CONFIRMED Che Adams

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Good deal for all parties. Good for Brum, they get a promising player. Good for the player because he actually thinks he's Championship class, but I beg to differ and certainly good for us, since we've sold the next Jordan Slew in my opinion. He clearly doesn't want to stay, Wilder's made that clear that he wanted to leave. I'll watch his career with interest, but he can shove his Keep Right On video he's just done where the sun dunt shine!
 

It is a difficult one as it you can look at it a couple of ways.

I agree with many others. He is a player with many attributes to go on and be a fantastic player, even Premier League level BUT he seems to lack a football brain, desire and consistency and that raw pace we saw only a year ago does not seem there anymore?

I think taking a decent sized bid was probably right; he was not even a first team regular here and we need to get out of this division - it is no good taking about what he might be in 2-3 years. I would say he did not improve massively from the start of last season to the end which was a concern but then Adkins seemed to make everyone worse!

I think the problem with the sale is he was still an asset and our second leading scorer. Even with said concerns about his play he would have scored goals and caused problems and helped us.

This is not a concern if we bring in 2 or 3 players in key positions using the funds we have acquired.

However history tells us that is highly unlikely. Maguire and Murphy in recent seasons prove that.

In that sense it is really no different to before isn't it? Adams was still one of our best players and one of few assets. United have sold him. They always sell their best players and never properly replace them.

We will see at the end of August but I don't trust the SUFC board one bit. Never have done. They have made an absolute bollocks of things consistently and would me more surprised if they did go out and spend properly on good quality players to get us out of this league.
 
Usually quite disappointed when we sell anyone, however ime quite pleased this time .
His attitude and form last season was poor in parts when you consider his so called rating .
His positional sense seemed quite poor when played in diffent positions , but that could be due to having blog on. Not professional enough for me, bit of a Big I Am type . Think management have sussed him out straight away. Wilder would know anyway being on the inside. After the training session last week was seen driving about 60mph going towards the railway station swerving all all over and revving with people on the pavements. Another Slew beckons I feel..............Well done United
 
Wait till he fills out. That A38 will not be worth taking if you know he's on his way to training. If he lives in Leicester yo may want to avoid the M 69?
 
The way wilder seems to get most things right you would like to think he has agreed fees for a couple of signings.

Now everyone knows the che money is arriving any fees not already decided will have 20% added on. I don't think wilder will fall for that but also hope he isn't too stubborn to tell the seller to do one.

Went Saturday and we desperately need some pace through the middle and a left sided midfielder.
 
Also we need players that have the right attitude and are excited about the Wilder revolution, not keen on the first move that transpires from the division above. I'm not naive enough to think that they're aren't other players that would leave to join Birmingham and in fairness to Che locality might play a part but there's a time for leaving and in my view like when Murphy left, a player should go in my opinion when he's at the top of his game and ready for the step up to then get in the 1st team of the club he's joining and make the grade. In Che's case, I think the step up is like driving a car up a hill and your car is struggling but then deciding to go up a gear when really you need to stay in a lower gear because the hill you're already on is steep enough. He seems a touch overconfident to me and I think that's why the majority of our fans see through players that talk the talk but don't walk it and it doesn't wash with Sheffield folk. Move along Che and I wonder if he'll say anything complimentary on his twitter account - or just give it the keep right on etc!
 
It will be interesting how he gets on, considering he's moaning about not getting games for us being a reason for leaving.
I hope he does well, especially against the stenching rotting pork.
 
Was it Einstein who defined insanity as repeatedly doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different outcome?

For the statistically minded amongst you I have the following....

Season 2013/14
Sale of Kevin Macdonald to Wolves on 14 August, 1 appearance for the Blades vs Notts County.

Season 2014/15
Sale of Harry Maguire to Hull City on 28 July, 0 appearances for the Blades.

Season 2015/16
Sale of Jamie Murphy to Brighton on 14 August, 1 appearance for the Blades vs Gillingham.

Season 2016/17
Sale of Che Adams to Birmingham on 8 August, 1 appearance for the Blades vs Bolton.

Now, I'm sure the more observant amongst you will have undoubtedly spotted a couple of themes arising from the above - yes it's interesting isn't it.

Coincidence, pre-determined or just plain bad luck?

Oh and one more thing, we're still in the 3rd tier of English football.
 
