CONFIRMED Ched Evans officially signs for SUFC

[Yoonited]

If I were Wilder I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. The moment Billy goes a couple of games without scoring, a large vocal minority will be baying to get their hero in the team regardless of how injured, unfit or just plain shit he now happens to be.

It doesn't take Einstein to figure out that could have a negative impact on the dressing room and the general happy atmosphere at the club these days.

This is a McCabe sympathy signing all day long

Thing is though with all due respect, you are not Wilder and nor is he a Theoretical physicist. He is a shrewd Football manager while we are simply fans expressing opinions on a Football Forum.It's kinda hard to draw a parallel and therefore give credence to a post based on subjectivity.


Let's not spoil a Fab season with negative conjecture.If the lad doesn't do it in training and on the pitch he won't play regularly, but lets not do what others did and try hanging him without sufficient evidence.

I sincerely hope you are never a victim of the same reasoning.

UTB

 

[GrayBlade]

He will be a low risk (in terms of wages and fee) signing.

If anyone can get Ched back to his best then surely it has to be CW and his backroom team.

Chill your boots people and get behind them!!

When Evans got sent down (wrongly it turns out), he was as good a striker as Jordan Rhodes and around the same age.

Whose to say where his career would. have gone? He did score goals in the Championship for Norwich and as we all know he was only 21 at the start of that last season with us. Maybe he was just getting going? Now he's ours again I really hope that he can rediscover some of what he had back then for United's sake of course, but more importantly for his. Maybe it'll help him draw a line under matters and also help us remember him just as a footballer.

 

[McGrath]

I only hope that Ched Evans doesn't occupy a place in the squad by a striker who's proven his form more recently or a player who earned the shirt from last season.

If he turns out to be fit and able to do what he's never done before and score regularlyIt's in the Championship for us, then fair play. But I can't see it happening.

Personally I think this is a gamble not worth taking. There are better options out there.

 

[Yoonited]

Why take the gamble on this though. It makes no sense. Chances of him becoming the player he might have been 6 years ago look pretty remote to me... and let's face it he was probably playing out of his skin because it was a release on the pitch from all the stresses off it, he hardly looked interested when he didn't have a jail sentence hanging over his head

If some silly pricks start chanting that lasses name again and the tabloids get wind of it, then things aren't going to be pretty

Then perhaps it's up to us as supporters to stop them doing so.It will all be forgotten once the ball hits the back of the net a few times. Which is hard to imagine if we are on his back before he's had a proper chance to shine.

 

[YES Blade]

I only hope that Ched Evans doesn't occupy a place in the squad by a striker who's proven his form more recently or a player who earned the shirt from last season.

If he turns out to be fit and able to do what he's never done before and score regularlyIt's in the Championship for us, then fair play. But I can't see it happening.

Personally I think this is a gamble not worth taking. There are better options out there.

Wilder will pick the best players in the match day squad, to suggest otherwise is ridiculous, have you not learnt anything about our manager from this season?

 

[McGrath]

Wilder will pick the best players in the match day squad, to suggest otherwise is ridiculous, have you not learnt anything about our manager from this season?

Like I said before... this has McCabe sympathy signing written all over it. Just listen to the recent interviews on RS. Wilder didn't want to talk about it and didn't sound that chuffed. McCabe on the other hand was all fired up in full on "Tevez mode". Seems to me that this signing was made last summer and not this one.

Time will tell. But it's a distraction we don't need. I think to many of our supported see Evans through rose coloured specs... He was our most expensive signing ever and supposed to fire us to the Premier League, instead he misfired us to the League One abyss where we've spent the last 6 years.

 

[Razor1967]

If I were Wilder I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. The moment Billy goes a couple of games without scoring, a large vocal minority will be baying to get their hero in the team regardless of how injured, unfit or just plain shit he now happens to be.

It doesn't take Einstein to figure out that could have a negative impact on the dressing room and the general happy atmosphere at the club these days.

This is a McCabe sympathy signing all day long

So you know better than Mr Wilder? Just asking like.....

