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diplomat said:
They often bleat on about us giving kids tickets away. So we should too, if we have space we should do as much as we can to encourage the next generation and also to foster community links. I'm sure they do it too. If they don't then they are more of a shitty club than I thought.

Either way it's not enough to impact attendance.

Although if I don't attend, does anyone know if my season ticket is counted ?
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It's paid off also.
I have family, friends and their friends who have come through the 'youth discount' years to go on and get a full season ticket once they of age and working...some get more into and do the away games also...this policy and ticket pricing generally has been one of McCabe's successes.
 
JohnDenver said:
The Kop is sub standard so there's a case for carrying this out when we're back in the Championship. Rail seats and improving the rake of the stand would be something to make everyone happy.
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Agree with that,the angle rake of the existing structure is pants,it needs a rethink,take the top half of the existing away and build new from there,more space underneath for more commercial things.
 
Booker4 said:
Don't know about anyone else but I'm glued to any news re Bolton Wanderers potential take over and obviously I want them to go into administration. Sorry if that sounds a bit cruel but at the end of the day, them getting 109 points docked would be a huge bonus. It seems the deal still isn't done yet. Hers's one of the latest articles, and according to Anderson, it should be done next week.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/14937820.whites_avoid_wage_woes/


http://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.c...when-theyre-not-even-the-biggest-in-sheffield

On a side note I read this article, above, from a Wednesday fan about us, sorry Bolton! Is this the most biased account of the two Sheffield clubs ever! The bit about Wednesday averaging 22,000 and us on 18,800 as an average over the last five years means that Wednesday have a bigger fan base apparently! No mention that Wednesday have been in the Championship for that time and us in League One, but maybe that plays no part as far as this idiot Bolton fan is concerned. Away fan averages in League One are particularly low in comparison to the Championship.

Apparently we also have a crapper stadium too than the Pigs as the Lane looks old and only holds 32,700 compared to Wednesday's stadium of just short of 40,000 even though they can never achieve any more than 36,000 due to segregation issues.The article is just unbelievable and if anyone thinks poor Bolton for overspending and its not fair on their fans with administration than read this article below and then decide!
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I didn't read it, but a bolton fan taking about support, oh the irony. They are on par with wigan, Preston are much better supported club than bolton.
 
Snowman said:
I'm more interested in the fact that Trevor Birch is doing the negotiating again and Jonathan Disley is in the background. Will football never learn?
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Trevor Birch? That's like asking Joseph Fritzel to babysit for you.
 
Wednesday give tickets away free of charge to adults but only if you send a begging email.
 
Roygbiv said:
There is a comment below from a Wednesday


"Historically, Wednesday have always been the bigger club. For the last two seasons there has been a policy, at united, to give hundreds of free tickets to schools, youth clubs and other organisations. This artificially inflates the attendances. There is also a scam where adults get in on kids tickets through the automatic turnstiles.
At best, united are a slightly bigger fish in an ever increasingly small pond."

I imagine this latest conspiracy stems from North Korea Talk
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They just look for a reason to justify why our crowds are holding up. What they seem to forget is that ALL clubs give tickets to Scholes and, as a former turnstile operator at the sty, I can confirm that many adult supporters entered the ground on child tickets. I suspect it happens at most grounds as turnstle operators will not challenge fans as not worth the trouble
 
BBC Sport website has an update on the Bolton situation, which seems to centre on a fight for control between a money-man (current chairman) and a football man (Dean Holdsworth). They are losing £800,000 a month, will not recruit in January, but will not sell either, according to the Chairman, who hopes to take sole control shortly. I imagine Bolton fans are worried, and I hope the club is not asset-stripped (there but for...); at the same time, I hope the spotlight is kept on them, and that if they do break the rules (administration or financial FairPlay), the appropriate sanctions are applied. The interests of all league 1 fans must come before those of a Monaco-based money-man.
 
since1889 said:
I see them selling Clough, possibly Ameobi but he's about as fit as Tango after 20 kebabs.
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It is going to be hard for them to sell Ameobi considering he is on loan from Newcastle. :)

I think their chairman will take full control of the club thus avoiding administration. They may sell one player in January but as with most clubs they will find a way out of their situation.
 
since1889 said:
I see them selling Clough, possibly Ameobi but he's about as fit as Tango after 20 kebabs.
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Their Chairman has just come out and said that unless they get £10 million for Clough, he isn't leaving. None of their squad are. If they are losing £800,000 a month and refusing to sell players, I think that that's a disgrace. Sadly, it's the world we live in.

We have to concentrate on our own affairs this season and amass over 90 points. Nobody is going to do us any favours so let's get the job done.
 
Roygbiv said:
There is a comment below from a Wednesday


"Historically, Wednesday have always been the bigger club. For the last two seasons there has been a policy, at united, to give hundreds of free tickets to schools, youth clubs and other organisations. This artificially inflates the attendances. There is also a scam where adults get in on kids tickets through the automatic turnstiles.
At best, united are a slightly bigger fish in an ever increasingly small pond."

I imagine this latest conspiracy stems from North Korea Talk
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Shocking stuff if true.

Any ethical business would be putting the prices up on those demographics to be inline with clubs at a much higher level. Like Wednesday did.
 
bartman said:
They just look for a reason to justify why our crowds are holding up. What they seem to forget is that ALL clubs give tickets to Scholes and, as a former turnstile operator at the sty, I can confirm that many adult supporters entered the ground on child tickets. I suspect it happens at most grounds as turnstle operators will not challenge fans as not worth the trouble
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Paul?
 
