Billy Sharp

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Why is it that the only defence for Sharp is the same old people harping know about his "20 goals last season"!?
So what, my lad scored 36 and he's only 10!
The fact is he isn't and isn't looking like scoring half as many at the moment! He has started the season badly, fair enough, the rest have too, but it looks to me like Wilder is trying to build a team to push on later in the year or even next season.
Ok were all fed up of being here, but we're not the ones stuck managing these players or the one it falls on when it goes tips up!
Wilder did well last year but his start to the season was a very similar affair, just before Xmas, Northampton were off the pace and not looking like a league winning side, it only took a few months to turn that round!!!
I think we should trust his judge, he won't want to let anyone down, he's one of us afterall!!

and the 142 goals he scored previously !
 

I'm fine with Wilder deciding to have Clarke as the focus but more so if Clarke plays as the top man, not in the deeper role, although if we did have more pace in the team around Clarke then Clarke would look much better. I still really like Leon, I think he is worth making the centre of the attack but that said I would be sad to see Billy leave, he's done us proud and last season kept us from a relegation battle. Totally trust Wilder though, its inevitable that a new manager would shift players on, some we agree with some we dont. When Harry first came in we sold crowd favourite Peter Beagrie and released Colin Morris. That didn't turn out too badly in the end did it and is Wilder most influenced by?
I've supported everything done so far, but right now we look shambolic. I think we've got better players than before, so it's about getting the formation to work. That might involve rowing back on a few changes and doing things more gradually.

Sharp is one of the only recent success stories, and I'd want the confidence of that backup until we've shown progress. If that involves dropping him, then fair enough.

Right now I'm very worried that we'll implode, on and off the field. Despite support from just about everyone, including me, I wonder if we've done too much too soon.

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Billy Sharp to Ipswich Town?

They've just taken Leon Best on trial...

Adam Armstrong available for loan from Newcastle United?

There's an interesting one. Add him to Matty Taylor and Ched Evans on the list of potential signings that would make losing Sharp acceptable.
 
If you're reading this Billy, get yourself a move to the Championship. These fans don't deserve you. A player who dropped down for the club he supports and was the only player who gave 100% last year, week in, week out.

Ode to Billy Blade.

Obsequious Bladey Bollocks.

The fans deserve far better than you have provided or even tried to provide this season, Bladey Bill. Buck your ideas up.
 
I've supported everything done so far, but right now we look shambolic. I think we've got better players than before, so it's about getting the formation to work. That might involve rowing back on a few changes and doing things more gradually.

Sharp is one of the only recent success stories, and I'd want the confidence of that backup until we've shown progress. If that involves dropping him, then fair enough.

Right now I'm very worried that we'll implode, on and off the field. Despite support from just about everyone, including me, I wonder if we've done too much too soon.

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See your point but Wilder had no option but to clear out the dross which were at the end of there contracts and transfer list the rest of the shite . We all new this , wanted it to happen and glad when it did .

I hope we are all fucking idiots , wrong , panicking over nothing and everything .

Wilder in the meantime is doing a league 1 Jose and has total confidence in himself and what he is doing .

Wilder at the moment appears to be a madman who is out of his depth or a genius in the making .

Certainly dividing us , but all of us so desperate for him to succeed .

Awful start , and to say some of his signings cannot cope is all a bit Monty Python.

Billy , Done , Basham , Clarke need to help him not be a side show .

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Sharp, Adams, Brayford and possibly McNulty and/or Done all in the same transfer window. Even for Sheffield United, that is just unbelievable :(

Two big earners who aren't performing, a very raw kid and a couple of nonentities. Petfectly believable and probably necessary given our league position and their collective contribution thereto.
 
See your point but Wilder had no option but to clear out the dross which were at the end of there contracts and transfer list the rest of the shite . We all new this , wanted it to happen and glad when it did .

I hope we are all fucking idiots , wrong , panicking over nothing and everything .

Wilder in the meantime is doing a league 1 Jose and has total confidence in himself and what he is doing .

Wilder at the moment appears to be a madman who is out of his depth or a genius in the making .

Certainly dividing us , but all of us so desperate for him to succeed .

Awful start , and to say some of his signings cannot cope is all a bit Monty Python.

