The "Pigs"

[ekke287]

Now then.

I've done a quick search and can't spot any threads discussing this so my apologies if I've missed it (I'm relatively new).

I wanted to try and get something cleared up, that's essentially been the bane of my life on an almost daily basis since I started a new job in March.

There's a lad at work who's a big Wednesday fan, and aside from the occasional banter he does something that really pisses me off.

He grunts like a pig when I come to see him, and regularly calls me a pig, an oinker, pink and white baconer etc. This all came to a head recently when I told him that although it's a term I never use, Wednesday are actually the pigs, and not united, which stems from the Hillsborough ground being built on old farm land.

This was obviously debunked on the spot, and the counter claim was that Wednesday have always called United "The Pigs" and that we basically started copying them.

I can't seem to find any references online regarding the validity of the Pig Farm theory, only vague references to old posts on the Sheffield Forum where the same debate has been had several times.

So, can anyone clear it up? Who are "The Pigs"? Or is it simply that we both call it each other?

I don't mean to cause any offense in this post, so if any has been taken I apologise.

ekke

 

[I should coco]

So, can anyone clear it up? Who are "The Pigs"?

I can.

They are.

HTH.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Pig farms in Owlerton and butchers aprons.

Those wankers have never had a single original idea except illegal betting and safety certificate evasion.

 

[siblade]

Just smack the fucker next time he does it.

 

[elgoog44]

I suppose "The Pigs" is our alternative to "Them C**Ts"

 

[GrayBlade]

Find a quiet corner and tell the Pig politely that if he abuses you one more time you'll lay one on his snout. There's no reasoning with Pork.

I'll leave it to others to explain why he's wrong.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Threaten to send Esablade in to bore him to death...

 

[HighfieldBlade]

He grunts like a pig...

Say no more. There's your answer.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Remind him that he's a grown man, and that making grunting noises at someone is pathetic.

Failing that - deck him.

 

[Bladesway]

Does anyone have GCB ring tone for a Nokia 3210? Plz Plz

 

[Tyler Durden]

I don't like calling them Pigs. Pigs are very nice animals.
An adult Pig has the cognitive awareness of an average 5 year old child. Also, if kept in the right conditions they are relatively clean creatures and keep a separate space for eating and shitting. Two ways in which they are superior to the average Wednesday fan.

I prefer "scum" or "filth".

 

[The Crab]

I suppose "The Pigs" is our alternative to "Them C**Ts"

I call them Piggy Cunts because I like to have my cake and eat it

 

[The Crab]

Does anyone have GCB ring tone for a Nokia 3210? Plz Plz

Yes, but I'll only give it to you when Michael Brown comes back.

 

[The Crab]

I don't like calling them Pigs. Pigs are very nice animals.
An adult Pig has the cognitive awareness of an average 5 year old child. Also, if kept in the right conditions they are relatively clean creatures and keep a separate space for eating and shitting. Two ways in which they are superior to the average Wednesday fan.

I prefer "scum" or "filth".

Whereas an Adult (what passes for one over there anyway) Pig Fan has the Cognitive Awareness of a Smashed Ape.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

I've got a theory about this.

It originates way back with Edmund Burke & his use of the term "swinish multitude" in the late-1700s. The infuriated working-class response to this notion about the lower orders being seen as animals (to be treated like animals) at a time of revolutionary fervour led to the adoption of the label as a badge of pride within sections of working-class communities (much like the term "nigga" has been in our own age). Sheffield's notoriously radical working-class being fertile ground for this sort of chippy, anti-establishment type of attitude.

I'm thinking it prevailed right through to late-Victorian times and beyond when football (& football supporting) became established.

And that lot over in S6 were said to have openly proclaimed themselves to be "pigs"...

 

[frank drebin]

There are two trains of thought
One team plays in an area that at the time of the teams formation was populated by pig farms

The other says that a red and white kit looks like streaky bacon


When people hear the second part they laugh at the ridiculousness of it

 

[Crouchy]

Wilf Rostron, I believe.

 

[bartman]

Now then.

I've done a quick search and can't spot any threads discussing this so my apologies if I've missed it (I'm relatively new).

I wanted to try and get something cleared up, that's essentially been the bane of my life on an almost daily basis since I started a new job in March.

There's a lad at work who's a big Wednesday fan, and aside from the occasional banter he does something that really pisses me off.

