Kevin McCabe

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I think that one was very much a two-way street - central government funding tended (and still does) go to Manchester & Leeds as a result of the clashes with central government. St Pancras over the years is a perfect example - almost obliterated and neglected as it 'only' went to Sheffield. But when its redeveloped for Eurotunnel, the Sheffield line gets punted off into a bus stop. All talk of the 'Northern Powerhouse' was centred on Leeds & Manchester, although i think we all know that was just hot air and shite. Then there's HS2 bypassing Sheffield. As if the 'spur' will ever get built (hopefully the whole lot will be shelved in favour of improving the east-west infrastructure). There was a full on european loading gauge mainline from London through Sheffield to Manchester, electrified between the two cities as well. Even Dr Beeching thought that was a line worth keeping.

I've hardly been back to Sheffield since I left in '91. But when I do go back, I realise how much I took for granted whilst growing up. No other city I've visited is such a sea of green on the approaches, with the exception maybe of Sydney. But also no other city has strangled itself quite so much. The city centre always seemed to be 3 separate areas when I was growing up - it was rare to go to the moor, fargate & hole in the road in one trip - usually just one. And the walk from the bus station to Bramall Lane really shows the city at its worst. What a dump it must appear to away fans.

The City council do seem uniquely insular and short sighted. Didn't they spend more on knocking down Don Valley & upgrading Woodburn Rd than it cost to run Don Valley for years? Sheaf Valley was an excellent example - some bright spark built it to imperial size, so it could never be used to host proper stuff. Then got knocked down before the debt had been paid off.

They really should be making more of the City at the heart of the Industrial Revolution, the greenest city in Europe and the only one in the UK with national park within its boundaries. Some of the countryside within the city boundary is up there with the Lake District for beauty. Sheffield's gegraphy probably doesn't help either, being an odd sort of spoked linear layout. We suffer a similar thing on a much smaller scale in Kendal - there's no space to reasonably build necessary infrastructure. And then you get the 50s theme park brigade (Friends Of the Lake District & Kendal Civic Society) here. Can't touch anything, ever. There's 5 road bridges in Kendal, 3 of them 1 way because they're 'ancient' bridges that can't possibly be widened. Except all 3 of them have been widened & rebuilt at least 5 times in the last 200 years. One of them was used for experiments with 'cement fondue' that developed into tarmac.

As for the comparisons with Leeds & Manchester - those places are the tackiest, most superficial hunks of shite imaginable. I suspect the free trade hall will still be standing many years after the new stuff has been pulled down. But it looks pretty for the first 3-5 years. Once the maintenance budget starts going up, those concrete & glass boxes will very quickly look like shit. Bloody hell - I'm sounding like Prince Charles ;-)

After growing up in Sheffield, I was at Bradford Uni for 5 years. Another once great & Beautiful city that was neglected after the collapse of its main industry. Now I see a fair bit of Whitehaven & Barrow. Again, places that have lost the main industries and are VERY neglected. There's some fantastic buildings in those places, but they're falling apart through lack of interest. One thing that strikes me is that its as though the whole community lost confidence. What the answer is I don't know. 'Bradford is Bouncing Back' of course (and has been since the 70s!)
I lived in Hartlepool for a year. That place is just fundamentally shit. I think its only purpose is to make Middlesbrough look good.

Anyone else like to join me on my ramble...:tumbleweed:

..as I implied earlier, Sheffield should just be 'grassed over'...make the most of the green city...national park tourist thing...plant a forest through the city centre, the tourists/students will love it...as would the locals.
 



..as I implied earlier, Sheffield should just be 'grassed over'...make the most of the green city...national park tourist thing...plant a forest through the city centre, the tourists/students will love it...as would the locals.

Better ask Amey if they've got enough in their budget.
 
Yes there have been some awful decisions which, even if he did not take, Kevin McCabe must have sanctioned, namely a series of terrible managerial appointments starting with Robson and ending with Adkins. You could say Clough did OK with the two great cup runs but he was arrogant and his recruitment by and large was very poor and he never looked like achieving his prime target which was to get promotion. It's easy to be wise after the event but the fans (me included) certainly backed his decisions to appoint both Clough and Adkins and neither was a cheap option. Kevin has put loads of money into the club and must have been despondent as each time he thought he had got the right manager it all went wrong.

Hopefully he's feeling a lot better now! Surely CW is the man we've all been searching for since relegation from the PL? Thanks Kevin for propping up the club and sticking with it. Sadly on many occasions on this Forum you get slagged off by some very ignorant people.

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McCabe's problem is less about his managerial appointments, which all at the time seemed admirable (perhaps bar Robson), but more about his asset stripping of the team; from the two Kyles through to Harry and Jamie. That's what put us in this goddam league for six years ...
 
McCabe's problem is less about his managerial appointments, which all at the time seemed admirable (perhaps bar Robson), but more about his asset stripping of the team; from the two Kyles through to Harry and Jamie. That's what put us in this goddam league for six years ...

It's McCabe's cash that's kept this club afloat since we went down to League One.
 
Remember when the Classic was a News Theatre before it became "the Classic". There was a continuous program of news/short films etc and you went in at any time and sat through the program until it got back to the point in the program where you had come in - although you could stay in all day if you wanted. Think that was the early 60's?

Late forties mate. Also. Tom and Gerry cartoons etc
 
McCabe's problem is less about his managerial appointments, which all at the time seemed admirable (perhaps bar Robson), but more about his asset stripping of the team; from the two Kyles through to Harry and Jamie. That's what put us in this goddam league for six years ...

"Asset striping" implies that the proceeds of sale of these players have gone into KM's pocket. The fact is that the club has been living beyond its means since we were relegated from the PL. We have spent big money on transfers e.g. Beattie, Ched Evans and more recently Brayford and Sharp plus more importantly on wages such that our outgoings vastly exceeded our income. We have been paying Championship level wages whilst playing in L1 for the last 6 years. The only way this has been sustainable is by getting some income in from transfers but also by money put into the club by KM and his companies. Get real.
 

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