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No. That film was a fucking disgrace. Even in his own words he said it was shit.
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That, and WSC were low points for our club.

Fuck Welsh/Boyle/anyone. Cunts the lot of them.

pommpey

Low points? Are you really really really REALLY sure about that in the long and "illustrious' history of the club? Sam Hash, Hinch, Woolhouse McDonald, Brearley, Green and Madkins to name just a few. Couple of films one of which was wank and the other light hearted populism is hardly a low point in the great scheme of things.
 

Thanks and I've dug a few more of your critiques from the Jack Tar Cinema Blogs.

Wonderful life - Cliched, low budget black and white drivel and who wants to 'feel good'?
Shawshank Redemption - Crap Ohio accents and predictable prison breakout
Godfather - Brando dribbling and mumbling, gash storyline about the mafia
12 angry men - 12 poofs more like, gash and cheap with all the scenes in the same place
One flew over the cuckoo's nest - Cliched post Nam gash with no Sheffield accents
Leon - cliched gash assassin with bad foreign accent. No blokes taking clothes off and Natalie Portman is too young
Pulp fiction - gash gashery with predictable OTT deaths, some blokes with no clothes but in a predictable cliched way
Dark Knight - Blokes putting tight clothes on in a gash way, cliched
etc etc etc

CITIZEN KANE - Gash black and white crap with the main character a billionaire power hungry magnate being a thinly disguised homage to McCabe with "Rosebud" being code for the Desso.
 
Thanks and I've dug a few more of your critiques from the Jack Tar Cinema Blogs.

Wonderful life - Cliched, low budget black and white drivel and who wants to 'feel good'?
Shawshank Redemption - Crap Ohio accents and predictable prison breakout
Godfather - Brando dribbling and mumbling, gash storyline about the mafia
12 angry men - 12 poofs more like, gash and cheap with all the scenes in the same place
One flew over the cuckoo's nest - Cliched post Nam gash with no Sheffield accents
Leon - cliched gash assassin with bad foreign accent. No blokes taking clothes off and Natalie Portman is too young
Pulp fiction - gash gashery with predictable OTT deaths, some blokes with no clothes but in a predictable cliched way
Dark Knight - Blokes putting tight clothes on in a gash way, cliched
etc etc etc

Oooh. 'ark at you.

You've never seen those films, have you?

pommpey
 
No. That film was a fucking disgrace. Even in his own words he said it was shit.

That, and WSC were low points for our club.

Fuck Welsh/Boyle/anyone. Cunts the lot of them.

pommpey

I agree with Pompey about The Full Monty. Alongside Four Weddings as the most overrated British films of the 90s.

Brassed Off is far far better film.


* ( Going to see T2 on Friday.)
 
The Skids ,all about timing really ,I followed them about all over the show ,loved Adamsons guitar work (still do). I thought they were different from all the other bands with Adamsons open string guitar playing and met them any times after gigs. 3 brilliant albums ,that was it but Big Country and the Buffalo skinners were also great and the Armoury show not bad. Real shame Adamsons dead ,he was my icon but going to see them this summer for certain.
Unfortunately can only give you one like sitters .
Beeffy + punk
Beeffy + skids .
 
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I agree with Pompey about The Full Monty. Alongside Four Weddings as the most overrated British films of the 90s.

Brassed Off is far far better film.


* ( Going to see T2 on Friday.)

A bit harsh to list the enjoyable Full Monty alongside tripe like Bore Weddings.

But you are right about Brassed Off, superb film. I watch it at least once a year. Pete Postlethwaite is a much missed legend.
 
heh bravo. i never 'got' the Clash and i still don't.. saw them in 1980? 16 tons tour anyrate . the Skids were majestic live. first band i ever saw at the Limit matinee
worst live band i ever saw (out of proper bands) was Siouxie and the Banshees.. i fell asleep :D
New Order for me ,absolute shit ,but good on record. Best live was Graham Parker ,who ironically toured with The Clash in their early days ,as did The Specials ,I reckon both of them would blow the Clash off stage.
 
New Order for me ,absolute shit ,but good on record. Best live was Graham Parker ,who ironically toured with The Clash in their early days ,as did The Specials ,I reckon both of them would blow the Clash off stage.
Jesus sitters , I agree , new order are outstanding on vinyl / cd take ya pick , but I think are gash live , thought they where awful live at Glastonbury last year , and the time I saw them in Dublin , Berni did nawt but moan throughout the gig .
 