 

[YES Blade]

Like I said before... this has McCabe sympathy signing written all over it. Just listen to the recent interviews on RS. Wilder didn't want to talk about it and didn't sound that chuffed. McCabe on the other hand was all fired up in full on "Tevez mode". Seems to me that this signing was made last summer and not this one.

Time will tell. But it's a distraction we don't need. I think to many of our supported see Evans through rose coloured specs... He was our most expensive signing ever and supposed to fire us to the Premier League, instead he misfired us to the League One abyss where we've spent the last 6 years.

So you're telling me Wilder is a spineless yes man who will let the owners sign players for him?

What's the distraction exactly? We've signed a player, no one at the club is going to treat him any different from any other player.

 

[1889]

Bit more than foolish infidelity and I'm sure people will continue to have their own opinions on events.
Suspect he'll continue to carry a cloud over his head for quite a few and while hoping United do well next season, hoping we do well with other people scoring the goals.

I find it extremely strange, that many United fans were more than happy to call him a rapist, on the basis of a Jury's opinion.

However, since that decision has been adjudged unsafe, he has subsequently been retried and found not guilty, by 'exactly' the same means, many of those same people seem uncomfortable to acknowledge his innocence?

It appears to me, that many took the opportunity to condemn his actions in order to promote to us all, their own exceptionally high moral values and social conscience . Yet conversely, to welcome him back to the club, as an innocent man, is somehow beyond them and a betrayal of everything they stand for?

 

[Bladesman]

 

[sheffielder]

There is nothing on her profile to say she's a Sheffield United fan. total rubbish

 

[Rodley]

"Did someone say Cheg?.......oh........"

 

[BigBed]

Wonder if she's ever had a night out in Rhyl??

 

[Bladepicker]

Some of the stuff I have read today has been as ridiculous as the stuff when he was convicted. The Ched saga really brings out the worst polarised, ill informed bullshit on both sides.

I really hope he has a good season - not just because it will be good for us but it will quieten the disdain from some quarters who say there are no footballing grounds to sign him.

 

[Roygbiv]

The biggest supporter for Ched that I have seen on Twitter is, somewhat bizzarely, the former X Factor winner Steve Brookstein.

 

[tyke1889]

There is nothing on her profile to say she's a Sheffield United fan. total rubbish

That much of a Blade that she doesn't even know our correct twitter handle

 

[Bladesman]

There is nothing on her profile to say she's a Sheffield United fan. total rubbish

Exactly. Call me cynical but I think some feminists have alternative social media accounts so they can lie and comment on shit like this.

 

[Bladepicker]

There is nothing on her profile to say she's a Sheffield United fan. total rubbish

Even if she is a Blade it's still rubbish. It is her right of course but it is a ridiculous overreaction, had he been found not guilty at the original trial no one would have batted an eyelid and, given the appeal, that should be the stance of people now.

Seems agendas reach beyond the criminal justice system. And that goes for both sides - it's just the burn him at the stake nonesense brigade having their chance to shine this time (with the knuckledraggers still not helping with counter arguments either).

Ched may or may not succeed, but to not support a football club because they employ a man who did something morally contemptable but not illegal when young and foolish is a strange stance to take given the sport's paticipants and Ched's lifestyle and opinions now he has been on a steep learning curve.

 

[sheffielder]

The biggest supporter for Ched that I have seen on Twitter is, somewhat bizzarely, the former X Factor winner Steve Brookstein.

Who?

 

[LoughboroBlade]

When Evans got sent down (wrongly it turns out), he was as good a striker as Jordan Rhodes and around the same age.

Rhodes scored 36 league goals in 36 league games in a team with a mediocre midfield. Evans scored 29 goals in 30 league games aided by Quinn, Williamson and McDonald. The suggestion that Evans was "as good as Jordan Rhodes" that season isn't backed up by the stats or indeed most people's non-rosetinted spectacles of that season's events. He had an excellent season, which is not disputed. He has also had:
– one dire year at Championship level with us, followed by one mediocre year
– one mediocre year in at L1 level

Not forgetting of course the one season at Norwich he did have a successful year in the Championship, which was so long ago Kyle Walker hadn't made his league debut and Phil Jagielka was still playing in Everton's midfield.