Billy , Done , Basham , Clarke need to help him not be a side show .

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True, but I can't see Sharp and Clark together, and having 2 up top robs one from an already mediocre midfield.

Fine if you bypass it to an athletic forward line (Deane and Agana), but doesn't work with average athletes / runners, as we have.

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Ode to Billy Blade.

Obsequious Bladey Bollocks.

The fans deserve far better than you have provided or even tried to provide this season, Bladey Bill. Buck your ideas up.

Far from it, the only Bladey Bollocks I can see round here is the number of people saying Wilder knows what he's doing simply on the basis that he's a Blade.

I hate the Bladey bollocks. I really do. A player is a player. end of. Their ties are irrelevant.

I agree Billy needs to to pull his socks up, he's had an awful start to the season.
 
True, but I can't see Sharpe and Clark together, and having 2 up top robs one from an already mediocre midfield.

Fine if you bypass it to an athletic forward line (Deane and Agana), but doesn't work with average athletes / runners, as we have.

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Billy on the bench or down the road . Billy and Clarke will never work .

We do need pace as much a another CB .

Hope it's not blind faith with Wilder . Just want a winning formula .

Nowt is ever straight forward .
 

I would rather Utd keep Billy. Ive always liked the lad and think that if his head is in the right place then he can still do a top job for us this season. However if he isnt wanting to be here or wanting to act like the captain that he is supposed to be then move him on. I trust Wilders judgement on this and am fine with the thought that if CW thinks it is for the best...then so be it. Someone previously mentioned that they would prefer to see Wilder go before Billy. I cant disagree more. Wilder gets my support all the way and far more than any player at the lane whether they were ex academy players or not. If Billy stays great, if he goes then best wishes lad and good luck. Lets back the manager for once can we rather than jumping on the poor sods back after 4 frickin games.
 
A mere four games into a season where absolutely nobody has earned their wage yet and playing in a system that doesn't suit his game in the slightest, our top scorer from last season has gone from talismanic hero to somewhere just above child molesters in the periodic table of human scummery.

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Why is it that the only defence for Sharp is the same old people harping know about his "20 goals last season"!?
So what, my lad scored 36 and he's only 10!
The fact is he isn't and isn't looking like scoring half as many at the moment! He has started the season badly, fair enough, the rest have too, but it looks to me like Wilder is trying to build a team to push on later in the year or even next season.
Ok were all fed up of being here, but we're not the ones stuck managing these players or the one it falls on when it goes tips up!
Wilder did well last year but his start to the season was a very similar affair, just before Xmas, Northampton were off the pace and not looking like a league winning side, it only took a few months to turn that round!!!
I think we should trust his judge, he won't want to let anyone down, he's one of us afterall!!

Why are people banging on about a 20 goal season?

Because he's just scored 20+ goals FFS. What the hell is wilder doing as manager If he can't get the best out of a player he has just made captain? This smacks as a desperate move and it seems unlikely we even have a plan for a replacement at this late stage
 
Strange because I remember from school that even while he was at the Rotherham academy he always claimed to be a Blades fan. Wore a Blades shirt on non-uniform day and everything.

Well he was in my year at school and i can 100% guarantee you that his first team was Newcastle most of the way through it. Not saying he didn't follow the Blades aswell but he always claimed to be a Newcastle fan and idolised Shearer
 
Billy is not fast enough to play the system that wilder wants to play.
He and Clark want to play the same role in the team, sharp,can generate a transfer fee and his wage could cover that of three or four incoming players, it goes without saying that from a business point if view it us the correct decision to offload him. If he had proved to be an i valuable member of the team / squad in the first four matches of the season from a footballing point if view he would gave to stay, unfortunately gat has not proved to be the case.
It's all about the sum of the parts, ask Mr Bassett, one for all and all for one!!
 
4 games. Zero G. Zero A.

Assuming fit healthy and able to play 40 + games.

10 goals tops. And way fewer assists. A fat lad off the kop could get close to that with bounces and ricochets off his arse.

Utterley

Totally

Completely

Ineffective

Whereas Sharp has been amazing? I love Billy but if we're going to play one up top I rather Clarke who has more aerial ability, due to his height as well as been a decent finisher. Personally I'd go 3-5-2 and that would keep Billy and Clarke both up top and use Hussey and either Duffy/Freeman on the right wing back.
 