He grunts like a pig when I come to see him, and regularly calls me a pig, an oinker, pink and white baconer etc. This all came to a head recently when I told him that although it's a term I never use, Wednesday are actually the pigs, and not united, which stems from the Hillsborough ground being built on old farm land.

This was obviously debunked on the spot, and the counter claim was that Wednesday have always called United "The Pigs" and that we basically started copying them.

I can't seem to find any references online regarding the validity of the Pig Farm theory, only vague references to old posts on the Sheffield Forum where the same debate has been had several times.

So, can anyone clear it up? Who are "The Pigs"? Or is it simply that we both call it each other?

I don't mean to cause any offense in this post, so if any has been taken I apologise.

ekke

just ignore the piggy fuck face. Don't react at all and never refer to it. This will confuse him, make him look like a thick twat and hopefully his head will explode

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

Porktalk give this version: http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/157264-why-do-the-blades-call-us-pigs-seriously/
Sheffield Forum this (albit Pig, sorry Wednesday bias!): http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=220235
And our very own S24SU forum gave us this debate way back: http://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-original-pigs.18486/

 

[nopigfansintown]

You can't educate pork, so why bother?

 

[Sheffsteel]

Speaking from actual experience.

I was a young boy in the early and mid 70's. I remember around 1975 it was really fashionable for Unitedites to call Wednesday "the Pigs". Can't remember any Wednesday fans calling it us.

I've heard some older fans say the term was never used in the 50's and 60's.

The theory regarding the new Wednesday badge sounds feasible to me.

The Star announced Wednesday's new club badge of an Owl in 1974ish with some Blades commenting that their new badge resembled the outline of a Pig and the insult caught on.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Whereas an Adult (what passes for one over there anyway) Pig Fan has the Cognitive Awareness of a Smashed Ape.

As far I'm aware, there's never been a reported case of a group of pigs battering an innocent man to death outside a Lloyds bar either.
Very little racism in the porcine community either.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Does anyone have GCB ring tone for a Nokia 3210? Plz Plz

 

[BushBlade]

The simple answer is no one knows. We call each other pigs. At the time it first happened there was no internet, no one wrote it down in a diary, no one registered it as a trade mark or tried to copyright it. Someone just called a fan of one of the teams a pig and the response was something like 'tha what? Tha's pig'.

 

[BushBlade]

As far I'm aware, there's never been a reported case of a group of pigs battering an innocent man to death outside a Lloyds bar either.
Very little racism in the porcine community too.

That's not true TD. They have their own PNP and a loathing of scandanavians.

 

[Bill puntin]

just ignore the piggy fuck face. Don't react at all and never refer to it. This will confuse him, make him look like a thick twat and hopefully his head will explode

They call em pigs because their fans are arrogant so that in turn goes to arrogrunt

 

[PandaCola]

My late grandad told me that, in the 20s, the great United team were known as the Mudlarks; because of some big wins in terrible weather conditions. This was the terrible period when we won trophies but didn't have a desso pitch. I am inclined to believe old cotton red and white shirts may have had colours that ran in the wet and turned pink- so affectionately referring to the team who played well in the mud as pigs makes sense to me.

In the modern era- I think the whole "Pigs" as a term of abuse by both sides is pretty pathetic. I support United and find the whole obsession with Wednesday (and vice versa) lame. If you work somewhere with somebody who insists on doing bantz and you don't like it: get a new job or brutally murder the person you work with and your problems will be solved.

 

[BigBed]

Where is it you work pal??

 

[Punk Blade]

The other says that a red and white kit looks like streaky bacon

My response to this theory is to ask:
Do Newcastle fans call Sunderland pigs?
Do Portsmouth fans call Southampton pigs?
Do Port vale fans call Stoke pigs?
Do Plymouth fans call Exeter pigs?

No. No they don't.

 

[mattbianco1]

Porktalk give this version: http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/157264-why-do-the-blades-call-us-pigs-seriously/

That really annoys me reading that.

"I never heard any United fan refer to us as the pigs until the late 90's." -

Lie... I've always known them as pigs, in all my 32 years.

"
It's another copy cat thing they do...it's up there with.

'Hark now hear
United sing
Wednesday ran away
And we will fight forever more
Because of Boxing Day'

Actually hearing them sing this makes me chuckle..".....

Why do THEY need to fight for Boxing Day? They won. We will fight for ever more to avenge that defeat.. How do they not understand that?