Do you not have any problem with breaking a verbal agreement then? I do. It's called decency.

This isn't a win for either club actually, it sours relations with Chesterfield but it also sends out a message to all other clubs that we are a bunch of liars who don't keep our word.

And it's not good for Sheffield United fans, so I'd stop the celebrations right there, because even the reason given for going back on the deal is a lie. Why the hell do we "need to take a closer look at him?". He's been with the first team all last season. The facts are, he's being brought back to be sold. No other reason. Another promising young player sold off before we get the chance to see what he can really do. Let's all laugh about that when it happens eh? We've lied to Chesterfield and we've lied to our own fans about the reasons for not allowing the move to go through.

Not good I'm afraid.

I don't agree with your post!!. At the end of the day it was only a verbal agreement and unsure that any paperwork was signed!!!. This kind of thing goes in football on a regular basis!!. if wilder sees fit to pull the plug on a deal, it will be because he has other options that will benefit the team as a whole!!. Are you doubting wilder's plan?. Let's just wait and see what happens before we start with the doubts?. In wilder we trust!!.

 

[Gimli]

If this has happened so that he can be sold to a premier league club for a crappy fee a la Calvert Lewin, I'd be absolutely gutted. I hope SUFC aren't going to be as short sighted as to do that, but there is a concerning trend that suggests he is going to be sold for basically nowt.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

For Fuck sake

Obviously your vocabulary is a bit limited but if you can enlighten us all to what bit you don't agree with it would be helpful.

Don't worry, you don't have to use any big words.

 

[McGrath]

I can't quite figure out where Brookes fits in to our 352 formation if he's a winger or wider right in a front 3. Which bothers me as it makes me wonder if there's another motive unless we're switching formations, but that doesn't make sense as it seems a little risky prior to a new season in a higher division

 

[Weasel]

Do you not have any problem with breaking a verbal agreement then? I do. It's called decency.

This isn't a win for either club actually, it sours relations with Chesterfield but it also sends out a message to all other clubs that we are a bunch of liars who don't keep our word.

Think you could do with getting off your high horse a bit fella. I dont need anyone on a football forum to explain to me about life ethics and acceptable standards of behaviour. I've managed just fine in my life up to now.

The bottom line is that CW has seen fit to pull the plug on the deal (for the time being) and wants to see how the lad has developed over the summer. Nothing wrong with that, he is wanting to know exactly what options we have available to us with the players that we have contracted to us. He is doing what is right for SUFC not CFC. In fact, I would also say that if CW thought that the lad could do a decent job for us but let him go because of 'good manners' then he isn't doing the job that he is paid to do by his employers.

This isnt a case of agreeing to meet your mate down the pub and then deciding that youve changed your mind and can't be bothered to meet him or call him. That is out of order and 'bad manners'. A manager pulling a deal in football is just a business decision and happens in football and in the general Corporate world all the time. I myself work in this arena these days and there are very large financial deals negotiated, agreed, changed, renegotiated, agreed etc etc all the time and nothing is taken as being signed sealed and delivered until it is legally signed off. It can be a kick in the bollox at times after working on a deal for weeks/months but I and my business colleagues know the score. Its high risk and high reward and this is the rub, it's not personal.. its just business.

Re sending out the message that we are a club of liars....so are 91 other clubs in the league if it's to their benefit. And if it 'sours' relations with Chessie...well not sure just how CW will sleep at night now. The fact that that odious little prat 'Ashley Carson' is a bit upset...well bugger me for laughing. If you've ever come across the man you will probably realise what a first class dickhead that man is. The man dislikes Utd with a passion (he's a Wendy) and hes a sly deceiving little twat. In fact ask some of his very close family members what they think about the Chessie MD's personal ethics.....so yes I'm completely comfortable with CW doing what he's done. You disagree, fine thats your perogative. In my eyes, Utd don't owe Chesterfield anything. They are just another club who would happily shaft Utd sixteen ways this side of Sunday given half a chance. So screw em.

 

[GaryHamsonsLeftBootLace]

Suggestion from Chesterfield that this arrangement had been agreed in principle as part of the Evans transfer...

HTF did he make director level relying on verbal agreements. If it ain't in writing, it ain't happening.

Not saying I would break a verbal agreement, or that it's morally acceptable to do so, but in business it means sod all. Try getting a bank loan on the back of a verbal order from a customer and see how long the bank manager lets you remain in his office.

The tool should have got it in writing, especially if he believed it was part of the Ched deal. I bet the Ched part was written down

 

[LoughboroBlade]

HTF did he make director level relying on verbal agreements. If it ain't in writing, it ain't happening.

Not saying I would break a verbal agreement, or that it's morally acceptable to do so, but in business it means sod all. Try getting a bank loan on the back of a verbal order from a customer and see how long the bank manager lets you remain in his office.

The tool should have got it in writing, especially if he believed it was part of the Ched deal. I bet the Ched part was written down

Indeed. The equivalent that immediately springs to mind is from the Walker/Naughton deal, not so much the reneged loan deal for Walker but where there was a verbal agreement that we could take some Spurs academy players on loan (in addition to Walker's return).

Blades manager Kevin Blackwell, who will also be able to take Tottenham players on loan as part of the deal, said: "Having Walker available is a very important part of our strategy and it's exciting to have the chance to talk with Tottenham and judge whether any other of their players might fit into our squad.

"If we think that someone could help us we could take them on a short-term loan throughout August and, if required, extend it to a season-long arrangement after that."

That being said, Blackwell in his questionable wisdom might have simply passed up all other offers of players from the Spurs academy...

 

[coolhandluke]

Wilders a lying dishonourable cheat . He cares nothing for our Club . Dont let this charlatan drag the image of our Club through the mud . McCabe , Do your job as custodian of our great club and get rid of the bastard .

 

[Ricky]

Christ knows why we've promised them he won't go anywhere but them on loan. We don't owe them that whatsoever. Especially if Carson leaked the Evans deal. We've only backed ourselves into a corner.

What if a loan to L2 seems ridiculous after assessing him in pre season, but he still won't get playing time for us? Do we keep him in our U23s even longer, or loan him to a level that's below him?

Was it really necessary to rob ourselves of the chance of loaning him to L1?

 

[Esablade]

 

[Maidenhead]

We need a statement.

McCabe out !!!

 

[Snowman]

Do you not have any problem with breaking a verbal agreement then? I do. It's called decency.

This isn't a win for either club actually, it sours relations with Chesterfield but it also sends out a message to all other clubs that we are a bunch of liars who don't keep our word.

And it's not good for Sheffield United fans, so I'd stop the celebrations right there, because even the reason given for going back on the deal is a lie. Why the hell do we "need to take a closer look at him?". He's been with the first team all last season. The facts are, he's being brought back to be sold. No other reason. Another promising young player sold off before we get the chance to see what he can really do. Let's all laugh about that when it happens eh? We've lied to Chesterfield and we've lied to our own fans about the reasons for not allowing the move to go through.

Not good I'm afraid.

I am assuming you are party to all aspects of the "agreement", when it was made, who with and the complete terms thereof such that you can be confident in your outrage at our Manager's (or club's) capricious and dishonest behaviour?