Here's some half-arsed maths and supposition for you:

We've sold a lad who would have been on relatively low wages and bagged a theoretical £1.5m.

If we replace him with three more experienced players on higher wages, say £200k a year, all on three year contracts, then over the balance of whole piece of business we're hardly cashing-in. If those three players are in the mould of Coutts, Woolford and Sammon, then it's an utter disaster. If those three players take us to promotion inside two years then it's a master stroke.

So to my eyes, Wilder is backing his ability to hire players ahead of Che's ability to become a real player himself. Only history will judge that decision.
 
50/50 on this deal to be honest Che has huge potential but also has huge question mark on his attitude he was never the same player after coming back from training with the young England squad he took to diving (not very well either) for penalties rather than using his strength and going for goal. He also seemed to think he had made it as a footballer and fell into the booze club at the lane clapping weight on and losing a few yards pace in the process. With good guidance he could do well in the game or just as easily find himself back in non league if he goes the other way.
Will Wilder get any of the cash to spend? My guess is not much of it. most will go on paying such as Woolford off as this sale has come a month too late. Most of the good players have already moved on what's left will be the average ones who the clubs desperate for players pay over the odds for .............. we are one of these clubs no doubt about it. If we have accepted less than £2m we have been dry bummed again when you look at what the clubs in the Championship are shelling out for lower league players ................ as ever we sell our talent too late at knock down prices and pay too much for mediocre shite with no pace and little talent to replace them.
Looking very much like same owd same owd ........................... hope I'm wrong but the last five years or so say that is unlikely, I doubt we will be promoted until McCabe fucks off.
 

Until we see how the club and the board respond to this, I'm far from convinced with the club's ambition.

Up front, I'm less concerned as I now expect Done to join Billy and Clarke. But elsewhere we are weaker. Notably the left flank which would have been Done or Che.

Until the board prove otherwise, this has all the potential to be same owd, same owd. It's Brown replaced by Shaw, Murphy with Woolford, Evans with no one, James Beattie with Craig.
I'm more concerned if Done is now the only real alternative on the left flank.....don't rate him much and didn't really think it was Adams best position either, so it's a position that needs addressing along with another central midfield player.
 
I'm a bit on the fence. I remember early last season saying that Adams had all the attributes to become a great all-round striker. He then bagged and okay return relative to the number of starts, but often looked to me like a very average player. Could definitely turn out to be a cracking player but I'm far less disappointed to lose him than I was Murphy or Blackman. I wouldn't exactly be over the moon if I were a Birmingham fan. And not just because I'd have a shit accent.

I'm not sure what Adams' place was with Clarke coming in. Even with him I'd be desperate for another winger.
 
Again every one saying good IF we buy others, why are folk so certain we will?

We never have done in the pAst.

Do we have new ownership I missed, what evidence is there we will reinvest?
 
A handful of very good performances but far too many poor ones. And question marks about his attitude. However, one of very few Blades' players to show any real quality in the last two seasons.

If we spend all the money then fair enough. But of course we won't.
 
If he could use his left leg as well as he can use his left arm he'd be worth £3 mil

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Was it Einstein who defined insanity as repeatedly doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different outcome?

For the statistically minded amongst you I have the following....

Season 2013/14
Sale of Kevin Macdonald to Wolves on 14 August, 1 appearance for the Blades vs Notts County.

Season 2014/15
Sale of Harry Maguire to Hull City on 28 July, 0 appearances for the Blades.

Season 2015/16
Sale of Jamie Murphy to Brighton on 14 August, 1 appearance for the Blades vs Gillingham.

Season 2016/17
Sale of Che Adams to Birmingham on 8 August, 1 appearance for the Blades vs Bolton.

Now, I'm sure the more observant amongst you will have undoubtedly spotted a couple of themes arising from the above - yes it's interesting isn't it.

Coincidence, pre-determined or just plain bad luck?

Oh and one more thing, we're still in the 3rd tier of English football.

I get you where you are coming from and you only have to check this board to see how scathing I was about the sale of Murphy last year but I personally don't think you can put Adams in with those other 3. They were all our best player at the time and a key part of the team. Adams has potential but has been nothing more than average for the most part of his Blades career.

