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WITHOUT DONE ON THE FIELD FOR THE LAST 2!!!

Teams are starting to work out how to play against us, Done not being able to score isn't helping. A better striker would. End of
how are they working it out if they leave with nothing

again arent we winning enough 6-0 again

it aint going to happen
even if we sign the welshman
who scored as many as Done yesterday

bolton scraped a 2-1 yesterday and shrewsbury were denied a cert last minute pen
they got 3 points , just
thats how it is
this dream of signing the welshman and winniing every game 6-0 is best left for Enid Blyton books
 
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Done is a bit of a conundrum. Technically shit, awful scoring record, virtually no assists, but when he plays we usually win. I suppose that is the stat that matters the most.
 
Done is a bit of a conundrum. Technically shit, awful scoring record, virtually no assists, but when he plays we usually win. I suppose that is the stat that matters the most.

Sort of like the way that bees aren't supposed to be able to fly.

I'll continue to enjoy the honey whilst others slag off their aerodynamic properties.
 
Done played in every one of the first win-less 5 games. If you're going to look into the stats make sure you include that one. The most important stat though is the fact he's been played as a striker in every game and only scored twice and we're half way through the season. That should tell everyone all they need to know. We can't rely on him as a striker, simple as. If you want to play him for all the other things he brings to the team, fine, then play him, but not as a striker. You need 2 players up top who can put the ball in the net. We've got one so far. We need to give both Lavery and Clarke a chance to show what they can do with an extended run in the team. I thought Lavery was unfortunate not to get the nod yesterday considering his excellent performance when coming on v Coventry. I think it was the right tactical move to bring Clarke on yesterday though as we needed a more physical presence up front.
 
The bandwagoners had to change approach eventually.

They can't really slag off their default targets Scougall and Sharp anymore so the fire has been concentrated on Matt Done. It was always going to happen.

Surely I can't be the only one noticing this....

The Bandwagoners.
The Clique.
The only agendas I have are positive ones.

Vs

Hoofers.
S2 dinosaurs.
My love of proper football.

So much ♥ and so little Scougs to go round....
 
Done's goal contribution has made my mind up for me.

If Done was to start every game from now till the end of the season do you think we'd get promotion? And do you think Done would get more than 5?

If either of the answers are no it's clear we need to improve

I think yes to both.
The stats so far help me with one of those.

I imagine you wanted Neil Shipperly out in '06 too?
 
If you don't want an improvement on a striker who's scored 2 goals over the course of half a season you're clearly happy with league one football and that's a shame
 
If you don't want an improvement on a striker who's scored 2 goals over the course of half a season you're clearly happy with league one football and that's a shame

Yet you want one whose legs are knackered and has only scored 6. I'm not even going into what happened last time he was here...
 
Yet you want one whose legs are knackered and has only scored 6. I'm not even going into what happened last time he was here...
His legs are knackered? And he's scored 6 for a bad side, 4 more than Done has managed for the the top of the league.

Wilson also has said he's the 'best striker in the league' recently. Doesn't sound or look like he's gone to me.
 



Stupid response. How dare I or others want us to improve. We're perfect just as we are.

Happily, Tufty gets the point and is attending to the improvement imperative as we speak. In the not too distant feature Done will be... well ... done.
 
He just ain't good enough is he?

Today has also put paid to the myth that we score more with him on the pitch too.

A striker with 2 goals to his name in January when being a first team regular. Absolutely pathetic.

If we had an improvement the football would be better too. The opposition know they can let Done have it and he won't hurt them - they don't do that with Billy.

Go and get the welsh one next month Chris.
Headless chicken!
 
Stupid response. How dare I or others want us to improve. We're perfect just as we are.

This is a bizarre exchange. You say Done is awful, I asked for stats in matches he's played, you refuse and say you don't care what the stats say and anyway, you only judge him on 1/2 games.

You ask if I think we'll be promoted with Done/Sharp and if he'll score more than 5 goals, I answer yes and yes to which you reply that I clearly don't want us to go uP and I'm happy in League One. I call this out to be the steaming dog turd it is and MY response is idiotic?

You remind me of the chat show host from Family Guy that simply replies "YOU HATE AMERICA" to anyone with a differing opinion.

Can I blame Blades Mad?
 
His legs are knackered? And he's scored 6 for a bad side, 4 more than Done has managed for the the top of the league.

Wilson also has said he's the 'best striker in the league' recently. Doesn't sound or look like he's gone to me.

Chezzie supporters have said that he's lost a yard of pace, his fitness is sub-par and he's prone to injury.

He's been outscored by another player in this bad-side.

And Wilson has said he's the best striker in the league? So he's better than Billy? Give me fucking strength. His manager will of course praise him.

I'm not saying Done is a better option; I'm saying that we have two other strikers who are much more worthy of a chance before we bring another striker in. Particularly one who has shitloads to prove..

Fuck Ched.
 
A measured response should be that Done cannot go on not scoring and remain a starter in the team.

I expected Lavery to start against Oldham, but CW kept it the same and we ended up with another 3 points, but no one can say the performance was nothing more than adequate.

An early goal would have opened the game up.

No one knows if Sharp and Lavery is an ideal partnership.

Clarke and Sharp worked yesterday - but doesn't appear to work as a starting formation.