In S6
didn't the club put people in the corner who had tickets who was on the dole, if my memory serves me right.
please correct me if I'm wrong.
 



It's certainly more than we're losing at the moment but I suspect we've been close to that amount over short periods.
I think the issue is that the co-owner won't continue to keep propping them up unless he's the full owner so has said to Holdsworth 'either sell me the business, or cover our losses because I'm not going to so you either do one of the above or I'll put the club into administration and we'll both lose out but I'll cut my losses'.

I think every Blade would be happy if KM was willing to subsidise us by £800k a month. In fact many have suggested he should do, so I don't understand why Bolton are getting criticised for it.
 
Dnblade said:
Yes,as long as they had Chlamydia I think.
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I don't mind if people get cheap tickets but should be able to sit anywhere in the ground not in one area,
If the blades give tickets out to schools I don't mind either, Bit like the gate debate who really cares?
End of the day we got to look forward and learn from the past.
By pricing the people who are our future can backfire. Season tickets by lumping 3 seasons together is a good thing, half season tickets are also good for some.
Only by getting more through the gates is by being good on the field no brainer but having a good core of fans keeps the club afloat
 
TintwistleS2 said:
I don't mind if people get cheap tickets but should be able to sit anywhere in the ground not in one area,
If the blades give tickets out to schools I don't mind either, Bit like the gate debate who really cares?
End of the day we got to look forward and learn from the past.
By pricing the people who are our future can backfire. Season tickets by lumping 3 seasons together is a good thing, half season tickets are also good for some.
Only by getting more through the gates is by being good on the field no brainer but having a good core of fans keeps the club afloat
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Three year season tickets are good for those supporters who can afford to lay out three years money up front but it must cause cash flow problems for the club if they spend it in one season. Like a certain club might be doing, gambling that they'll get promoted to the PL.
 
Just as a follow up to my Wednesday jibe.

I don't care about the attendance arguments, both clubs in Sheffield have great support when you compare us to other cities. And both have proven they have a very solid core of support in the recent tough times for both sides. There's humour in the way I hear even their casual supporters inflate the figures, but even then I try to stay out of it.

I actually do care if we're giving away free tickets to schools, youth groups, and others. It's a very sensible business model to attract groups who may go on to buy tickets and merchandise for decades to come. I don't like that argument though, it's coming from the perspective that football clubs need to have financial justification for such things. Actually, I like it because it's one of those small things that allows you to still believe in a football team as a part of the community, providing some outreach and return to the locals who made it what it is.

I know you can't be a successful team without solid financial backing any more, but when we justify everything through financial returns that's when we open the door to Wimbledon moving the Milton Keynes, Hull City becoming the Hull Tigers, and Cardiff playing in red. I want my team to do some community work because it's a good thing to do, any financial return is a bonus.
 
Roygbiv said:
There is a comment below from a Wednesday


"Historically, Wednesday have always been the bigger club. For the last two seasons there has been a policy, at united, to give hundreds of free tickets to schools, youth clubs and other organisations. This artificially inflates the attendances. There is also a scam where adults get in on kids tickets through the automatic turnstiles.
At best, united are a slightly bigger fish in an ever increasingly small pond."

I imagine this latest conspiracy stems from North Korea Talk
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We don't do anything any different to what the Pigs do/have done regarding free tickets. The Pork have rolled up to my Grandkids schools with free tickets on several occasions, and also left goody bags (which end up in the bin). They've also definitely given tickets to Hallam University. It's not a bad thing, and if anything I think they're more active than we are, but of course admitting it doesn't suit their mantra.

The Pig who wrote this post is just doing what Pigs do best. Lying for a living.
 
I'm sure that SWFC offered free season tickets to OAP's (or it could have been over 70's or something?) not that many years ago!
 
GrayBlade said:
We don't do anything any different to what the Pigs do/have done regarding free tickets. The Pork have rolled up to my Grandkids schools with free tickets on several occasions, and also left goody bags (which end up in the bin). They've also definitely given tickets to Hallam University. It's not a bad thing, and if anything I think they're more active than we are, but of course admitting it doesn't suit their mantra.

The Pig who wrote this post is just doing what Pigs do best. Lying for a living.
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They've been doing it for years. I could have gone with my football club in the seventies to watch pigs v Gillingham. Obviously even at that age I knew I had no interest in them at all so I didn't. I'd have rather eaten my own shit.
 
BushBlade said:
Three year season tickets are good for those supporters who can afford to lay out three years money up front but it must cause cash flow problems for the club if they spend it in one season. Like a certain club might be doing, gambling that they'll get promoted to the PL.
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I agree Bush, its a big layout of cash for the normal person to stump up.

Glasgow Rangers did a deal when in financial trouble 7 or 8 years ago where they sold a season ticket that covered a few seasons. Their cash flow problems were instantly helped but 2 years later they were in the same position and we all know what happened there.

Bolton will do all they can not to go into administration hoping they go straight back up and with it the cash that will generate.
 
Bladey McBladeface said:
Their Chairman has just come out and said that unless they get £10 million for Clough, he isn't leaving. None of their squad are. If they are losing £800,000 a month and refusing to sell players, I think that that's a disgrace. Sadly, it's the world we live in.

We have to concentrate on our own affairs this season and amass over 90 points. Nobody is going to do us any favours so let's get the job done.
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I think Bolton are still under a transfer embargo, so they won't be able to recruit anyone?
 



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