In theory this looks to be a good move for us as we should be able to bring 2 or 3 in with the money we have gained from a player who never really delivered for us. If we don't use the money to do this though then once again we have been fed down the river. The next 3 weeks will show whether this is a good move or not from us.
 
Here's some half-arsed maths and supposition for you:

We've sold a lad who would have been on relatively low wages and bagged a theoretical £1.5m.

If we replace him with three more experienced players on higher wages, say £200k a year, all on three year contracts, then over the balance of whole piece of business we're hardly cashing-in. If those three players are in the mould of Coutts, Woolford and Sammon, then it's an utter disaster. If those three players take us to promotion inside two years then it's a master stroke.

So to my eyes, Wilder is backing his ability to hire players ahead of Che's ability to become a real player himself. Only history will judge that decision.

Didn't he sign a new contract at the beginning of last season. He'll be on decent money.

I expect the replacements to be young loanees, young Championship, young League 1 or League 2. By young, I mean under 25 and their best years ahead of them.
 
This is not good news. The fee isn't enough to make it good news. The only way United can save this is by reinvesting the money very wisely (we have a poor track record of doing so if at all).

If you keep having to sell your best players you will struggle to move forward. By May we will be counting this in the Blackman, Maguire, Murphy category.

I predict Che will score at least 12 goals for Birmingham this season.

How do you know the fee isn't enough as it's undisclosed?
And I don't think Adams is anywhere near good enough yet to be classed as a big loss like the other players were.

I think it speaks volumes that he's moved to Birmingham....yes they are a championship club, but they are also poor relations to the majority of the other teams in that division. It's not like he's signed for Bournemouth or Spurs who allegedly had shown interest.
 
Well this might be OK if:

- we got market value, which we won't have done
- we reinvest in a replacement and other areas of need, which we won't
 
CW .... that's part one of your latest transfer activity completed . Now for part two ..... gerram signed .

I trust CW .
 
I'm a bit on the fence. I remember early last season saying that Adams had all the attributes to become a great all-round striker. He then bagged and okay return relative to the number of starts, but often looked to me like a very average player. Could definitely turn out to be a cracking player but I'm far less disappointed to lose him than I was Murphy or Blackman. I wouldn't exactly be over the moon if I were a Birmingham fan. And not just because I'd have a shit accent.

I'm not sure what Adams' place was with Clarke coming in. Even with him I'd be desperate for another winger.

If I was a Birmingham fan I'd be gutted that we'd spent just about our entire budget on a player who was average in L1 last season.

I'd also be concerned that we only had to pay about £1.7m in today's market for a young English player there's plenty of hype around... it suggests he's not actually that good.
 
I get you where you are coming from and you only have to check this board to see how scathing I was about the sale of Murphy last year but I personally don't think you can put Adams in with those other 3. They were all our best player at the time and a key part of the team. Adams has potential but has been nothing more than average for the most part of his Blades career.

In theory this looks to be a good move for us as we should be able to bring 2 or 3 in with the money we have gained from a player who never really delivered for us. If we don't use the money to do this though then once again we have been fed down the river. The next 3 weeks will show whether this is a good move or not from us.
It will be a first if we invest the fee on new recruits, supporting the existing wage & running costs of the club more likely.
 
We have got to get some pace in this side as losing Che represents losing most of any pace we had in the squad in the first place (which is not a deal anyway).

UTB
 
I get you where you are coming from and you only have to check this board to see how scathing I was about the sale of Murphy last year but I personally don't think you can put Adams in with those other 3. They were all our best player at the time and a key part of the team. Adams has potential but has been nothing more than average for the most part of his Blades career.

In theory this looks to be a good move for us as we should be able to bring 2 or 3 in with the money we have gained from a player who never really delivered for us. If we don't use the money to do this though then once again we have been fed down the river. The next 3 weeks will show whether this is a good move or not from us.
We can bring in 3-4 players but will they all turn out to be good? doubtful I think, every managers signs player who for some reason just don't work out. I agree Che is nowhere close to the level of Murphy or Maguire but he was our only player who could produce something different or unexpected the rest just seem pretty average league one players which for me says it all about the state of the club when Che is our only saleable asset.
 

It will be a first if we invest the fee on new recruits, supporting the existing wage & running costs of the club more likely.

I've already been informed there will be AT LEAST 3 coming in before the weekend .

Time will tell I suppose . But this season already feels different in the way the manager is allowed to do business .
 

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