Jesus sitters , I agree , new order are outstanding on vinyl / cd take ya pick , but I think are gash live , thought they where awful live at Glastonbury last year , and the time I saw them in Dublin , Berni did nawt but moan throughout the gig .

Weirdly small world, went to the record shop at the end of my road and bought 'Charades' today to give it a whirl, never really knew The Skids at the time. Haven't had chance to listen to it yet.

New Order however I did see a few times and saw em most memorably at Glastonbury in 87. Fantastic, don't know whether it was the light show or the local produce but sitting on that Somerset hill with the sun going down was so memorable.. Like a lot of bands their performance can alter according to the venue. The Pogues in London very different to The Pogues in Scunthorpe...
 
New Order for me ,absolute shit ,but good on record. Best live was Graham Parker ,who ironically toured with The Clash in their early days ,as did The Specials ,I reckon both of them would blow the Clash off stage.

Talking of New Order and films.

24 hour party people was an absolute classic......
 
Irvine Welsh has a soft spot for united and we get (sometimes obscure) references in most of his books.
Unfortunately he also has a soft spot for West Ham so cancels itself out.
Terry Venables did at lot better, in one of his co-written crimenovels with Gordon Williams in the early 70's, the Hazell series, Hazell investigates and pass Wembley as Blades supporters are celebrating in the streets after winning the FA cup final beating West Ham. This is 1973 and a great little tribute to the team that entertained so many in those years.
 
Weirdly small world, went to the record shop at the end of my road and bought 'Charades' today to give it a whirl, never really knew The Skids at the time. Haven't had chance to listen to it yet.

New Order however I did see a few times and saw em most memorably at Glastonbury in 87. Fantastic, don't know whether it was the light show or the local produce but sitting on that Somerset hill with the sun going down was so memorable.. Like a lot of bands their performance can alter according to the venue. The Pogues in London very different to The Pogues in Scunthorpe...
From memory, I think it was the light show and the local produce.
 

Weirdly small world, went to the record shop at the end of my road and bought 'Charades' today to give it a whirl, never really knew The Skids at the time.

It's 'Charade' (no 's') which is a decent single and follow up to the superb 'Into the Valley' and 'Masquerade'. Around 79/80 they were on fire but just moving toward pomposity. The 'Days in Europa' album has some great tracks but a few duffers and by the time they got to 'Absolute Game' they were losing their way IMHO.

As Sitters says, Adamson's wide guitar sound was fantastic but Jobson got all sort of weird idea about becoming a poet and never really wanted to be in a punk band. I saw them a few times and they were good live, but not a patch on SLF, the Undertones or Sham69.
 
It's 'Charade' (no 's') which is a decent single and follow up to the superb 'Into the Valley' and 'Masquerade'. Around 79/80 they were on fire but just moving toward pomposity. The 'Days in Europa' album has some great tracks but a few duffers and by the time they got to 'Absolute Game' they were losing their way IMHO.

As Sitters says, Adamson's wide guitar sound was fantastic but Jobson got all sort of weird idea about becoming a poet and never really wanted to be in a punk band. I saw them a few times and they were good live, but not a patch on SLF, the Undertones or Sham69.

I love "Into the Valley" but apart from the title and la la la la la, la la la la la, I don't understand any of it. Can anyone help me, please?
 
Can anyone help me, please?

Nope, Jobson at his wordsmith best. I'm sure you are okay with the live B-side though; 'TV Stars' an ode to Corrie "Albert Tatlock, Annie Walker...ALBERT TATLOCK"

(Thread going a bit off piste but I started, it so I'll take my bat and ball home if anyone gets pissy......except Linz and Foxy of course, who own the pitch)

 
I can't stand the Full Monty. When it came out, i was working at the UCI cinema at Crystal Peaks, as an usher, and part of the job was standing in back of the film for the last 5 minutes, and then opening the doors. And it was packed out for months too, I must have seen the final scene well over 200 times. It came out a couple of months before Titanic*, and was still packing the cinema out even after the numbers had started to dwindle on Titanic.

And to top it off, when i went to University to study film, one of films we had to study, and write an essay on was The Full Monty. I have a similar loathing for Thelma & Louise, as i had to study that at A-Level.

*Incidentally, one of the other tasks at the UCI was to do an 'auditorium check' for every film, making sure the temperature was right, no one causing problems and so on. Somehow, i always timed my Titanic checks at about an hour and a bit into the film. I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to guess why....
 
*Incidentally, one of the other tasks at the UCI was to do one to the staff room making sure the temperature of the tea was right

There, fixed that one for you.

No wonder that one at Crystal peaks closed, never any bloody staff when I had the misfortune to visit.
 
