Louis Reed

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Fulwood Blade said:
I agree with you - but why not last season?

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Perhaps the management tean felt a season in our U23's was best for him and gave them a full season to work with him?

I now think the a season in a first team would be ideal, Mansfield being ideal along with Rotherham/Donny/Chesterfield?

Grimsby with Russell Slade?
 
He definitely needs to go out on loan and will do him the world of good, but if we do sell him then I think we should insert a buy back clause as its a high possibility he'd blossom after a season or two.

IF we can't keep hold of Fleck after a season or two in the Championship then maybe Reed would be the ideal replacement for him if he's had regular game time and developed well, then we'd just develop him even further in our side.
 
Ricky said:
He's not even 20 years old and it's 'time for him to move on' before we even send him out on loan anywhere? Before we even see how he copes with regular football at senior level?

He's bulked up a lot, he's toughened up and he was the key player for the U23s last season. He's improved, it's just that he hasn't played in the first team.

A player can develop massively between 19-23, it would be daft to let him leave permanently at this stage.

Going on loan to a footballing side in L2 would be the most ideal option for him. Same with Brooks. Then things can be reassessed in January.
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Ricky said:
He's bulked up a lot, he's toughened up and he was the key player for the U23s last season.
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If he tags along with Steve Evans to Greggs he may bulk up a lot more? :fattwat:
 
I do find it odd how some people seem to be so keen to get rid of players with technical ability, i.e reed and brayford. Keep him and send him on loan why sell him?
 
Ricky said:
He's not even 20 years old and it's 'time for him to move on' before we even send him out on loan anywhere? Before we even see how he copes with regular football at senior level?

He's bulked up a lot, he's toughened up and he was the key player for the U23s last season. He's improved, it's just that he hasn't played in the first team.

A player can develop massively between 19-23, it would be daft to let him leave permanently at this stage.

Going on loan to a footballing side in L2 would be the most ideal option for him. Same with Brooks. Then things can be reassessed in January.
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Lowton is a good example whereby he went to Fradi and grew up. We could have missed out and ditched him at 18-19
 
INTERUNITED said:
You lot can have him mate, he's 19 and not even played one game for the England first team yet. Can't see him making it now as his career is coming to an end. He was the player of the year in the under 23's and shown a fantastic attitude, but that doesn't mean anything. He's a fantastic passer, and doesn't mind putting his foot in as well, but at 19 I just can't see him improving any more. You can have that Ben Whiteman back as well. He's well past it. Oh and add Regan Slater to that an all.
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Nuts isn't it. Players get written off so early. Even 3 or 4 years older Michael Brown looked average when he first came, 18 months later, he'd signed for Spurs
 
Bladesthorpe said:
Seen him play for the U/23s a couple of times this year, why when was the last time you saw him Mr Wonderful.
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I have watched him play over 20 times for the 23s this season and without doubt he was the standout player this season and when he was missing the team struggled a bit.
He never shirked a tackle, showed great vision and overall was very impressive, and was involved in most of the good things that happened.

CW sees something in him, otherwise he would have been long gone.

Reed is a perfect example of too much too soon in terms of first team football. He has been a victim of being a very young player playing in a team that has struggled. Especially in 2014/15 and 2015/16.

He needs first team football either in L1 or L2. What ever one it is is irrelevant. It is all about playing week in week
 
GRUMPY BLADE said:
Perhaps the management tean felt a season in our U23's was best for him and gave them a full season to work with him?

I now think the a season in a first team would be ideal, Mansfield being ideal along with Rotherham/Donny/Chesterfield?

Grimsby with Russell Slade?
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Won't grow in stature but in confidence . IMO don't think he will ever be good enough to get established in Blades first team . Would be good for the clubs you mention , league 1 and 2 level .
Still can see some outgoings at Lane over and above them players already listed . Wilder will balance the squad as well as the books , and doing what's best for the player and club .
 
larkymasher said:
I have watched him play over 20 times for the 23s this season and without doubt he was the standout player this season and when he was missing the team struggled a bit.
He never shirked a tackle, showed great vision and overall was very impressive, and was involved in most of the good things that happened.

CW sees something in him, otherwise he would have been long gone.

Reed is a perfect example of too much too soon in terms of first team football. He has been a victim of being a very young player playing in a team that has struggled. Especially in 2014/15 and 2015/16.

He needs first team football either in L1 or L2. What ever one it is is irrelevant. It is all about playing week in week
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I actually think he needs a loan to a Championship team, think he'd get steamrollered in L1 or L2, his game is much more suited for higher up the chain, he could be our own version of Leon Brittain at Swansea. I thought he might have gone on loan last season to Burton. Agreed he needs to get games somewhere though.
 



I think because we were skint & up shit creek from 2014-16 he was put into the first team too soon. We need to give him another year to develop & see how he gets on.

If anything being thrust into the first team a few years ago could actually aid him this year & I hope he does well.
 