Billy is not fast enough to play the system that wilder wants to play.
He and Clark want to play the same role in the team, sharp,can generate a transfer fee and his wage could cover that of three or four incoming players, it goes without saying that from a business point if view it us the correct decision to offload him. If he had proved to be an i valuable member of the team / squad in the first four matches of the season from a footballing point if view he would gave to stay, unfortunately gat has not proved to be the case.
It's all about the sum of the parts, ask Mr Bassett, one for all and all for one!!

So we are judging on 4 games this season against the 40 odd he played in and scored 20+ goals last year? If we are going on the basis of usefulness this year not one of them has earned a shirt yet.

It's only correct on a business point of view if we can get 3/4 in... Do you seriously believe we can get that over the line? That we have actually identified targets to replace Billy. He's the captain of the side, he must have been in Wilders plans until recently surely??

and judging by the dross we have brought in so far and our inability to add anyone further recently (2 have been due for weeks) I would put my house on it being a downgrade on sharp.

Strikes me as a desperate move to show CW isn't afraid to make BIG decisions... Put your dick away Wilder and actually coach a team to get the maxiumum out of the players at your disposal.
 
No surprise. It will be the treble: Sharp, Long and Done = best part of another mill. for Kev to count when he goes to bed. Wilder gone by the end of October and League 2 next year.
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For fuck's sake
 
Whereas Sharp has been amazing? I love Billy but if we're going to play one up top I rather Clarke who has more aerial ability, due to his height as well as been a decent finisher. Personally I'd go 3-5-2 and that would keep Billy and Clarke both up top and use Hussey and either Duffy/Freeman on the right wing back.

I'd say Billy would be better as the sole striker as he can actually hold the ball up, but there is the issue with height.

I actually thought about wingbacks and it would make a lot of sense if we hadn't reduced the width of the pitch!
 
If CW decides to sell Billy then im ok with that (prefer him to stay if honest). What i would say though is that he should categorically not be sold unless we have already brought in a replacement (or replacements) signed sealed and delivered complete with picture.of the them holding blades scarf above head in front of the kop. No more sell before we bring in. One because when we enquire about a replacement the selling club know we have money and are now desperate to get someone...and two, i can see any money generated by a potential Billy sale disapearing quicker than my widger would if Charlize Theron was akimbo on my bed and lusting after me. Strenghten first before any more outs please Mr Wilder.
 
Well he was in my year at school and i can 100% guarantee you that his first team was Newcastle most of the way through it. Not saying he didn't follow the Blades aswell but he always claimed to be a Newcastle fan and idolised Shearer

Which school was this, because by the time he got to Ecclesfield (where I was in his year and in a few of his classes) I'm sure he was a Blade; he may not have been in primary school, I'm not sure.

Not that any of this is relevant to the ongoing discussion, though I am genuinely curious as I do recall there not being many of us Blades at Ecco and he was definitely one.

Anyway, back to the main point. Fact is, he's a Blade now. If he wasn't, he'd be playing in the league above. Regardless of who he supports, if he's anywhere near on form, he's one of the best two or three forwards in the division.
 
He is playing for sufc as he is on a similar extended contract to the one he had before, a goal bonus and a promotion bonus. Oh and he us a blade
 
Which school was this, because by the time he got to Ecclesfield (where I was in his year and in a few of his classes) I'm sure he was a Blade; he may not have been in primary school, I'm not sure.

Not that any of this is relevant to the ongoing discussion, though I am genuinely curious as I do recall there not being many of us Blades at Ecco and he was definitely one.

Anyway, back to the main point. Fact is, he's a Blade now. If he wasn't, he'd be playing in the league above. Regardless of who he supports, if he's anywhere near on form, he's one of the best two or three forwards in the division.

I agree 100% - someone in the champo would have taken him if he hadn't fancied coming back.

Wilder said before the season started "we had the 2 best strikers in the division in Clarke and Sharp and the best right back in the league in Brayford."

WTF must have gone on for 1 and possible 2 of those top L1 players to have gone...
 

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