Weirdly small world, went to the record shop at the end of my road and bought 'Charades' today to give it a whirl, never really knew The Skids at the time. Haven't had chance to listen to it yet.

New Order however I did see a few times and saw em most memorably at Glastonbury in 87. Fantastic, don't know whether it was the light show or the local produce but sitting on that Somerset hill with the sun going down was so memorable..

From memory, I think it was the light show and the local produce.

My memory of NO at Glastonbury 1987 is the same ! Twilight, hill, local produce, light show and all. I remember sitting half way up the hill next to a girl I was in love with, who was not in love with me, with an acid-crazed cockney saying "respect due for the visuals !" in my right ear, over and over again. Despite unrequitedness and cockneys, it was just ace. Lasers ! Not many live acts had lasers in 1987. That night, NO were completely sublime.

Band I was most looking forward to that year was Husker Du. They were on in daylight on the main stage, v small crowd, drizzle, wind blowing the sound back and forth and all over. One of the biggest disappointments of my young life at the time. That and the fact that Green on Red didn't show up at all ...

That was the days when Glasto was much smaller, when festivals were still deeply uncool, some time before they (especially Glastonbury) became a middle-class lifestyle accessory. It was still possible to get over the fence for nowt--I paid, tho I had several mates who didn't. There were still no uniformed coppers on site, and the place was heavily populated by groups of drug dealers in blue boiler-suits and balaclavas. It was quite intimidating.

It was the best weekend, but I never went back. Went to the Cambridge Folk Festival more or less every year the following ten summers. Much smaller. Fewer knobheads. Ah, memries...
 
My memory of NO at Glastonbury 1987 is the same ! Twilight, hill, local produce, light show and all. I remember sitting half way up the hill next to a girl I was in love with, who was not in love with me, with an acid-crazed cockney saying "respect due for the visuals !" in my right ear, over and over again. Despite unrequitedness and cockneys, it was just ace. Lasers ! Not many live acts had lasers in 1987. That night, NO were completely sublime.

Band I was most looking forward to that year was Husker Du. They were on in daylight on the main stage, v small crowd, drizzle, wind blowing the sound back and forth and all over. One of the biggest disappointments of my young life at the time. That and the fact that Green on Red didn't show up at all ...

That was the days when Glasto was much smaller, when festivals were still deeply uncool, some time before they (especially Glastonbury) became a middle-class lifestyle accessory. It was still possible to get over the fence for nowt--I paid, tho I had several mates who didn't. There were still no uniformed coppers on site, and the place was heavily populated by groups of drug dealers in blue boiler-suits and balaclavas. It was quite intimidating.

It was the best weekend, but I never went back. Went to the Cambridge Folk Festival more or less every year the following ten summers. Much smaller. Fewer knobheads. Ah, memries...
A lot of that is very similar to my experiences. I was also on the hill watching the laser show, which I think was the first proper laser show I'd seen.

I went '85, 86, 87. Paid twice and jumped the fence once, I think. I think it was £12 in 85 which wasn't a fortune even then. I think there was a fallow year or something in 88 or 89 so didn't go but went in 90. That's when it started to get really big and a bit too mainstream for my liking. In 89,I think, I went to one in Cornwall called Treworgy and that was hardcore. Like the early Glasto, a mix of paid festival and a free festival outside.
 
New Order for me ,absolute shit ,but good on record. Best live was Graham Parker ,who ironically toured with The Clash in their early days ,as did The Specials ,I reckon both of them would blow the Clash off stage.
was that the one at the Poly when Section 25 blew them off
 
Nope, Jobson at his wordsmith best. I'm sure you are okay with the live B-side though; 'TV Stars' an ode to Corrie "Albert Tatlock, Annie Walker...ALBERT TATLOCK"

(Thread going a bit off piste but I started, it so I'll take my bat and ball home if anyone gets pissy......except Linz and Foxy of course, who own the pitch)


Have that on white vinyl signed by the band , also scared to dance album , got them to sign it beforw there gig in top rank , now thats going back some .
 
was that the one at the Poly when Section 25 blew them off
Seen them a few times ,always crap ,but the worse was at Romeo and Juliets believe it or not ,major attitude and musicianship issues. So disappointing after seeing Joy Division both at the Top rank (supporting Buzzcocks I think) and Nelson Mandella building both brilliant.
 
[QUOTE=" I saw them a few times and they were good live, but not a patch on SLF, the Undertones or Sham69.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree, SLF are easily the best of that bunch. Seen them probably 20 times and not seen a bad one yet.
 

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