Saw reed play many under 23s games and he was my MOTM every time The team were poorer when he was missing. never shirked a tackle and had been working on his game by his aggressive performances. He was very impressive in a holding roll and I hope he gets some regular game time next season. I think using him in the 23s shows how this level can be a great way to develope a young lad.
 
SUFC Handsworth said:
I actually think he needs a loan to a Championship team, think he'd get steamrollered in L1 or L2, his game is much more suited for higher up the chain, he could be our own version of Leon Brittain at Swansea. I thought he might have gone on loan last season to Burton. Agreed he needs to get games somewhere though.
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Wasn't there a rumour a while back that Middlesbrough were looking at him? I agree that his game may be better suited to a level that's less physical and allows more time on the ball, but I doubt there are many Championship teams that would be interested in taking him.
 
SUFC Handsworth said:
I actually think he needs a loan to a Championship team, think he'd get steamrollered in L1 or L2, his game is much more suited for higher up the chain, he could be our own version of Leon Brittain at Swansea. I thought he might have gone on loan last season to Burton. Agreed he needs to get games somewhere though.
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I have mentioned this before. It is strange but playing higher up in the leagues would suit Reed better. The hurly burly of lower league football will not do much for his footballing ability but it could make him physically more resilient.
That said, having watched him many times this season he hasn't lacked in dishing out the tackles.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
Wasn't there a rumour a while back that Middlesbrough were looking at him? I agree that his game may be better suited to a level that's less physical and allows more time on the ball, but I doubt there are many Championship teams that would be interested in taking him.
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60 odd first team appearances, England U19 international all at 19 years old. He has plenty going for him.

I honestly think there would be a few clubs interested in him if they were given any indication that we would let him go.

I really think CW sees Reed in his plans a little further down the line. Not next season but certainly the season after that. If not, he would have gone by now.
 
larkymasher said:
60 odd first team appearances, England U19 international all at 19 years old. He has plenty going for him.

I honestly think there would be a few clubs interested in him if they were given any indication that we would let him go.

I really think CW sees Reed in his plans a little further down the line. Not next season but certainly the season after that. If not, he would have gone by now.
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You might be right, but he'll be competing against Premier League academy youngsters for loan moves – I just think if a Championship team is going to take a punt on a youngster, they aren't going to be looking at within the division for that.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
You might be right, but he'll be competing against Premier League academy youngsters for loan moves – I just think if a Championship team is going to take a punt on a youngster, they aren't going to be looking at within the division for that.
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That is exactly right. This is why when a club is in L1 then its more difficult for our younger players to get a decent loan move.

The higher the club is the better loans for the younger players.
 
Unfortunately hasn't been ready for the first team for a while, and sadly not convinced he will ever be but we'll wait and see. Right decision to loan him out for the time being.
 
larkymasher said:
I have mentioned this before. It is strange but playing higher up in the leagues would suit Reed better. The hurly burly of lower league football will not do much for his footballing ability but it could make him physically more resilient.
That said, having watched him many times this season he hasn't lacked in dishing out the tackles.
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I just don't get this idea that any player would do better in a higher league, or that the championship isn't physical. I'm a traditionalist in that I believe the higher up the leagues you go, the better you have to be.
 
INTERUNITED said:
You lot can have him mate, he's 19 and not even played one game for the England first team yet. Can't see him making it now as his career is coming to an end. He was the player of the year in the under 23's and shown a fantastic attitude, but that doesn't mean anything. He's a fantastic passer, and doesn't mind putting his foot in as well, but at 19 I just can't see him improving any more. You can have that Ben Whiteman back as well. He's well past it. Oh and add Regan Slater to that an all.
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What do you mean when you say his career is coming to an end? Why the Ben Whiteman slating? Since when did players stop developing at 19 years of age?….. Shocking post.
 
BushBlade said:
I just don't get this idea that any player would do better in a higher league, or that the championship isn't physical. I'm a traditionalist in that I believe the higher up the leagues you go, the better you have to be.
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I know what you are saying Bush but i genuinely think Reed would benefit from playing in a higher league.

Adams was distinctly average in L1 but turns out as Birminghams young player of the year in the Championship. DCL couldn't buy a start in L1 but has pushed on in Evertons first team.

I Also believe there are many top end players who would struggle with the week in week out slog of lower division football. IMO
 
BushBlade said:
I just don't get this idea that any player would do better in a higher league, or that the championship isn't physical. I'm a traditionalist in that I believe the higher up the leagues you go, the better you have to be.
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Its not that simple. Perfect case in point is Martin Olsson, as the esteemed Garth Crooks put it:

'It never ceases to amaze me how some players, when they move from one club to another, see their game transform into something quite significant.

Olsson was having little effect with Norwich City in the Championship, but in the Premier League his quality appears to be better suited to the game and certainly appreciated by the players around him. Norwich might have lost their way, but Olsson is looking like a player again.'

If Reed had N'Golo Kante alongside him I reckon he would not look too out of place in the PL. Far be it for me to question Wilder, but I do think last year was a missed opportunity for him to get regular games somewhere. If he wasn't being used correctly we could always have recalled him. Its one of the disadvantages for players like him that the loan window has been abolished.
 



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