I hope he has an excellent season for us, as it'll help mean an excellent season for the club. But my expectations could barely be lower – he has huge questions on his fitness and ability to deliver at this level. Hopefully Wilder can work his magic, because it'll be another strong to his bow turning the Evans he's bought into an effective Championship striker.

 

[GrayBlade]

Rhodes scored 36 league goals in 36 league games in a team with a mediocre midfield. Evans scored 29 goals in 30 league games aided by Quinn, Williamson and McDonald. The suggestion that Evans was "as good as Jordan Rhodes" that season isn't backed up by the stats or indeed most people's non-rosetinted spectacles of that season's events. He had an excellent season, which is not disputed. He has also had:
– one dire year at Championship level with us, followed by one mediocre year
– one mediocre year in at L1 level

Not forgetting of course the one season at Norwich he did have a successful year in the Championship, which was so long ago Kyle Walker hadn't made his league debut and Phil Jagielka was still playing in Everton's midfield.

I hope he has an excellent season for us, as it'll help mean an excellent season for the club. But my expectations could barely be lower – he has huge questions on his fitness and ability to deliver at this level. Hopefully Wilder can work his magic, because it'll be another strong to his bow turning the Evans he's bought into an effective Championship striker.

Hey well let's hope that you're wrong eh then maybe we'll all be happy, although looking at your comparison with Rhodes I'm not sure that you will.

Tell you what, I'm one of those who thinks Evans has got a lot to prove, but he was every bit as good as Rhodes was that season, and I think trying to justify your stance by saying it was all down to our 'superior' midfield is frankly clutching at straws. If you don't like him or want him just say it, but don't ever try to convince me that 29 in 30 isn't exceptional goal scoring at any level and in that season and on a par with what Rhodes did. Huddersfield had some excellent players of their own.

 

[ljk]

Because in a case like this his 'guilt' could never be established by fact alone, it was always going to be decided by opinion

Apologies for taking this a little out of the whole context of what you were saying in your post, but I think it perfectly highlights the crux of the whole Ched Evans saga.

He has to be seen as an innocent man in the eyes of the law, that shouldn't be an excuse to immediately flatten anybody who genuinely believes that it was an injustice.

It also should be treated and discussed entirely arbitrarily from football. Especially when you look at a lot of the fans on Twitter, you wonder some people do seem to be letting their United allegiance lead their opinion to an extent.

 

[Mendi]

It was going to happen no matter what happened.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Hey well let's hope that you're wrong eh then maybe we'll all be happy, although looking at your comparison with Rhodes I'm not sure that you will.

Tell you what, I'm one of those who thinks Evans has got a lot to prove, but he was every bit as good as Rhodes was that season, and I think trying to justify your stance by saying it was all down to our 'superior' midfield is frankly clutching at straws. If you don't like him or want him just say it, but don't ever try to convince me that 29 in 30 isn't exceptional goal scoring at any level and in that season and on a par with what Rhodes did. Huddersfield had some excellent players of their own.

I take the point on the midfield, but I'm not budging on the 29 in 30 is on a par with 36 in 36 point – one involves actually scoring 36 goals, the other suggests a trend approaching slightly fewer than 36 goals, made up of hypothetical goals that were never scored.

In terms of my own views, I don't think I could have been clearer in my posts since his rumoured signing that I'd have preferred us to look elsewhere. I simply do not believe we are signing 2012 version Evans. It is a complete shot in the dark. This could be a Jake Wright piece of inspired signing. It could very easily be a Hussey-sequel misstep however. Happy if I'm wrong? I will be delighted.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

http://www.sufc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/sheffield-united-ched-evans-3710797.aspx

Its finally happened after all these years, I've got a tear in my eye....

'Ched Evans has re-signed for Sheffield United.

Following the completion of a medical, the Blades have agreed an undisclosed fee with Chesterfield for the Welsh international to officially return to Bramall Lane.
A three-year deal was concluded after discussions between the clubs at board level and the player meeting United manager Chris Wilder.