The problem is not lost on CW & AK and will be resolved before long. We cannot keep waiting for Done to work whilst there are 3 teams fighting for 2 auto places. This league is OURS to lose, we need to make sure we don't finish 3rd due to sentiment - I really, really, really could not do a PO situation considering the progress we have made and the position we are presently in.

UTB
 
A measured response should be that Done cannot go on not scoring and remain a starter in the team.

I expected Lavery to start against Oldham, but CW kept it the same and we ended up with another 3 points, but no one can say the performance was nothing more than adequate.

An early goal would have opened the game up.

No one knows if Sharp and Lavery is an ideal partnership.

Clarke and Sharp worked yesterday - but doesn't appear to work as a starting formation.

The problem is not lost on CW & AK and will be resolved before long. We cannot keep waiting for Done to work whilst there are 3 teams fighting for 2 auto places. This league is OURS to lose, we need to make sure we don't finish 3rd due to sentiment - I really, really, really could not do a PO situation considering the progress we have made and the position we are presently in.

UTB

Agree 100% with this post. Done's work rate cannot be faulted, he runs himself ragged every game, but if he is starting up front he needs to be scoring more goals in my opinion.

I think we need another striker, but only if we can find one that would do what he does (run into spaces, and create space by drawing defenders out of position) AND score goals as well. Personally I don't think we need Ched (we have a striker who has hit 16 in 23, and is on target for 30+) and I'm not sure he will do what Done does these days (though he would probably score more).

If I was CW, I'd have a list of potential targets, and I'd be sitting down with Billy and asking him, as captain, main striker and leading scorer (in the division, not just for us) which of these players he (Sharp) thinks he would gel with, and play the best alongside. If that is Ched, then go get him. If it is someone else, then forget Ched and get in whoever Billy thinks will allow him to continue scoring, as well as chipping in with (ideally) 10-15 of their own in the second half of the season.

Just my 2p-worth mind, but I think Billy's input on this would be valuable.
 
Bottom of the league they might be, but Oldham came with a game plan and to a man they worked their rocks off in that 1st half, closing us down all over the pitch and rendering our midfield pretty ineffective. We need some players who can do the same, and Matty Done is certainly one of the best at doing just that. Yet again he pressured defenders and the goalkeeper to boot out anywhere balls that were picked up by us. I've not forgotten (since it was not so long ago, but too long for some) what happened to us on many occasions last season in similar situations - we ended up drawing/losing games we should easily have won. We don't have wingers, but the best cross in the 90 minutes was from Done and it should have been converted. In the 2nd half once again the opposition gradually ran out of legs and we looked different class. Job Done...........Done Job
 
Imagine thinking that we're winning games cause Done's on the pitch. Whats his contribution to those games, it certainly isn't goals or assists. Is he helping keep clean sheets.
 
Agree 100% with this post. Done's work rate cannot be faulted, he runs himself ragged every game, but if he is starting up front he needs to be scoring more goals in my opinion.

I think we need another striker, but only if we can find one that would do what he does (run into spaces, and create space by drawing defenders out of position) AND score goals as well. Personally I don't think we need Ched (we have a striker who has hit 16 in 23, and is on target for 30+) and I'm not sure he will do what Done does these days (though he would probably score more).

If I was CW, I'd have a list of potential targets, and I'd be sitting down with Billy and asking him, as captain, main striker and leading scorer (in the division, not just for us) which of these players he (Sharp) thinks he would gel with, and play the best alongside. If that is Ched, then go get him. If it is someone else, then forget Ched and get in whoever Billy thinks will allow him to continue scoring, as well as chipping in with (ideally) 10-15 of their own in the second half of the season.

Just my 2p-worth mind, but I think Billy's input on this would be valuable.

Billy Sharp can pick the team and select transfer targets when, if ever, he has the experience and ability so to do. Until then, it's best left to professional managers, coaches and scouts. Sharp can carry on doing rather well at what he's paid for.
 
For teams like Coventry and Oldham to close us down all game takes its tole on them

The introduction of fresh legs and a different attacking approach can tip the balance

Saying we only scored because done came off is totally discounting 3/4 of the match that's already been played and is simplistic thinking a best
 
Billy Sharp can pick the team and select transfer targets when, if ever, he has the experience and ability so to do. Until then, it's best left to professional managers, coaches and scouts. Sharp can carry on doing rather well at what he's paid for.

Oh absolutely, I would never leave it entirely down to him. I just feel that given how well he is doing this season, some input from him on who he would prefer (from a list pre-determined by the manager, as stated in my previous post) could go a long way towards keeping him happy and scoring. Surely if we are going to sign an improvement on Done, as I feel we should, then their ability to gel with the player who is on track to hit 30+ for us this season should be a consideration.

(And I never mentioned Sharp picking the team. I'll leave that entirely up to CW/AK, as they're doing a good job of it so far, if results are owt to go on)
 



If you don't want an improvement on a striker who's scored 2 goals over the course of half a season you're clearly happy with league one football and that's a shame

Everyone wants an improvement in every single position , and that includes the front two , who doesn't ?

At this moment in time , however , the only way we can improve is by waiting until the JTW opens and bringing someone else better in than what's currently available .

For now though the best that we have are playing in the majority of games . Sharp and Done are Wilder's preferred option . If it's good enough for him it's good enough for me .
 

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