The Blades boss said: "The signing is just one element of the plans we have drawn-up for next season. We have done our homework on the player. We pride ourselves on team spirit - as the fans have seen this season - and plan to bring in players who can be part of that.

"Ched comes to us with targets to achieve along the way. With a full pre-season with us we believe he can provide us with options up front and score goals."

Ched said: "I am delighted to be back. I still feel I have plenty to prove in football both at club and international level and I believe I can achieve those goals at United, playing in front of the terrific fans whose support I have always appreciated.

"I am very grateful to Chesterfield, the board and football management for giving me an opportunity to return to the game. It is just disappointing that it has come in season which has seen the club suffer relegation. I would like to thank the Chesterfield fans who made me feel so welcome."

Evans, 28, originally signed for United in July 2009, scoring 48 goals in 86 starts for the club, which included 35 goals in the 2011-12 campaign. He scored 14 times in his final 11 games for the club.'

I feel like that report is neglecting to mention something, for the life of me can't figure out what that is....ah never mind

WELCOME BACK CHED

(Edit: Didn't the club ban people from buying shirts with 'Evans' on the back during the 2014 saga? Has that ban been lifted? XD)

Go and get a perfect hatrick Ched, at the sty in front of their kop.

Two off side and one hand ball.

 

[Jan Age]

This transfer wreaks of McCabe from top to bottom.

Someone called it in here when Evans signed for town (forget who) said there was a deal in place for him to come to us at the end of the year.

Taking out the personal controversy he was caught up in. Purely based on footballing reasons this IO is not a good transfer.

This season:

Played 25 scored 5 (1:5) played slightly over half a season of football.
No football in the previous 4 years. 500k is poor in my eyes.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Elsewhere...

Not sure she gets it.

Hope she doesn't have a car to park.

 

[Champagneblade]

Rhodes scored 36 league goals in 36 league games in a team with a mediocre midfield. Evans scored 29 goals in 30 league games aided by Quinn, Williamson and McDonald. The suggestion that Evans was "as good as Jordan Rhodes" that season isn't backed up by the stats or indeed most people's non-rosetinted spectacles of that season's events. He had an excellent season, which is not disputed. He has also had:
– one dire year at Championship level with us, followed by one mediocre year
– one mediocre year in at L1 level

Not forgetting of course the one season at Norwich he did have a successful year in the Championship, which was so long ago Kyle Walker hadn't made his league debut and Phil Jagielka was still playing in Everton's midfield.

I hope he has an excellent season for us, as it'll help mean an excellent season for the club. But my expectations could barely be lower – he has huge questions on his fitness and ability to deliver at this level. Hopefully Wilder can work his magic, because it'll be another strong to his bow turning the Evans he's bought into an effective Championship striker.

I'm going to disagree with you here on the stats because over the entire season, Evans scored more goals per game than Rhodes when you look at actual minutes played. He also contributed a higher level of assists meaning he contributed to a goal every 75 minutes I think it is. Rhodes was closer to 90 minutes as he assisted little. Not got time now but figures are on Transfermarkt.

That said, the signing leaves me a little bit like that of having 'buyer's remorse'. For the first time we had a season not lamenting the loss of Ched and without the aggravation of his return being hotly debated all over. Had the signing took place 2 years ago I would have been delighted. As it is, it feels a little underwhelming. My concern is that this is more about scores being settled and the Chairman keeping his word than the manager taking a player in he wants. The one deficiency for example the forwards have is raw pace. Whilst no slouch on his day. He doesn't solve this. And his day was sometime in 2012.

I have no issue with him but I do hope this is a Wilder signing and not him accommodating his Chairman's wishes.

UTB

 

[alcoblade]

Hope she doesn't have a car to park.

Get those rabbits into safe custody.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm going to disagree with you here on the stats because over the entire season, Evans scored more goals per game than Rhodes when you look at actual minutes played. He also contributed a higher level of assists meaning he contributed to a goal every 75 minutes I think it is. Rhodes was closer to 90 minutes as he assisted little. Not got time now but figures are on Transfermarkt.

UTB

Before I decide who I believe makes the best point, can you both post a photo of your anoraks in case I need a tie breaker?